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I would only do four hands with a duo that actively markets that as a specialized service. Even then it’s usually disappointing. I don’t bother with four hands anymore.

I’ve seen it in places like Mexico or the Philippines. Mainly part time guys looking for a quick buck.

I find that guys that actually engage in group sex rarely use the word orgy, which is a much more dramatic word usually used by censorious guys for slut-shaming. Of course there are exceptions. It’s sometimes used for marketing private parties to make them sound more exciting.

How did it go?

This reminds me of something I tried to put together in Japan while on a business trip. Japan has a bunch of agencies with websites where you can order almost any scenario you want (I think they call them “programs”). I contacted three or four of the sites asking for a program of me watching two versatile guys flip fucking each other. They were totally flummoxed by the request. One site was really nice and spent days asking their entire roster of guys to take the job and no one would do it. I know Japan has a very unique culture, but I’ve found it difficult to create a similar scenario in Europe as well. If there are any providers here, I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. Do you avoid playing with other providers? Have you done groups with other providers?

I consider myself metrosexual. Not super butch or jockey and not feminine, but no one is the least bit surprised to find out I’m gay. I think “fem” over the last few years has become a fetish identifier in ads or porn descriptions. It often involves being young, super skinny, wearing makeup, stockings, cross dressing, etc. Few guys would have self-identified as femme ten years ago, even if they were gayer than Christmas. Now you see guys using in their OlnyFans description, etc. Times have changed.

I’ve not had much success with this scenario. The problem is most providers don’t like working with other providers. Why this is I don’t know, but it’s led to some lame experiences where some of the guys had to leave early despite my being detailed about the scenario and what to expect. I’ve also tried it with letting the initial provider choose his own playmates, which I assumed be fun and easy for him. Most don’t have anyone at hand and usually find some random guy online. I also find guys are much more honest about their preferences and limitations in a one-on-one, but are less so when in a group. I’m very specific about wanting versatile guys that will flip fuck with everyone. They agree initially, but then show up and say they don’t get fucked much and only want to top, etc. Some providers specialize in group play and will note it in their ads. I don’t bother anymore with providers that aren’t totally into the scenario but it just doesn’t work out.

I’ve had to be in Rome for work twice this year and am going back in September. I’ve found it to be a lame city for massages. Very few guys have tables. Most want to come to your hotel and massage on the bed, which is not enjoyable in my opinion if you’re actually interested in the massage. If anyone has tips on talented guys with technique and tables please share the info.

I tend to book at the last minute for the same day so I use a shotgun approach as most guys are not available on short notice.

Thinking about going in 2027. Has anyone been? Any tips?

The trick for the Taj Mahal is to go a dawn right when it opens. It’s the coolest part of the day and there are no crowds.

I love talking about sex and hearing about other guy’s adventures, which is one of the reasons I’m on this and similar sites. However I keep that side very sequestered. I only share with guys I know have similar interests.

I live on the UES and he was very accommodating for a last-minute appointment. Very strong hands and good technique. I didn’t ask for extras, but they were available. Nice guy in a very convenient location for me, will go back.

It’s faster to txt so it’s my preferred option, especially as so many providers take a while to respond.

Many providers avoid cumming unless you specifically request it ahead of time. Even then, when he say that it’s difficult for them to cum in the moment. If cum play is really important to you, you need to let him know and make sure he’s prepared. Maybe schedule the last appointment of the day.