Toupée, or not toupée?

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Jeremy Piven

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I found this survey here:

https://www.primandprep.com/do-women-like-bald-men/

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[RealAvalon]

Exactly!

 

François Sagat

 

Is it mean to say ... SharpieGate?

[RealAvalon]

I don't go around trying to figure out who has a toupee or transplant.

 

That's because in 99.9999% of cases there is no 'figuring out' to be done. It's absolutely obvious. Both the toupee, and the person's insecurity about their baldness. Have I gone out with bald men - yes. Do I find it an attractive feature - no. And it's just the way it is. Big feet, small feet, head of hair or bald. Where ever you go, there you are.

[+ Gar1eth]

If you want to do it, go for it. My brother is in his mid-60's. I'm in my late 50's. I started losing my hair in my 20's. I've been totally bald on top for over 20 years. My brother still has the majority of his hair. Now he's in much better shape than I am. And for some reason I'm a lot grayer in what I have left than he is. But everyone thinks I'm the older brother. And no matter how out of shape I am, I know my baldness is a big factor.

 

Funny story. My Dad was bald like me. When I was 9 years old we were out of town visiting family and went to a Sears. Now in the old days Sears, and some other department stores, had a candy section in the middle of the store where they sold fresh made popcorn, caramel corn, jelly beans, etc, etc, and etc.

 

I had gone over the candy section. I'm not sure if I was buying anything. But the caramel corn smelled delicious. My older sister comes over to get me. She's says Mom and Dad want me. She leads me back over to where they were. But says something like, "They're here somewhere." We are looking around, but I don't see my parents.

 

While we are looking for them, my sister leads me past a row of chairs (like for a shoe section) placed next to the aisle. All of a sudden a man sitting in a chair at the end of a row of chairs-nearest the aisle says, "Little Boy," or something like that. I probably jumped. But it was my Dad!! He had a full head of hair. Sears used to sell men's wigs and toupees. I hadn't recognized him because except in old pictures or movies, I had never seen him with a full head of hair.

 

He started with a wig and then moved on to toupees. If I was 9-that would have been 1970. He wore them religiously during the day (except maybe while doing yard work and wearing a hat) and only taking it off in the late evenings before bedtime. He continued using them probably until 2015 or so-a few years before he passed.

 

Gman

Edited July 13, 2020 by Gar1eth

[+ FreshFluff]

You might look great with the shaved look. But if it bothers you and you can afford surgery, do a few consults. I've seen some great results, though they depend a lot on the skill of the surgeon. For those who are interested, I came across this active forum on the topic.

[Walker1]

Surgery seems to work wonders for some, I always wondered why it doesn't seem to affect women as much.

[+ Gar1eth]

You might look great with the shaved look. But if it bothers you and you can afford surgery, do a few consults. I've seen some great results, though they depend a lot on the skill of the surgeon. For those who are interested, I came across this active forum on the topic.

 

I remember seeing a story -possibly on 20/20 when I was in college on a drug they were testing-Minoxidil. I was so hoping it was going to be a cure as my dermatologist had told me when I was 17 or 18 that he could tell I was going to go bald.

 

When I had my career, routinely it would be me and maybe one or two other guys out of 7 to 10 males who were the only bald ones.

 

When I had the money, I was always worried about finding a good 'surgeon' and what I would look like during recovery. Now that I'll never be able to afford it, I wish I had been brave enough to have gotten it done.

 

Even after being bald for 30 years, it still bothers me. I'll go into a room, movie theater, park, stadium and look around. I'll see that 95% of the guys -even guys my own age-have most of their hair. I say something to myself about being bald probably almost daily or every other day. I know it's stupid. But in some ways, while obviously not as physically or health-wise as serious, I think psychologically it's very close to what women feel after having a mastectomy.

 

It's ridiculous that it's been 30 years, and I'm still not adjusted to it. On the other hand when you consider I never had sex and was a total virgin until I was 41 because I didn't want to be gay. And that even after I had sex I only really had my first non-escort sex sometime in my late 40's because I still didn't want to be gay-I don't take things I don't want to be true very well.

