Seeking arrangements success!

[+ glutes]

When I asked if we could do a massage exchange, a local guy replied: "Yes but I have a no sex policy"

[Skip]

I am not a regular poster like most of you guys, more a vouyer of this forum. Rent men, like Rentboy is fairly cut and dried, to the point. SA is more subtle, I have talked with several guys who didn't expect sex to be part of the arrangement. It takes a lot of work and there really aren't any free rides. All in all there are a lot of nice guys on there. I live in the Southeast so there is not a lot of talent here, but NY is a quick flight away. I move the age slider up to about 26 to eliminate the guys who are too young. Yes there are some you wonder why they think someone would compensate them for anything. All in all I have met 3 great guys. We arranged for an "eposodic" amount for the first meeting. Dinner a great hotel and 500-1000 in comp and everyone walks away happy. Another weekend of the same, I think all would say yes. PayPal eliminates the envelope. All in all a great site but it takes work. I had so much on my plate I had to take a break. I think the secret to any arrangement, or hire or whatever or how every long you want to call it is a sense of mutual respect. If you respect these guys as equals and treat them with kindness and some courtesy it is amazing what happens. If you're a nice guy (not stupid or naive) there are a lot of nice guys out there. I am 60 years old. I'm having more fun with more hot guys than I ever did in my 20's and 30's and was cruising around.

[down_to_business]

I have not had the success you all have had. The most meaningful message I got so far is "All your base are belong to us".

[+ glutes]

After a nice Skype session, and an agreement for dinner, movie and massage with ensuing 'allowance', the following text exchange was had:

 

Boi: Do you have Chase banking or Paypal?

Me: Why? Are you suggesting I pre-pay your allowance?

Boi: Of course. How do I know I am going to get my allowance?

Me: Sugar Daddy doesn't pay-in-advance.

[Skip]

I the offense in these matters. We agree on an "eposodic" amount, usually $1,000. Then once we have a date and a location, I ask immediately if they have a PayPal account, and transfer $250. That will give you an email address. THen I send them all the reservations, plane (mine or theirs) hotel etc. This makes them realize that you are ligit and they relax a bit. (There are as many flakes on the Daddy side as on the their side) We play it out, have a great evening/night/morning and I transfer the rest at some point on my phone. Most of these guys are just regular guys that have hit a rough spot, not the con guys you sometimes (not always and not the majority) find on Rent Men.

[MikeBiDude]

After a nice Skype session, and an agreement for dinner, movie and massage with ensuing 'allowance', the following text exchange was had:

 

Boi: Do you have Chase banking or Paypal?

Me: Why? Are you suggesting I pre-pay your allowance?

Boi: Of course. How do I know I am going to get my allowance?

Me: Sugar Daddy doesn't pay-in-advance.

@Oaktown have you had a single conversation on "seeking..." that's worked into a meeting?

[marylander1940]

After a nice Skype session, and an agreement for dinner, movie and massage with ensuing 'allowance', the following text exchange was had:

 

Boi: Do you have Chase banking or Paypal?

Me: Why? Are you suggesting I pre-pay your allowance?

Boi: Of course. How do I know I am going to get my allowance?

Me: Sugar Daddy doesn't pay-in-advance.

 

Sugar daddy gets some ass before paying.

[MikeBiDude]

I the offense in these matters. We agree on an "eposodic" amount, usually $1,000. Then once we have a date and a location, I ask immediately if they have a PayPal account, and transfer $250. That will give you an email address. THen I send them all the reservations, plane (mine or theirs) hotel etc. This makes them realize that you are ligit and they relax a bit. (There are as many flakes on the Daddy side as on the their side) We play it out, have a great evening/night/morning and I transfer the rest at some point on my phone. Most of these guys are just regular guys that have hit a rough spot, not the con guys you sometimes (not always and not the majority) find on Rent Men.

I've not offered anyone anything near your "episodic" amount, and I'm meeting lots of guys. Tonight I'm having a second date with a "seeking..." meet, not a penny has been discussed. He's a rare diamond in the rough there, I'll admit that. But my other meets have been lower or close to a Rentmen hourly rate, but I'm getting MUCH more than an hour's time, connection, chemistry than a Rentmen appointment.

 

I have one similar situation as you, "too much on my plate" at least on my meeting guys "plate". Maybe SoCal has more choices - both real and scams!

[+ Keith30309]

Most of the guys I've met face to face didn't have any clue about what was a reasonable amount. If someone is local and has a flexible schedule I suggest $200 for a couple of hours twice a week (not necessarily intimate - I enjoy lunches/dinners too). No one has ever said no to that.

If we really have a connection and end up sharing overnights then I give $300... Again, I've never gotten any sense of disappointment at that.

