Straight gay scorts

[+ purplekow]

I have sex with men these days. There was a time in my life that I had sex exclusively with women. When I hire, I assume that the sexually attractive and sexually open men I hire have the opportunity to have sex with both men and women should they so desire. Who they have sex with when I am not around is really none of my concern. My guess is that an overweight man in his 60s is not their first choice and so money makes that whirl go round. As long as the person I hire is present, pleasant, passionate and playful with me, where he takes those talents at other times has no influence on me.

All that being said, I do enjoy hearing about the sexual adventures of my partners as foreplay or at half time of a double header. In that situation, I prefer to hear about men on men encounters, but threeways, fourways, moreways and heterosexual encounters can be just as exhilarating.

[BtmBearDad]

it's 2021 and even in the sex trade there is discrimination for sexual orientation

 

It’s no more discriminatory than wanting to spend your money at a gay owned business, or a black owned business, or an independent business vs a corporation, or to donating to certain charities vs others. To put it more succinctly, it is not discrimination.

 

In fact, it's more likely that a straight or bisexual provider will be more masculine than a gay one.

 

I would have to disagree with you on this stereotype. This just plays into the trope that gay men can’t be masculine, and that men acting gay must be overly feminine to be convincing. Just look at the overwhelming majority of films, and TV shows with gay characters. Even in the rare instances when there is a masculine/butch gay character, he’s derided by other gays, and doubted by non-gays until he “flames out”.

 

I’ll take a man -provider or not- confident in his own masculinity, in his attraction to other men over a g4p provider in need of his blue pill, and pussyporn to get it up any day.

[KrisParr]

Nearly 100 five-star reviews, he’s the very best I’ve had the pleasure of hiring. Incredible. “98% straight”

 

https://rent.men/LiamV/

[+ DrownedBoy]

Support your gay providers ?️‍?

 

Agreed. Kissing is important to me, but I've had a self-described straight guy refuse to kiss after I specifically ask if it's okay beforehand. Not fun.

 

Personally, I believe gays who chase after straight men have issues they haven't sorted out yet. And that self-described straights who _do_ kiss and bottom are really bi - they're just catering to this audience. Either way, it's a scene I prefer to avoid.

[Gymowner]

getting paid when rent is due to get a blowjob or even fuck doesnt change ones sexuality. putting ones pants on on a saturday night and determining what bar ones wants to go to (straight or gay) to get laid by someone that the person is sexually hot for (free of the money equation) is ones sexual desire. now comes in the "ality" part of the equation. it has more to do with the mental side of the person. who one wants to mate with, fall in love with, spend years with in a relationship etc. sex can be and is just that... sex.

 

i have known guys that claim they are "bisexual". when it boils down to it they really just can perform in front of a camera doing a sexual act or with a client for the money. all of them when asked stated they dated women exclusively. imho they are just heterosexuals with a high need to get off and a higher need to get money. the money is the key factor or motivator in this example. a man that can and has had sex with both men and women (as i stated going out on a saturday night free of any outside influences) yet dates exclusively and is emotional only to women and has no mental desire towards men is a bisexed heterosexual... a man that gets married to a woman, has children then comes out late in life knowing that he got married for the wrong reasons in the first place... pressures and norms from their family, society etc yet their true feelings and emotions are with men would be imho a bisexed homosexual. a man that has had sex with both men and women and has dated with inner feelings for both men and women would be a bisexed bisexual.

 

most of the "straight" guys that we are discussing here are being influenced by an outer source. the need for money. they are imho just heterosexual men with a high libido and need for cash. turn it around. if it was a gay escort in this example then he would be a homosexual with a high libido and a need for cash. its not a bad thing at all. we all do this everyday going to our jobs. some love our jobs... some hate our jobs. but at the end of the day it is just that.... a job. getting paid to perform an act or service. so some straight escorts can be terrible at their job of escorting (hate it) or really really good at their job of escorting (think Zeb Atlas). no different than any other person or any other job.

 

Actually Zeb would be a perfect person to pass my explanation along to and see if he agrees with it. my feelings are that if he has only had sex with men either on screen for money and/or with a client for money, has dated and feelings only for women, married with children etc then he is just a heterosexual man that was and is terrific at his job with no innate feelings at all for men. if on the other hand he has had sex with men "freely with no monetary or external persuasion" and only had feelings for women then he is a bisexed heterosexual. if he had sex "freely" with both men and women, has had feelings enough to want to date and fall in love with both men and women then he is a bisexed bisexual.

 

now some will get on here and crow "but sexuality is just fluid". sex can be just fluid but we all do things in life with motivations behind those actions. "ality" is not quite that fluid. we are pretty much born with our innate feelings and desires. i think many many more men would have experimented with sex with other men if there werent so hung up on being told "sex is fluid" and not understanding themselves in the bigger picture of "sexuality is fluid". lets face it, many "straight" guys are scared to death that "getting it on" with another dude would make them gay. we have all heard this so get over it already.