 

Gman

[+ FreshFluff]

Surgery seems to work wonders for some, I always wondered why it doesn't seem to affect women as much.

 

Why hair transplants don't work on women, you mean? Female pattern baldness is more diffuse than the male variety, so it's likely harder to get the hairs into the right spots. Maybe someone more familiar with this surgery can comment.

[JayCeeKy]

Disclaimer - I know virtually nothing about hair transplants. But I have heard that you can get a safe, inexpensive transplant in Mexico for about 25% of what they cost in the U.S. Their ads say their surgeons are trained in the US.

 

"Hair Transplant can cost as much as $20,000 USD in the U.S. ($6-$11 per graft) and, because it is generally not covered by most Health Insurance plans, is typically paid out-of-pocket or financed with high interest rate loans. With Health & Wellness Bazaar, traveling to Mexico for Hair Transplant is safe, easy, and affordable with packages starting at $2,790 USD ($1/graft) with minimum wait times. " -- from Mexican advertisement

 

https://hwbazaar.com/eng/treatment/hair-transplant-mexico/

 

Might be worth looking into. But I agree with most of the other comments that shaving your head, in most cases, looks better than a scraggly pate..

[Ajac]

Exactly!

 

François Sagat

 

[Ajac]

May I welcome Bosley's new regional rep Unicorn. I don't say some people haven't had good results just go in knowing results may vary. If you are really far gone like nothing on top they will convince you to do a scalp reduction, as gruesome as it sounds. The nurses are so well trained to fawn over you and tell you how hot you will look. After all was done I went back to see if anything could be done to cover an area where the scar was. I was then treated very differently they had my money they were done with me. Now I look like a guy who is a little less bald and have to make sure the hair in back is not cut to short as to not show the scars of the donor sites. So these photos of course are to highlight the successes but I am sure there as many that were disappointed.

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From where was this hair transplanted? Also, either he’s dyed both hair and beard, or the after is digitally manipulated.

[+ Pensant]

I have a friend who's a plastic surgeon. Even with a friendly discount, the NeoGraft would cost around $14,000. I have moderate hair loss and just started getting it buzzed with a 2 on the top fading to a 1 around the sides and nape. I'm lucky to have a nice head shape, so it looks great. I started it in December and would never go back. Now I never get hat hair.

[Rudynate]

Same for Kevin Kostner

 

 

His hairline looks excellent. So they CAN make a natural-looking hairline

[Rudynate]

I really go for bald musclemen.

[dbar123]

If you're going bald or grey or whatever, own it and enjoy it.

 

At 66 I am finally losing my hair and don't mind shaving it off.

[jeezifonly]

No! No hairpiece unless you’re an actor, and only on a shoot or a stage! Covering your current real hairline with a piece or “system” is kinda like lying about your dick size: You can only get away with it for so long before the Truth Will Out. Now, being better at sex can forgive a number of exaggerations made online including hair color, D size and age. Isn’t it harder to be a great partner when you’re more focused on keeping your profile pic from coming off in his hand as he screams your name?

 

Poor Sagat- that scalp motif is one of many tatts he has, which, along with his coloring, that...body, and other style choices, made it work...at first. The shape of the hairline was ill-advised from the get-go and can only do less to enhance his appearance going forward. I bet it did follow his own youthful (but probably very thin) hairline, the elimination of softness at the edge is not designed for the longevity he enjoys, and he’ll eventually have to relent to the imprint of his real hairline as it whitens, reducing his impressive Catalog down to the image of the one LEGO on the shelf that the maid missed when dusting.).

 

Ditch the piece! Cut your hair as short as possible!! Buzzed, faded, shaved, whatever. it can be managed on your own (for life even...) for WAY less $$ than any artificial illusions.

Instead: Think about using distraction to move the viewers eyes somewhere else. Like, try new facial hair options with your newly nude dome, especially if you are concerned about your head scale/shape in relation to your features or overall body. You’re not the bald guy, you’re the guy with the beard...

Got shitty looking facial hair? Eyewear, corrective or not, can be anyone’s friend as you get used to the new balance of light and shadow looking back at you. You know where to go... take a brutally honest friend.

