"Do not waste my time" in an ad

[Smurof]

Providing that pleasantry would be detrimental for perspective new clients, am I correct?

 

I'm seeing more ads nowadays that are defensive and off-putting right out of the gate. Plus, when you're flipping me off with two hands, and vaping at the same time, who is your target audience?

 

It tempts me to make a cable tv series called "Hires From Hell (or nearby regions)".

[cmennow]

I find that it is popping up more in guys ads that are new to the profession and have no reviews. Wreaks of a scam to me honestly. My thought is they will be a time waster or quick to get to you and take your for your money.

[rvwnsd]

...Plus, when you're flipping me off with two hands, and vaping at the same time, who is your target audience?...

They are neither savvy enough to think about that nor are they bright enough to look at ads from well-established escorts and pattern themselves against them. It isn't an age thing, either. There are guys in their 20's and early 30's who have perfectly decent ads and pics that cast them in a positive light and guys in their 40's who flip the bird and act like assholes. And I do not mean the type of asshole I like to eat.

[Despardo]

Providing that pleasantry would be detrimental for perspective new clients, am I correct?

 

I'm seeing more ads nowadays that are defensive and off-putting right out of the gate. Plus, when you're flipping me off with two hands, and vaping at the same time, who is your target audience?

 

It tempts me to make a cable tv series called "Hires From Hell (or nearby regions)".

I always feel that "do not waste my time" and other off-putting comments have no place in any kind of ad. The purpose of an ad is to attract a client. If that client is not for you, you can vet them after making contact.

[dbar123]

When I see that line copy in an ad, I always respect their wishes and move on to someone else.

[+ nycman]

When’s the last time you walked into a successful business....and they greeted you with....“don’t waste my time”?

[+ Lucky]

When I ran a small business, people often wasted my time with inquiries that were not serious.

[+ poolboy48220]

Not to mention it's about as effective as the signs in office kitchens saying "If you finish the pot make another". the time wasters will waste your time no matter what you tell them.

[MrMattBig]

Tone is everything. The need and desire to deter "un-client" contact is warranted and necessary. However I do agree with the sentiment here. "Do not waste my time" reads to me as someone who may be amateur, not serious about escorting, a flake/time waster themselves, picky, ala carte pricing, rough around the edges, or any combination of similar.

 

Serious inquiries only reads and lands better.

[HotWhiteThirties]

My thoughts are the "don't waste my time" could have the opposite effect. I wouldn't think time wasters really care, pay attention, or have the self-awareness to be deterred by such a statement. However, it seems it would actually deter sincere interests. Aside from giving the escort/provider the perceived license to go off on anyone who approaches them who they judge as annoying, I don't see much value in it when it's stated this particular way. Of course, there are better ways to say it which might garner respect from those who the provider might appreciate serving.

[Islesguy]

When I ran a small business, people often wasted my time with inquiries that were not serious.

Every business has idiots that come in with ridiculous requests. I have had people come into my store to buy three jelly beans, literally three jelly beans. We sell them by weight. You put on a smile and hope they never come back lol

[+ azdr0710]

Every business has idiots that come in with ridiculous requests. I have had people come into my store to buy three jelly beans, literally three jelly beans. We sell them by weight. You put on a smile and hope they never come back lol

 

did the three jelly beans not even register a weight and you had to give it to them for free???........jeez, that'd drive me nuts........

 

[Islesguy]

did the three jelly beans not even register a weight and you had to give it to them for free???........jeez, that'd drive me nuts........

 

It comes out to .01lbs actually. I ring that up.

[Redwine56]

did the three jelly beans not even register a weight and you had to give it to them for free???........jeez, that'd drive me nuts........

 

Oh my!! This one gave me a chuckle. Why was the fingerprint guy attempting to climb up on the table and then gets bashed over the head with a metal chair? Was he attempting to take toe prints?

[marylander1940]

Dealing with potential clients who are timewasters is part of most business activities. I would tell escorts to be patient but not naïve

 

My thoughts are the "don't waste my time" could have the opposite effect. I wouldn't think time wasters really care, pay attention, or have the self-awareness to be deterred by such a statement. However, it seems it would actually deter sincere interests. Aside from giving the escort/provider the perceived license to go off on anyone who approaches them who they judge as annoying, I don't see much value in it when it's stated this particular way. Of course, there are better ways to say it which might garner respect from those who the provider might appreciate serving.

