rvwnsd Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 In fact, it's more likely that a straight or bisexual provider will be more masculine than a gay one. This is not a universal truth. ...My best experiences have been with providers who identify as bisexual or straight.... That's more like it - in your experience. ...They are more serious, reliable, and tend to keep their word about what was agreed. I think truly straight guys won't blackmail because they have zero interest in their side gig being known. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about the majority of my experiences with gay providers. Straight and bisexual also care a lot less about who you are and what you look like as a client. There are gay providers who will be upfront saying they won't see clients of certain age, physique, or race. Take a gander at posts made in this forum and you will see comments about all of the above being done by escorts who list themselves as being straight or bisexual. I'm surprised there's no firing squad directed at you yet for such close minded comment ? Perhaps members of the Forum have matured or have realized the pain associated with banging one's head against the wall is not worth the feeling of relief one gets when one stops. Alternatively, they might be on holiday. MikeBiDude, + Axiom2001, + WilliamM and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
former lurker Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 In fact, it's more likely that a straight or bisexual provider will be more masculine than a gay one. Now you're forum name makes sense. + Axiom2001, + BenjaminNicholas, rvwnsd and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyrex Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I'm okay with straight as long as he full fills the fantasy and for the hour he is mine to do with as I please. He also has to convince me he's enjoying our time together, no matter how hard I'm banging him. GeoMitch and lonely_john 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I'm okay with straight as long as he full fills the fantasy and for the hour he is mine to do with as I please. He also has to convince me he's enjoying our time together, no matter how hard I'm banging him. I am fine with trying hard to enjoy while I am banging him. MikeBiDude and lonely_john 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studchaser Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) I'm one of those guys whose introduction to same-sex sex was with a few close str8 hyperalpha friends in high school and college. They have always been the standard for my same sex attractions. Whether it's physical or psychological, that's been my attraction since mid teens. My bar life is probably over, but I always sought out the old fashioned hustler bars for Str8 trade companionship. Most of these guys online who list themselves as Str8 may or may not actually be Str8, but it's one thing that catches my eye. This. You and I may be exceptions but for me nothing will ever meet the bar of straight men. NOTHING!!!!!!!! Every gay man tends to request masculinity and every provider claims masculinity. With straight men thode prelims are reduntant. Straight men also have a more visceral innate take on masculinity. If you go back to the capt of football team, champion wrestler, friends brother fixing cars shirtless, the landscape guy who takes off shirt and comes into the house glidtening needing a glass of water. I cant function outside of those fantasies so for me i deal exclusively with straight men. If you are respectful and not bossy/pushy you will get far more often than you thinkmBut its a skill and not many hqve the patience it takes. Edited May 11, 2021 by studchaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studchaser Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) Sexuality is also a spectrum and there are varying degrees of "straightness". My best experiences have been with providers who identify as bisexual or straight. They are more serious, reliable, and tend to keep their word about what was agreed. I think truly straight guys won't blackmail because they have zero interest in their side gig being known. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about the majority of my experiences with gay providers. Straight and bisexual also care a lot less about who you are and what you look like as a client. There are gay providers who will be upfront saying they won't see clients of certain age, physique, or race. This. This.this. Say you are a senator or sultan. There is noooo waaaay in hell I am hiring a gay guy who willblab in his tell all book when his off broadway gigs dry up. Id rather shower some blue collar construction worker in some small bum fuk town who has a baby on the way and maybe not a clean recotd so jobs arent as easy to come by. The beauty for all who prefer gay men is you wont have me taking up any of your providers slots. Edited May 11, 2021 by studchaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 The self-loathing in this thread is palpable pubic_assistance, Islesguy, marylander1940 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 This. This.this. Say you are a senator or sultan. There is noooo waaaay in hell I am hiring a gay guy who willblab in his tell all book when his off broadway gigs dry up. Id rather shower some blue collar construction worker in some small bum fuk town who has a baby on the way and maybe not a clean recotd so jobs arent as easy to come by. The beauty for all who prefer gay men is you wont have me taking up any of your providers slots. "when his Off-Broadway gigs dry up" Earth to @studchaser why do you assume Broadway actors are all gay? + BenjaminNicholas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyte2019 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 The self-loathing in this thread is palpable For the record, I have gay male friends whom I adore. And I am very comfortable being around gay men of all stripes-masculine, effeminate, bitchy queen, redneck, preppy, young, old. And I am comfortable being myself (whatever that is) around straight and gay friends alike. It's just that sexually, straight men (nowadays much younger) typically have what attracts me. And gay men typically don't, though there are certainly young gay guys I'd like to date. LoadsOfun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyte2019 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 For the record, I have gay male friends whom I adore. And I am very comfortable being around gay men of all stripes-masculine, effeminate, bitchy queen, redneck, preppy, young, old. And I am comfortable being myself (whatever that is) around straight and gay friends alike. It's just that sexually, straight men (nowadays much younger) typically have what attracts me. And gay men typically don't, though there are certainly young gay guys I'd like to date. Oh God, I read this, and it sounds a bit too "all my best friends are gay men". ? + DrownedBoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) For the record, I have gay male friends whom I adore. Is this the gay equivalent to 'BUT SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE BLACK!' (I kid, I kid) Yes, gay men can be out, proud and masculine. It's not the Will & Grace stereotype, but it's more than possible. The problem is that some people on this thread see just the stereotype as the norm and can't think in multiple shades of gay. Edited May 11, 2021 by Benjamin_Nicholas mike carey, Luv2play, + WilliamM and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 The self-loathing in this thread is palpable you nailed it again! Who's the most masculinest here? width=515pxhttps://media.tenor.com/images/86ce5cd9bbfc2565d57a1a5a30d4c550/tenor.gif[/img] DruJac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyte2019 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 you nailed it again! Who's the most masculinest here? width=515pxhttps://media.tenor.com/images/86ce5cd9bbfc2565d57a1a5a30d4c550/tenor.gif[/img] The one with the biggest dick, of course.