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This is something I've been curious about for a while. How do providers (particularly masseurs, who are seeing more clients than escorts) stay under the radar when taking clients at a hotel? Especially higher end ones with secure elevators and 24/7 security staff in the lobby?

Say a provider is staying at a hotel for a week or two. Surely the staff will notice him meeting men in the lobby multiple times daily and they would figure out the score quickly.

He would also be going through a lot of towels...

Do hotels really not care? A masseur recently came through my area and I thought his choice of hotel was odd because he was staying in a swanky suite in an already expensive hotel. That would take a lot of massages to break even. And I thought that kind of volume would probably attract attention.

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They don’t care. I must admit I don’t stay at a hotel and meet multiple clients. It’s usually me visiting a client at their hotel, and I’ve taken my table in to many of them (although often the client opts for massage on the bed rather than the table). I’ve never been challenged taking in the table, even at high end hotels. At most hotels the client comes to meet me in the lobby because a key is needed to access the lifts (elevator 😉). Hotel staff are not bothered as long as you are discreet and look professional.

I also book hotels to do filming in. I have the massage table and lights / equipment for filming. Obviously I’m very discreet about it, and I ask the guys who I’m filming with to arrive discreetly etc. There’s never been a problem. Just leave the room nice and tidy and don’t make too much noise. Hotel staff have seen everything, they’re cool about sex work as long as it’s discreet and quiet. No drugs, no loud music, no drama. 
 

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My father was in the hotel biz for 25+ years, many of those in management. He once told me that as long as your actions do not disturb the other guests, and as long as your conduct and appearance are acceptable, then hotel personnel will leave you alone. In hotels with key-activated elevators, you go meet your provider in the lobby. These guys are pros (or should be) and they know how to conduct themselves without drawing attention or attracting scrutiny. “Discretion” is the key word here. Also, a number of my hires have shown up at hotels in a sport coat or blazer; dressed like that you won’t register suspicion. Even when carrying a massage table. (Tip the bellman twenty bucks and chances are he will walk your provider to your room AND carry the table.) Veteran hotel employees have seen it all; they know who’s who and what’s what. 

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35 minutes ago, mtaabq said:

My father was in the hotel biz for 25+ years, many of those in management. He once told me that as long as your actions do not disturb the other guests, and as long as your conduct and appearance are acceptable, then hotel personnel will leave you alone. In hotels with key-activated elevators, you go meet your provider in the lobby. These guys are pros (or should be) and they know how to conduct themselves without drawing attention or attracting scrutiny. “Discretion” is the key word here. Also, a number of my hires have shown up at hotels in a sport coat or blazer; dressed like that you won’t register suspicion. Even when carrying a massage table. (Tip the bellman twenty bucks and chances are he will walk your provider to your room AND carry the table.) Veteran hotel employees have seen it all; they know who’s who and what’s what. 

I've never really had concerns with hotel outcalls. It just seemed to me that hotel incalls (clients going to the provider's hotel) have the potential to invite more scrutiny from hotel staff/security.

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22 minutes ago, moonlight said:

I've never really had concerns with hotel outcalls. It just seemed to me that hotel incalls (clients going to the provider's hotel) have the potential to invite more scrutiny from hotel staff/security.

Ah. I wasn’t looking at it completely from the provider as hotel guest (incall) point of view. My bad. Upon reflection I can understand the concern. A provider inviting a variety of men to his hotel room could invite more scrutiny. Again, the conduct of both provider and client are key. If they are not calling attention to themselves, if the other guests are not being disturbed, and if the provider is current on all hotel charges, then the hotel should have no room for complaint nor any reason to take action. The hotel staff and security can “suspect” all they want. Believe me - a barking dog or noisy kids are going to draw more attention than a well-behaved man welcoming male guests in 1- and 2-hour time blocks. And don’t forget to tip housekeepers - ten bucks or better - as that will buy you a lot of goodwill. 

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3 hours ago, moonlight said:

Say a provider is staying at a hotel for a week or two. Surely the staff will notice him meeting men in the lobby multiple times daily and they would figure out the score quickly.

He would also be going through a lot of towels...

I just came back from a week trip to NYC, where I had multiple people visit me in my room each day (either hookups or I hired).  Most of them I met outside the hotel and we walked in together.  Some were waiting for me in the lobby.  I never had an issue with the hotel.  I was given 3 sets of towels a day which was satisfactory.  Last year I spent 2 weeks at the same hotel and hired more aggressively, so I occasionally asked for extra towels and the request was honored. 