 

Agreed, some might feel empowered and bother him on purpose. Unfortunately burner apps have empowered them to remain anonymous.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

Providing that pleasantry would be detrimental for perspective new clients, am I correct?

 

I'm seeing more ads nowadays that are defensive and off-putting right out of the gate. Plus, when you're flipping me off with two hands, and vaping at the same time, who is your target audience?

 

It tempts me to make a cable tv series called "Hires From Hell (or nearby regions)".

 

But you also have to understand what kind of era we are living in right now. Before we call out the guys who say, “don’t waste my time”, let’s try to understand what is currently happening and why this might be the case:

 

1. Rates haven’t been allowed in ads since Trump’s Sesta/Fosta Bill circa 2016.

 

2. Grindr and other apps that foster conveyor belt style sex has become the norm

 

3. Likes ?? is how people get to express they are attracted to someone.

 

4. The word “escort” has been removed from just about every site in America.

 

5. There’s no guidelines from websites like there were back in early 2000s about how to be a reputable escort. If someone browses hard enough, they may come across blogs like @David-SF who has volunteered to share their experiences.

 

6. There’s not much of any in the way of resources for clients to arrange visits with providers.

 

7. Many guys don’t take the business seriously, or see it for the purpose of making money. Not for the purpose of freedom or having a genuine liking for what sex work is truly about.

 

8. it’s 2021 and prostitution still has not been declared legal and decriminalized in all 50 states.

 

 

I’m sure there are more reasoning to back it, but when you add it all up: it makes sense that this isn’t simply like “other small businesses” like someone said. We are living in oppression. Nothing is being geared in our favor right now. There’s no direction. Everyone is left to their own devices.

 

On the bright side, it’s still possible to be successful and do good in the biz. And you don’t have to come off aggressive or off putting. I mean, I struggled with that myself. Sometimes still do. But not as much. I have ways of doing things that are very automated and kind of avoid too much of the riff raff, but some still slide.

 

But let’s not pretend like some people out there don’t like to waste sex worker’s time as a hobby. They’re always browsing the sites, always looking for the next one to pop up, and bullshit them. That’s facts. But escorts should make sure a timewasting client does not continuously get to waste their or other’s time.

 

I have one right now who’s been on my line for the past couple weeks or so. Apparently there was supposed to be an appointment tonight. No word. After this, all I’m going to do is send him my cancellation/rebook fee request...then nothing else. If and when I see the funds in my account, then I’ll talk. But after today, he’s cut.

Edited April 16, 2021 by Jarrod_Uncut

[dbar123]

When I ran a small business, people often wasted my time with inquiries that were not serious.

I've spent the last 10+ years in sales and marketing. Answering inquiries that go nowhere are just part of the job. If you've ever had to man a booth at a trade show, it is the ultimate tire kicking exercise but it's part of the gig. It always surprised me how many customers would contact me 3-5 years later from a brief trade show visit....because they suddenly had money to buy a significant piece of capital equipment.

 

Even if the prospective client goes nowhere with you, they are likely to have friends who might be interested in you. You just never know.

 

If customers are asking you the same stupid questions over and over, then it may be a sign that you need to add more content to your ad to answer these questions. For example, It astounds me when I have to ask if the escort can host and I get no response back.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

I've spent the last 10+ years in sales and marketing. Answering inquiries that go nowhere are just part of the job. If you've ever had to man a booth at a trade show, it is the ultimate tire kicking exercise but it's part of the gig. It always surprised me how many customers would contact me 3-5 years later from a brief trade show visit....because they suddenly had money to buy a significant piece of capital equipment.

 

Even if the prospective client goes nowhere with you, they are likely to have friends who might be interested in you. You just never know.

 

If customers are asking you the same stupid questions over and over, then it may be a sign that you need to add more content to your ad to answer these questions. For example, It astounds me when I have to ask if the escort can host and I get no response back.

 

? that’s why I even put it my ad that I do not host when I’m in a certain area. But....I’ve still had 2 people yesterday want to come to me, because they wanted me to host. I’m not bothered though because I already stated it in my ad. I understand in many cities, clients can’t host. And that’s okay because not everybody can create the proper ambience I desire for a session. My appointments are like a performance. I have music, candles, maybe some porn, wine, I welcome in with a sexy outfit or just a towel. I want guys to get their money’s worth and know that every appointment is a unique production.