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 that's always implied, kind Sir! Perhaps by you! But not everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studchaser Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 "when his Off-Broadway gigs dry up" Earth to @studchaser why do you assume Broadway actors are all gay? I didnt say that. Not all male hairdressers who can highlight and flat iron are either but you know..... lonely_john 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyleham Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 It's really all about the connection. I was with a guy who is now engaged to a woman and was dating her the same time we were together. ( I didn't know that at the time, not that it would have made much of a difference). He never identified as bi considered himself straight. I didn't care as we had an incredible connection filled with passion, lust and sensuality. What we did most "straight" guys wouldn't do and he enjoyed it big time! Probably some of the best sex of my life. It didn't hurt that he was hot AF with the most incredible body! lonely_john 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becket Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 The two words straight and gay are more and more meaningless in ordinary life. How much more so on a site like this! The anonymity of this site allows all sorts and conditions of men and women to have a forum to vent....er, discuss their views. "We get all kinds......." says the wisest man. Orientation, then, is kinda like opinions. And opinions are like a** h***s. Everybody has got one. And I think mine (or yours) is the only one that doesn't "emit noxious odors." DMICS, lonely_john and ericwinters 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZEtoGRU Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 The self-loathing in this thread is palpable How odd. I just re-read the entire thread and I don't detect a hint of self-loathing from any poster. I note that people have personal preferences, likes, & dislikes. So what? Why are you so offended by this? Why must we all acquiesce to what your vision of masculinity is? EastbayMike, pubic_assistance, Leyte2019 and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Escorts who identify as "straight" but market to gay men are primarily gay or bi guys who market to men who idolized those hot straight boys back in college and wish they would have had a chance with them. A small percentage are lazy gay4pay con artists who use their str8 status to do as little as possible for your money. HoseMaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffster Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 10:18 AM, EZEtoGRU said: How odd. I just re-read the entire thread and I don't detect a hint of self-loathing from any poster. I note that people have personal preferences, likes, & dislikes. So what? Why are you so offended by this? Why must we all acquiesce to what your vision of masculinity is? The self-loathing is obvious when you have a poster saying things along the lines of “all gay men are less masculine than straight or bisexual men.” This “all or nothing” mentality often results from objectifying masculine men who don’t share one’s “dirty little secret” when they’re young. Speaking for myself, I’m what most gay men would call (sometimes derisively) as alpha male, hyper-masculine. (That doesn’t mean I don’t like to “flip the script” behind closed doors and give someone else the control sometimes). I know plenty of metrosexual-type guys who are avowedly straight, and have had more than my share of bromances with straight guys. When I go to a party where I’m not known, people always ask if I’m military or a cop. Frankly,I could care less because I am what I am, but for someone to just generalize that straight or bisexual men are intrinsically more masculine than the whole of the gay male population...and the disdain for the gay community that such an opinion often hides...does, absolutely, belie some kind of self-loathing. It’s not an act for me, it’s who I am. It’s who I grew up to be. Redwine56 and john1973 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisParr Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Our interests change over time, I think. When I first started hiring, I sought guys my own age and mostly went after the available ones in my area. Didn’t matter if they identified as gay or straight or even identified period. 25+ years later, I definitely have specific qualities, styles and characteristics in mind. Could be that I have more $$ to spend and can be more selective. Now that life is somewhat normal again, my “to do” list is ever-growing. Finally time to give my right arm a rest. Redwine56, john1973 and HoseMaster 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMWbird Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 I have met Sherman Maus. I believe he really enjoys helping men develope, explore and fulfil their deepest fantasies. He was great for me. Really help me learn more about my desires. Can’t wait to get together with him again. + IronMaus and + keroscenefire 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colton Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 4:05 PM, studchaser said: I think truly straight guys won't blackmail because they have zero interest in their side gig being known. Is blackmail a real issue that people have experienced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 17 hours ago, PMWbird said: I have met Sherman Maus. I believe he really enjoys helping men develope, explore and fulfil their deepest fantasies. He was great for me. Really help me learn more about my desires. Can’t wait to get together with him again. I have met him too, although not in the biblical sense. Your description sounds just like the man I met. + keroscenefire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZEtoGRU Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 On 5/30/2021 at 1:25 AM, Jeffster said: The self-loathing is obvious when you have a poster saying things along the lines of “all gay men are less masculine than straight or bisexual men.” I don't think anyone said what you quoted so the legitimacy of your whole thought process falls apart. But let's pretend someone made the exact statement you quoted. How do you go from that to claiming the person is exhibiting self-loathing? That is a huge leap IMHO. People have opinions. You can agree or not. That is fine. I personally believe most gay men are less masculine than straight guys. It is my opinion and I believe it to be true. You can agree or not. I really don't care. You are allowed to believe what you choose. Walt and BSR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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