Only twice have I had an issue bringing an escort to my room,  one in Barcelona and one in Zurich.  Both cases were after 11pm when the lobby doors were locked.  In Barcelona, they merely wanted to see the ID of my escort friend who was accompanying me to the room.  In Zurich, they would not admit my escort friend because I had only paid city taxes for 1 person in the room instead of for 2. That is why now I always make the reservation for 2 people.  I had no problem bringing a guest to that same hotel the next day before they closed the lobby doors at 11pm.

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While I prefer short term rentals, I have fewer issues at hotels. Hotels don’t care; staff see everything. As long as you’re respectful and discreet, all is well.

Some short term rental hosts are more easily scandalized, so I take many steps to avoid problems. Time consuming but worth the hassle. Hotels I don’t give a second thought.

In hotels I mostly stay 1-2 nights so as not to run out of clean linens and then catch up to it on the next stop. Some hotel brands offer laundry in the room or shared facilities, which will work for longer stays. Generally I can snag a better deal at a short term rental. I don’t want to rent bottom of the barrel hotel/motel brands. It’s bad for business, so I economize with short term rentals.

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I hire at hotels all the time.

The decent chain ones don't care - it's common for a provider to just walk directly to my room.

In better hotels, you have to come down to help them with the elevator key.

In either case, nobody on staff cared, and I got a wink from a clerk who assumed I'd have "guests" overnight. The only thing you have to watch out for is people you know, if you're at a convention or something, and even then there's ways to minimize your visibility.

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21 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

They don’t care. I must admit I don’t stay at a hotel and meet multiple clients. It’s usually me visiting a client at their hotel, and I’ve taken my table in to many of them (although often the client opts for massage on the bed rather than the table). I’ve never been challenged taking in the table, even at high end hotels. At most hotels the client comes to meet me in the lobby because a key is needed to access the lifts (elevator 😉). Hotel staff are not bothered as long as you are discreet and look professional.

I also book hotels to do filming in. I have the massage table and lights / equipment for filming. Obviously I’m very discreet about it, and I ask the guys who I’m filming with to arrive discreetly etc. There’s never been a problem. Just leave the room nice and tidy and don’t make too much noise. Hotel staff have seen everything, they’re cool about sex work as long as it’s discreet and quiet. No drugs, no loud music, no drama. 
 

 

Hilton and Novotel don't require keycards in my experience.

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A major reason many people (like us) use hotel rooms is for "illicit" sex of one kind or another. Everyone knows and no one cares as long as your screams of ecstasy don't disturb the neighbors or you pull the chandelier out of the ceiling hanging on it. Oh yes, for the sake of the maid, strip the bed and wrap the sheets around the towels and leave on the floor...the maid knows what that means. 

 

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6 hours ago, Constantine said:

I would stay away from Citizen M though. At the one I stayed in the staff watch the entrance like a hawk so easily catch on when you keep meeting providers. I got a nasty glare from an employee.

I didn't have this problem at Citizen M. I actually really love that hotel for local stay-cations. Though i know each one in each city is probably very different. But the one time i hired at my local Citizen M. The guy (the provider) walked in on his own, went past the front desk staff, and sat somewhere in the "living room"/lobby/work area right next to the elevators. I came down and got him and took him up to the room. Then about 2 hours later he left on his own. For him walking in and leaving, he probably just looked like someone coming to go to their room or visit a friend. No issues at all.

I know Citizen M locks the lobby door after a certain time of night though and my meeting was before that time. So maybe it would have been different if i went down to the lobby at 11pm to go let the guy in, i don't know.

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30 minutes ago, DMonDude said:

I didn't have this problem at Citizen M. I actually really love that hotel for local stay-cations. Though i know each one in each city is probably very different. But the one time i hired at my local Citizen M. The guy (the provider) walked in on his own, went past the front desk staff, and sat somewhere in the "living room"/lobby/work area right next to the elevators. I came down and got him and took him up to the room. Then about 2 hours later he left on his own. For him walking in and leaving, he probably just looked like someone coming to go to their room or visit a friend. No issues at all.

I know Citizen M locks the lobby door after a certain time of night though and my meeting was before that time. So maybe it would have been different if i went down to the lobby at 11pm to go let the guy in, i don't know.

 

The sink in the bedroom is also a deal breaker for me in its own right.

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Decades ago late one night at the Hotel Bel Air, I had only my client's first name and his NY cell phone.  But there was, and probably still isn't, good ATT reception in Bel Air.  It took a lot of calls from gate security to the manager to get them to call the guest with, luckily, a unique first name. Eventually, they let me in and boy was he young and rich and fun. No one famous.