 

But I don’t want to get caught into the rat race of having clients who just want to “come over” at the last minute with no real planning. The other day, I was out of town and gave a client my hotel and room number (something I don’t normally do but he claimed to have been Ubering over). He never showed up.

 

That said, your reference to trade shows and how a “tire kicker” could become a potential client makes sense. However, as I’ve said earlier: it’s not the same. I don’t think people go to trade shows with the intent to waste another’s time. But when a client from RentMen is scheduled to show at a particular time, and doesn’t. Or strings a provider along for several hours or days, that’s not cool.

 

I wouldn’t compare our biz to trade shows and other high turnover type of gigs. I would more relate it to hotels, airlines and wedding planners who more of a stringent guideline to appointments: because with this type of bookings: a canceled visit cheats another person out of an opportunity to book. Or, there’s upfront costs and work involved to ensure appointment can be made. If you don’t show up, you get charged. If you wouldn’t book a hotel and no show, wouldn’t book a flight and no show, or bail on a wedding planner who requires deposits, those people shouldn’t do it with a RentMan advertiser either.

[rustyrex]

I’ve been reaching out to various guys recently (I’m planning a SoCal trip) and eliminated San Diego. After the luke warm response to my inquiries, I was like, I’m not wasting my time or money going down there. It’s weird but I got a better response from the guys in the LA area so I’m spending the majority of my time there. I was going to substitute Vegas or Palm Springs for San Diego....or just spend an extra night in LA...can’t decide. My point is that communication with the providers has changed...I either get a great response or nothing or 3 days later a cryptic text when my interest has moved on. I’m only using RM....maybe I should start using Grindr but I doubt that’s any better. Am I wasting my time? I don’t think so, I’m setting up a situation in which I’m going to have some fun. If a guy can’t get back to me in decent time or doesn’t respond at all, I move on....there are too many other guys that will respond.

[lonely_john]

We all have been timewasters at some point in our lives, especially when prospecting escorts. It's the well-mannered, professional responses that catch our attention and convert a prospect into a booking.

 

I'm not saying legit timewasters, sick people who get off by wasting other people's time, don't exist. I think we inadvertently were serial timewasters, at the beginning of our hiring activities, always lurking until one day we decided to get serious, or that escort who pushed all our buttons and treated us with decency and patience convinced us to give him a try.

 

But I do acknowledge that timewasters are a real thing so when I see "don't waste my time" or a similar statement on an ad I don't take it personally. I just read it as another clause in the small print of a contract and I automatically try to be direct, brief, and sweet in my communications because I really do not want to waste my time, so if the provider doesn't have the right info on his ad or he doesn't provide the right answers to my questions, I move on.

 

Obviously, I'm an experienced client and focused on a very specific niche, so that probably also makes me different from the average client.

Edited April 19, 2021 by lonely_john

[down_to_business]

Just another thing that has me moving on to the next ad...like "high class only", "selective", "must send picture",”deposit required”, and having a really stupid name or shooting me the bird.

Edited April 18, 2021 by down_to_business

[CheckCar]

Not sure if this has already been said (too lazy right now to read the entire thread...sorry!), but I suspect there are some men who are attracted to that “don’t waste my time” attitude / bravado.

[lonely_john]

Just another thing that has me moving on to the next ad...like "high class only", "selective", "must send picture",”deposit required”, and having a really stupid name or shooting me the bird.

Great point. If I read "don't want my time wasted" alone along with a decently redacted ad, I would let it go and try to see if the provider has some potential. But if I read it in the context of a pretentious ad along with all those other demands, it's definitely a motive to move on.

[Danny-Darko]

"Don't waste my time" shows the person has no tact and poor customer service skills. And anybody with poor customer service skills will have no regards about wasting my time or qualms about making me waste my hard earned money. So we're not a fit. They need us more than we need them. Next!

[lonely_john]

"Don't waste my time" shows the person has no tact and poor customer service skills.

Or new/young, or English is not his first language, which could correlate with a different culture where being direct is more valued in business.

Also, some people become "caustic" when they run out of patience or have had their time wasted consistently.

They need us more than we need them. Next!

Not sure this is the right approach. I prefer to think that we need each other mutually.

I'm not looking for a boyfriend or husband, but rather 1 or more hours of a good f*ck.

Once I show I'm serious business most providers treat me accordingly, it's a win-win.

I, however, don't tolerate arrogance or big egos. If the guy is an asshole, he loses my business.