 

by being able to compartmentalize ones feelings, self worth, expressions and one understanding them can and does allow men to just take a step back and realize that sex can be just sex and damn fun! labelling is important. i know that sounds counter to our fucked up society today but think of a psychiatrist. they compartmentalize people all day long to try to help the person understand themselves and to alleviate their issues. i have on at least 3 separate occasions explained this to "straight" men, they think for a second, get a smile on their face and then start asking more and more questions about.. in their words "whats gay sex like"? i dont need to explain what happened next!!!

Edited May 8, 2021 by Gymowner

[MscleLovr]

I don’t care how a guy defines himself. I only care about what he’ll do with and for me in private.

 

As others have mentioned, I enjoy a man who kisses deeply and passionately. And my ideal hire is a muscleboy who‘s ready to bottom for me and suck me off to completion.

 

The closest I’ve had to a “straight” man was a rather handsome and well-muscled personal trainer in Australia. We connected via a mutual friend, met for drinks and he suggested we go to my hotel room for “some privacy”… He did all that I like and after I gave him his money, he went home to his pretty girlfriend and a young baby.

[+ Axiom2001]

My "go-to guy" in San Francisco identifies as bi. He claims to be married and has a young son. But, he is one hell of a deep kisser; he fucks like a thoroughbred and gives one all that he has and then some; he loves to be rimmed as well as take fingers up his tight ass.

 

The only thing that bothers me about him is that he doesn't suck or get fucked himself. But he's personable and definitely knows how to entertain his male partners, for each time that we've been together, the play sessions have gotten better and better.

 

The last time that I saw my hot LatinX was in February of 2020. Within a few weeks, I plan to contact him to inquire about his vaccination status. If he's gotten one of the vaccines and has proof, I plan to reunite in some very missed play.

[EZEtoGRU]

In fact, it's more likely that a straight or bisexual provider will be more masculine than a gay one.

This.

 

As far back as I can remember, I have been attracted to masculinity. That attribute is the first thing about a guy that attracts my attention....and the lack of a guy being masculine is a deal-breaker for me. If a guy is not uber masculine, nothing else really matters. He can be the most handsome, have the most ripped body, or have the most glorious cock but unless he is truly masculine, I will have zero interest.

 

I end up pretty consistently being attracted to straight or bi guys. It's very rare that in a hiring scenario I end up with a gay guy....and the lack of real masculinity is the reason why. I totally concur with the highlighted quote above. And like lonely_john, I consider it to be a fact.

[Phil_musc]

i dont need to explain what happened next!!!

No, you don't "need" to explain what happened next, but I'll bet there is more than one reader here who would like to hear just what DID happen next! I count myself as one of those readers.

[+ DynamicUno]

If the escort is engaged and responsive while we're together then I don't usually care who he prefers to sleep with on his own time. I don't normally go looking for straight guys, I prefer to engage with guys who advertise as gay or bi. I've been with some guys who later mentioned having a girlfriend, but if we had a good time together it didn't bother me as long he didn't dwell on the topic. I'm much more likely to rehire a guy who is present and fun to be with but has a girlfriend than a gay guy who is a lump in the sack.

[lonely_john]

Thanks for the dialogue @BtmBearDad

it is not discrimination.

I think I forgot to place a LOL or "Sarcasm Alert" in my comment about straight male escorts being discriminated against by gay clients.

overwhelming majority of films, and TV shows with gay characters.

I think the show biz is, for multiple reasons, not the best context to talk about gay representation.

Edited May 8, 2021 by lonely_john

[markeramzn]

I don't know folks ages on the form, but another thing to take into consideration is that Gen Z and Millennials are identifying as LGBTQ or are much more fluid in their sexuality than Gen X and prior. I live in an area 2.5+ hours from any major city. Population here is 45,000. College town, and the enrollment is around 13,000. I can't ever recall finding an escort on any site in the past 20 years in this area. I just turned 50.

 

The last four guys I have had an ongoing sexual relationship with for the past 10-15 years have all been straight, and in their late 20's and early 30's. The reason they seek me out are varied, but are generally multiples of the following:

• The girlfriend/wife won't do oral sex
  
• They have split from a girlfriend/wife and are frustrated with the relationship dynamic for male/female, but want some sex
  
• They want to do anal sex, and their partner isn't into it
  
• They work an opposite shift from their partner
  
• They can be a bit more rough or do what they want, without an expectation of what the other person wants
  
• The have kid(s) don't want more, and I'm not able to get pregnant
  
• Since I'm 15-25 years older than them, they don't worry about me bragging to someone they may know about us having sex
  
• They know I'm not looking to date them
  
• It's a convenience - when they are horny, I'm not likely to tell them know, where a spouse/partner might/does
  

I'm sure there could be a couple of other reasons. But never any kissing, they don't give oral or receive anal, and they don't have to worry about making sure I get off. For one it is also a nice escape from his family. We drink a little from time to time, talk about life and baseball, and other things his now ex-gf would get mad at him for talking about, such as participating in tough-man/MMA competitions.