 

I really appreciate what @Skip said about mutual respect. I feel it's important to not take advantage of someone else's misfortune or naïveté - very bad karma that will come back to you.

[MiamiLooker]

But my other meets have been lower or close to a Rentmen hourly rate, but I'm getting MUCH more than an hour's time, connection, chemistry than a Rentmen appointment.

 

Assuming that most of your seekers are local to you, do you think that’s helpful in developing these, especially the connection and the chemistry? I’ve not used SA, nor have I used Rentmen (so I can’t speak to that as a reference point), but I think I’ve experienced similar results from using Craigslist.

[MikeBiDude]

Assuming that most of your seekers are local to you, do you think that’s helpful in developing these, especially the connection and the chemistry? I’ve not used SA, nor have I used Rentmen (so I can’t speak to that as a reference point), but I think I’ve experienced similar results from using Craigslist.

Helpful in the sense that many out-of-my-area guys tend to be more $$ oriented, as opposed to "connection" minded. The "locals" I'm working with want that connection, I weed out the ones that don't. It is a bit like Craigslist.

 

That said, it makes me laugh how some of these young guys don't want to travel 20 miles to meet me? I drive 30k+ mikes a year for work. Oh well, I'm learning quickly how much über costs me from various areas to my area, lol.

[+ glutes]

@Oaktown have you had a single conversation on "seeking..." that's worked into a meeting?

 

2 meetings. One semi-successful, the other not.

[+ goosh69]

Helpful in the sense that many out-of-my-area guys tend to be more $$ oriented, as opposed to "connection" minded. The "locals" I'm working with want that connection, I weed out the ones that don't. It is a bit like Craigslist.

 

That said, it makes me laugh how some of these young guys don't want to travel 20 miles to meet me? I drive 30k+ mikes a year for work. Oh well, I'm learning quickly how much über costs me from various areas to my area, lol.

 

Try just coming to midtown Manhattan from Brooklyn. Such a pain for some, apparently.

[MrMiniver]

As the person who started this thread more than a year ago, I decided to take a look at what's been posted. Tons. And lots of it good. As for me? Well, one of the reasons I've not been on here for a long time is that I met someone from Seeking Arrangements. And we've been in a "relationship" since late summer of 2016. I had quite a few good experiences and quite a few bad ones (including some really clueless guys). Then in last summer of last year, I came upon a 25 year old guy on the site. He's 4.5 hours from Manhattan. He's 25, putting himself through college at a very good school, teaches gymnastics, and has his own training business/gym. He's very self-sufficient, has been on his own since he was 19. Comes from a solid middle class family who live upstate. He called himself an "alpha with a heart." Loves older men, can't relate to young people his age. And he does physique competitions. We texted for a couple days, I thought it had promise so we agreed to meet halfway at a hotel. Because of his limited schedule he said he'd have to leave in the middle of the night to get back for a client appointment at 6 am ....

 

So we met. It was non-stop talking for 3 hours as we instantly got along. He was very masculine, very alpha. At one point, he said "get over here" and he got on top of me and we stated making out and fooling around. We went to dinner and then settled in to watch a movie in bed. He was obviously very tired (he seems to be going 24/7) and at one point he fell asleep. I let him sleep. I thought it was clear that we had made a connection and that I would be interested in an arrangement with this guy. I was sound asleep and then around 3:30 I felt movement. I figured he got up to leave. I was half asleep when -- not saying a word -- as he was leaving he leaned over me and kissed me on the forehead. I thought this is a keeper.

 

We spent several weeks back and forth texting -- he unsure if he had the time to do this but wanting to -- but I felt there was something good here. So we eventually settled on a week to go to my lake house. We discussed money and we were all set. By the end of the first day, it was clear something was going on. I wanted to say something, he sensed it and said go ahead. I told him it was crazy but I really liked him and it would be a real fantasy to date. He said "why do you think it's a fantasy ...."

 

It's 7 months later, and we're still together. We realized that week we had a real connection and decided we should be together. No money has ever exchanged hands. I've tried helping him out from time to time but I usually have to be some money in his jacket pocket or something. He really doesn't want it but I know he could use it. He's very drived, goal oriented, ambitious ... we haven't had a cross word or argument. Our only real conflict is that because he's so busy we don't get to see each other as much as we'd like.

 

I wake up each day thinking this is too good to be true but then I get a text in the morning saying "good morning sweetie, have a great day, love you ..." and I realize that it is really happening. He's basically a younger, way hotter, more masculine version of me ....

 

So I'd have to call Seeking Arrangements a success for me. I didn't find what I was seeking there (something uncomplicated) but I think I've found something much better. I have no idea how long this will last but I'm very happy for right now.