Another story I've told here too often was the OC client who wanted me to strip fully down then knock naked on his Beverly Hills Peninsula room door at 4am.  I took the dare, but chickened out mostly:  the area around his door wasn't quite as private as he sold it, I took off just my shirt, I looked naked through his peephole and he opened the door :-) Strange fun guy, he had a lot of bad notices on the old old (Raphael Alencar sponsored?) blacklist site, but I think that was just because he was unique and demanding and British.  He would often threaten to not pay, but that seemed more like just a kink.  I digress.

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I recall an interesting visit to a regular client at his hotel just off Piccadilly in London. My client was a regular (visitor from abroad, couple of times a year, I guess he was about 70 quite large, total bottom). He usually enjoyed a bit of massage on the bed, then play, and at least half the session, during natural breaks, would include discussion about the royal family, politics, theatre.

This time was to be no different except he told me he was travelling with a lady friend from Brazil. We’ll call her Maria, although it wasn’t her name but for discretion that’s what we shall use. I never worked out their relationship but I think she was a long standing travel companion with shared interest in theatre, travel and food. He asked was I ok with Maria being there? I said ‘of course, it’s fine’ although I didn’t check what he wanted to happen between the 3 of us. Perhaps I should have. 

His room was an apartment so when I arrived I was introduced to Maria in the lounge area and we chatted for a while over drinks while my client showered. Maria was a very well proportioned lady in her 40’s with that kind of cool sophistication and allure that seems to come effortlessly to Brazilians. After a while my client invited me to join him in the bedroom and said that Maria would join us in about an hour…

Unfortunately that day I’d already seen two clients so I was fairly whacked already. I wouldn’t have normally accepted his booking but this evening was his only opportunity and because he was a regular, great fun and a generous tipper I confirmed his booking. I struggled to stay hard during the session with him and was thinking I hope he doesn’t want to watch me and Maria when she joins. Then I heard the door open and Maria walked in wearing nothing but a massive strap on. She dragged the client to the end of the bed, bent him over and saw to him while he sucked me. After about 2 minutes he was finished. I’ve never been so relieved.

We then the lay there on the bed and discussed what theatre shows they were planning to see on the visit. I was tempted to ask Maria if she’d see to me with that strap on but I hadn’t prepared so it was a missed opportunity. 




 

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On 9/7/2025 at 4:03 PM, Constantine said:

I would stay away from Citizen M though.

Me too, but for totally different reasons

Their entire design model is based on building rooms in 14 foot shipping containers, and then stacking them up on site.

That’s not a room I want to stay in….anywhere.

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Another good hotel story.  Decades and decades ago my friend was staying at the St. Francis.  As many of you know, long ago the area to the south of the St. Francis was where lots of hustlers loitered.  My friend found one, brought him up to his room, they had a great time and before he left the guy told my friend he had another appointment in just a few minutes in the hotel.  Once he'd left, my friend went down and sat in the waiting area at the side of the hotel.  An hour or two later the hustler walked by on his way out, and my friend asked him if he'd like to come up again.  He did.

I use to see, quite regularly, someone who managed a very large downtown hotel, so he always knew which rooms were available, which was convenient.

God hotels are sexy.  So many stories.  Actually, since it seems like there's no end to them, the next escort memoir focus and title:  Hotel Tales.

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Another hotel tale. I met a client at an out of town hotel for a 3 hour session. Mid session the client took a phone call from an associate of his. It seemed there had been some kind of attack on one of his properties. He gave instructions to have the perpetrators ‘dealt with’. After he’d finished with the call he phoned his wife to let her know. All the time I lay there naked on the bed. I’d offered to leave but he indicated to me to stay so I heard everything which didn’t seem to bother him. After the calls he told me his wife was a high power city lawyer who knew everything about his business. He seemed to do something in construction or property but he was vague about the details. I asked him what had happened and he told me there was some dispute with a business rival. He said he’d arranged to have them ‘sorted out’. I didn’t like to ask what that meant but I think it involved broken legs. I didn’t doubt him because he seemed like a complete wide boy. Translation for US readers - a ‘wide boy’ in British English is someone involved in criminal activity.

Strangely I never felt unsafe with him. Despite him talking and appearing tough he just loved kissing and cuddling. Much of the session he cuddled me while telling me what was going to happen to the guys who had crossed him, about his work, and letting me know that if I needed anything (me: ‘like what?’ him: ‘anything you like Jamie’) and about how his wife was much posher than he was. Such an interesting client. 
 

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