 

Odds are you’ve already been some sort of “hat guy.” Be more of one. According to Randy Newman, You Can Leave Your Hat On.

Or be less of one. According to Stephen Sondheim, it’s unclear whether Anyone...still wears...a hat.

 

Bald is sexy and beautiful!! When will we disavow, once and for all, the obsessive human mythologies of Virility and Eternal Youth that make people volunteer to have surgery?? Whatever you’re genetically dealt, regardless of age, wear it as proud as you can. Keep it simple to manage. Cover/protect it with headgear and sunscreen, and for God’s sake, try not to make rash youth-grasping decisions that could deplete your savings and demand a full face of makeup and/or a turban to go out of doors when you’re 70...

 

“Imperfections”... how sad that we’ve let them become such a threat to our value.

[+ FreshFluff]

His hairline looks excellent. So they CAN make a natural-looking hairline

 

Sounds like one or two top transplant surgeons can. The A-listers always seem to get names of the top doctors, regardless of specialty? Wonder how they do it.

[Rudynate]

No! No hairpiece unless you’re an actor, and only on a shoot or a stage! Covering your current real hairline with a piece or “system” is kinda like lying about your dick size: You can only get away with it for so long before the Truth Will Out. Now, being better at sex can forgive a number of exaggerations made online including hair color, D size and age. Isn’t it harder to be a great partner when you’re more focused on keeping your profile pic from coming off in his hand as he screams your name?

 

Poor Sagat- that scalp motif is one of many tatts he has, which, along with his coloring, that...body, and other style choices, made it work...at first. The shape of the hairline was ill-advised from the get-go and can only do less to enhance his appearance going forward. I bet it did follow his own youthful (but probably very thin) hairline, the elimination of softness at the edge is not designed for the longevity he enjoys, and he’ll eventually have to relent to the imprint of his real hairline as it whitens, reducing his impressive Catalog down to the image of the one LEGO on the shelf that the maid missed when dusting.).

 

Ditch the piece! Cut your hair as short as possible!! Buzzed, faded, shaved, whatever. it can be managed on your own (for life even...) for WAY less $$ than any artificial illusions.

Instead: Think about using distraction to move the viewers eyes somewhere else. Like, try new facial hair options with your newly nude dome, especially if you are concerned about your head scale/shape in relation to your features or overall body. You’re not the bald guy, you’re the guy with the beard...

Got shitty looking facial hair? Eyewear, corrective or not, can be anyone’s friend as you get used to the new balance of light and shadow looking back at you. You know where to go... take a brutally honest friend.

 

Odds are you’ve already been some sort of “hat guy.” Be more of one. According to Randy Newman, You Can Leave Your Hat On.

Or be less of one. According to Stephen Sondheim, it’s unclear whether Anyone...still wears...a hat.

 

Bald is sexy and beautiful!! When will we disavow, once and for all, the obsessive human mythologies of Virility and Eternal Youth that make people volunteer to have surgery?? Whatever you’re genetically dealt, regardless of age, wear it as proud as you can. Keep it simple to manage. Cover/protect it with headgear and sunscreen, and for God’s sake, try not to make rash youth-grasping decisions that could deplete your savings and demand a full face of makeup and/or a turban to go out of doors when you’re 70...

 

“Imperfections”... how sad that we’ve let them become such a threat to our value.

 

 

I think Sagat's scalp tattoo was a deliberate choice.. He deliberately did it that way to be edgy. As a cover-up for hair loss it doesn't work at all. But as a device to create a startling unique look it is superb.

[Rudynate]

 

 

Bald is sexy and beautiful!!

 

 

 

If that's true, why would you create a distraction to pull someone's gaze away from your bald head? I think I might actually prefer bald men to men with hair - not totally sure. All those things that people do to distract from their baldness actually backfire. They telescope the message that you are excessively concerned with your appearance. The bald guy who just shows up with no apologies, no artifice, is miles ahead of the game. Subtly self-deprecating remarks about your baldness show others that you are comfortable with yourself and are extremely sexy.