[MrMiniver]

Usually one of the two gets more out of the arrangement and its usually the sugardaddy. I remember I was talking to this guy and I always try to talk about the allowance beforehand so that neither of us waste our time. He didnt want too, he said we can talk about in person. So I end up meeting him and spent the evening with him, and we talked about everything but that, I was waiting for him to bring it up, he never did. Then as he was driving me back to the train station so I can go home, he said I would like to see you again. Thats when I brought up the allowance and he goes um well I can do 100 bucks I guess.

Everyone wants to take me on dates and be my boyfriend but no one wants to help me financially lol

 

P.s holy crap I just remember my password and I realized I hadn't been on there for 5 months

 

I've got a ton of really bad stories but one involved a male model who I flew out from LA. He really thought A LOT about himself. Spent 4 days with me, wouldn't kiss, would barely touch. I realized it was a bust and he wasn't my type. In the car ON THE WAY TO THE AIRPORT he said "you know what? I actually thought about kissing you in the hot tub last night." I did everything I could to not laugh out loud. But ... it gets better. He said he thought we "were very compatible and he wanted an arrangement." Yes he was that clueless. I played along -- knowing I would never see him again -- and asked him what he wanted. He said $90,000 to get his MBA and that he would be "mine, exclusively for 18 months."

I said sure ... and dropped him off. I immediately erased and blocked him from my phone and email.

[+ Keith30309]

So I'd have to call Seeking Arrangements a success for me. I didn't find what I was seeking there (something uncomplicated) but I think I've found something much better. I have no idea how long this will last but I'm very happy for right now.

 

That's an awesome experience - thank you for sharing it. Best wishes to you and your boyfriend!

[+ glutes]

That's an awesome experience - thank you for sharing it. Best wishes to you and your boyfriend!

 

I agree, there are diamonds in the mine out there. You just have to have a lot of patience, and the ability to 'mine'.

 

 

Edited February 12, 2017 by Oaktown

[bigvalboy]

After reading some of these stories...The Boardwalk and the occasional afternoon fling from CL, looks better and better. For now I think I'll stick with the little stripper boys. More to go around since @BOZO T CLOWN doesn't hire the illegal ones anymore.

 

And God bless you guys for your tenacity. What's interesting is what I didn't hear was a lot of resentment or bitterness on the part of the client. Seems like most of you have learned to play the game, and understand the pros and cons. Like most things in life, out of defeat, often comes victory...fascinating stories.

[MrMiniver]

After reading some of these stories...The Boardwalk and the occasional afternoon fling from CL, looks better and better. For now I think I'll stick with the little stripper boys. More to go around since @BOZO T CLOWN doesn't hire the illegal ones anymore.

 

And God bless you guys for your tenacity. What's interesting is what I didn't hear was a lot of resentment or bitterness on the part of the client. Seems like most of you have learned to play the game, and understand the pros and cons. Like most things in life, out of defeat, often comes victory...fascinating stories.

 

I see no point in bitterness or resentment. I always have a good time, because I know how to make my own good time even with a loser in the other room

[MiamiLooker]

Helpful in the sense that many out-of-my-area guys tend to be more $$ oriented, as opposed to "connection" minded. The "locals" I'm working with want that connection, I weed out the ones that don't. It is a bit like Craigslist.

 

That said, it makes me laugh how some of these young guys don't want to travel 20 miles to meet me? I drive 30k+ mikes a year for work. Oh well, I'm learning quickly how much über costs me from various areas to my area, lol.

 

Based on forum postings, what I find interesting is that a lot of clients seem to want the connection and the chemistry, but they limit their shopping to only Rentmen or the like. They hire a particular escort once or maybe twice a year. They’re one among possibly hundreds of other clients of the escort (maybe even one of several clients in a given day). Yet, they think they’ve got that special connection and chemistry. I suppose that indicates the escort is successful at his job, but it seems to me a lot of clients are shopping in the wrong stores.

[MrMiniver]

The thing is there are guys out there looking for free sex, and just use that they want a longterm arrangement to get sex from a guy they just met the first time they meet. Perhaps that model wanted to be paid first/upfront before he did anything with you

 

But it doesn't matter as you said he wasn't your type, I had a friend who met a guy and they kissed and did more and the client said he wanted to meet these days and said he could do this amount, and then when my friend got home, the guy texted him, yeah its not going to work out your not my type, after all the stuff they did... So your telling me he wasn't your type when you did all that sexual stuff ok... lol

 

I'm not sure you read what I wrote or understand the nature of the arrangement. He was there to "audition" for what is, essentially, a part. He failed the audition and was clueless that he had done so. Even though we talked about it incessantly for 4 days. If someone wants something UPFRONT, then they should state that. Otherwise, they need to go with the agreement that was made.