 

I have started getting some straight/bi college guys ask me about getting together, but I have generally stuck to my regular straight. The younger ones tend to flake about 40% of the time, and they seem a bit more socially awkward to me.

 

So for me the plus is I don't have to pay for the straight guys I see. When I want to hire (maybe once every 5 years or less) it is more for an experience such as kissing and more sexual contact than what I normally get from my couple of regulars.

 

To make a long story short, while it may be for the money for the straight escorts, it may also be about just getting to have sex without expectations that came with sex with someone from another gender.

[BtmBearDad]

Always enjoy a good dialogue, @lonely_john ??

 

Apologies for not picking up at the sarcasm - I suppose I’ve gotten too used to some people saying “X” is an example of discrimination when in fact it isn’t at all. But now, I see how you meant it - a sarcastic bit of irony ?

 

 

I think the show biz is, for multiple reasons, not the best context to talk about gay representation.

 

I agree with you in that neither really offer a true representation of gay men - which is kind of the point. I’m 50, so growing up who did I see representing gay men on TV? Paul Lynde, Charles Nelson Reilly, Jonathan Harris - hardly what one would ever describe as examples of masculinity. But who were? Tom Wopat, John Schnieder, David Soul, Tom Sellek, Paul Glaser, etc.. As a result I think many in the 50+ cohort maintain these outdated, and just plain wrong perceptions of who cannd who cannot be deemed “masculine”.

 

This is what I think has skewed so many of our perceptions about gay men - gay men can’t be masculine, only a straight man can really be masculine. That kind of ignorance just annoys me.

[lonely_john]

gay men can’t be masculine, only a straight man can really be masculine. That kind of ignorance just annoys me.

While I will agree with you that it can be considered an outdated view, my comment came purely from empiric experience.

The vast majority of masculine guys I've met inside and outside of the bedroom identified as bisexual or straight. The gays, not so much.

What is considered masculine behaviour for me might be different from what other people think. In any case, I stand by my words.

[MscleLovr]

The one problem, if you like to have sex with ‘straight’ men, that I can foresee is that you’d have to be very explicit and specific in what you want to do/have done to you.

 

I know what I enjoy in bed and I used to say “it’s a menu, not a checklist” as there is a range of things I enjoy. But with a man who identifies as ‘straight’, it would have to be a checklist to avoid disappointment and a poor experience.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

gay men can’t be masculine, only a straight man can really be masculine. That kind of ignorance just annoys me.

 

Agreed, it's complete bullshit.

[marylander1940]

This.

 

As far back as I can remember, I have been attracted to masculinity. That attribute is the first thing about a guy that attracts my attention....and the lack of a guy being masculine is a deal-breaker for me. If a guy is not uber masculine, nothing else really matters. He can be the most handsome, have the most ripped body, or have the most glorious cock but unless he is truly masculine, I will have zero interest.

 

I end up pretty consistently being attracted to straight or bi guys. It's very rare that in a hiring scenario I end up with a gay guy....and the lack of real masculinity is the reason why. I totally concur with the highlighted quote above. And like lonely_john, I consider it to be a fact.

 

Didn't you say 95% of guys doing gay porno weren't masculine enough to you?

[marylander1940]

In fact, it's more likely that a straight or bisexual provider will be more masculine than a gay one.

 

I'm surprised there's no firing squad directed at you yet for such close minded comment ?

[Quincy_7]

In my view, part of the reason twinks get such a bad rap is that they're the ones who give the impression that the gays are all flamboyant drama queens. I've met over 20 providers and only 4 stick out to me as being effeminate and identifiable as gay just by looking at them. The overwhelming majority were very masculine men and that was a key part of what made my time with them so enjoyable.

 

Most gay men are not of the James Charles mould.

[lonely_john]

I'm surprised there's no firing squad directed at you yet for such close minded comment ?

Under the new administration, it feels like we are living in different times.

Not to say that I haven't met very masculine and reliable gay providers.

But when most people have had a similar experience it's hard to disagree.

Edited May 9, 2021 by lonely_john

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

When most people have had a similar experience it's hard to disagree.

 

Never confuse silence with agreement

[lonely_john]

Never confuse silence with agreement

Well at least now nobody is running to cover my mouth when I want to talk about my personal experience. ?‍♂️

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Well at least now nobody is running to cover my mouth when I want to talk about my personal experience. ?‍♂️

 

Why am I mildly turned-on by your last statement?

 

I believe I'm now working this whole thread into the Fetish Forum.

[+ WilliamM]

While I will agree with you that it can be considered an outdated view, my comment came purely from empiric experience.

The vast majority of masculine guys I've met inside and outside of the bedroom identified as bisexual or straight. The gays, not so much.

What is considered masculine behaviour for me might be different from what other people think. In any case, I stand by my words.

Certainly different from my experience hiring at Rounds, a long gone bar in New York. And hiring in Berlin and especially Sydney, Australia.

[realeasymoney]

I always sought out the old fashioned hustler bars for Str8 trade companionship.

This is what I miss the most.