 

I think it's the "sugar babies" trying to get something for nothing, or something for as little as possible. That shit won't fly with me. You either do what we agreed upon or you get NOTHING. Period. End of discussion. I don't play games.

[+ Keith30309]

One interesting observation about my SA experiences thus far: I've encountered all kinds of guys - naive, suspicious, inexperienced, unrealistic, modest, boastful, tentative, etc., but I've only come across one game-player. A guy in Houston who was very interested in me very early. He was highly interested in meeting me ASAP and nailing down a date and time. I looked around and it turns out he had a string of BackPage ads he had run in several cities in the Western US.

I mentioned it in passing - it was by no means a disqualifier for me - but his tone changed and he became even more persistent except he began including dollar figures and things he would do. Thanks but no thanks.

 

I see a fair number of RM guys on SA and it doesn't change much from my perspective except that 1) it makes the financial discussion much easier, and 2) I become wary of the relationship being a generic escort assembly-line experience.

[+ PapaTony]

I've met up with a few very handsome young men, who just LOVE daddy. Dinner and a date. I feel like I am 25 again.

.

Me too. Very positive results.

I've received a few of the rude ones and that Germany pitch too but just ignore them.

 

I've met 2 really lovely boys, each of which just LOVE daddy. One has never asked for money, in fact detests the idea, but we've had a few dinners together and one very lovely overnight.

 

The other is a hard working student with a side job who I've been with several times (he LOVES fcuking daddy) and yes I've helped him a bit (minor) financially but only to ease his strain.

[+ PapaTony]

As the person who started this thread more than a year ago, I decided to take a look at what's been posted. Tons. And lots of it good. As for me? Well, one of the reasons I've not been on here for a long time is that I met someone from Seeking Arrangements. And we've been in a "relationship" since late summer of 2016. I had quite a few good experiences and quite a few bad ones (including some really clueless guys). Then in last summer of last year, I came upon a 25 year old guy on the site. He's 4.5 hours from Manhattan. He's 25, putting himself through college at a very good school, teaches gymnastics, and has his own training business/gym. He's very self-sufficient, has been on his own since he was 19. Comes from a solid middle class family who live upstate. He called himself an "alpha with a heart." Loves older men, can't relate to young people his age. And he does physique competitions. We texted for a couple days, I thought it had promise so we agreed to meet halfway at a hotel. Because of his limited schedule he said he'd have to leave in the middle of the night to get back for a client appointment at 6 am ....

 

So we met. It was non-stop talking for 3 hours as we instantly got along. He was very masculine, very alpha. At one point, he said "get over here" and he got on top of me and we stated making out and fooling around. We went to dinner and then settled in to watch a movie in bed. He was obviously very tired (he seems to be going 24/7) and at one point he fell asleep. I let him sleep. I thought it was clear that we had made a connection and that I would be interested in an arrangement with this guy. I was sound asleep and then around 3:30 I felt movement. I figured he got up to leave. I was half asleep when -- not saying a word -- as he was leaving he leaned over me and kissed me on the forehead. I thought this is a keeper.

 

We spent several weeks back and forth texting -- he unsure if he had the time to do this but wanting to -- but I felt there was something good here. So we eventually settled on a week to go to my lake house. We discussed money and we were all set. By the end of the first day, it was clear something was going on. I wanted to say something, he sensed it and said go ahead. I told him it was crazy but I really liked him and it would be a real fantasy to date. He said "why do you think it's a fantasy ...."

 

It's 7 months later, and we're still together. We realized that week we had a real connection and decided we should be together. No money has ever exchanged hands. I've tried helping him out from time to time but I usually have to be some money in his jacket pocket or something. He really doesn't want it but I know he could use it. He's very drived, goal oriented, ambitious ... we haven't had a cross word or argument. Our only real conflict is that because he's so busy we don't get to see each other as much as we'd like.

 

I wake up each day thinking this is too good to be true but then I get a text in the morning saying "good morning sweetie, have a great day, love you ..." and I realize that it is really happening. He's basically a younger, way hotter, more masculine version of me ....

 

So I'd have to call Seeking Arrangements a success for me. I didn't find what I was seeking there (something uncomplicated) but I think I've found something much better. I have no idea how long this will last but I'm very happy for right now.

.

Congrats!!!

[+ PapaTony]

So... following up on my last entry. I've been chatting with another boy for two weeks and have now made plans to meet him tomorrow evening in a hotel suite.

 

Any hints / tips on how to do some background checking on him? I'm not on twitter/Facebook/ or anything else