Another Theme On Deposits

[PileDriver]

made a date yesterday, traveled 45 minutes on the NYC transit system to the provider's hotel. texted him i was in the lobby and was told i neeed to make a deposit. weird. and the deposit had to apple pay. no other options. lol. seriously. texted photos of the hotel lobby and was told i'm a time waster. sigh. 45 minute trip home. who's the time waster. then he had the nerve to text a tirade because i refused to pay the deposit. dear lord.and then a friend of his started texting me about how grotesque i am...a new low. 

[Moke]

Well clearly not paying the deposit was the right thing to do. Sorry about your bad experience!  

[robberbaron4u]

Do not give until you have gotten. It is a rule that derives from the nature of the business. The market is over saturated with "providers"; I am amused that a provider suffers under the delusion that he is the " end all", and, thereby, he can run the market. The reality of the thing being that "escorting" is a buyer's market.  If the provider demands a deposit, walk on as I assure you, there is something bigger and better just around the corner who will be more accommodating.

[rvwnsd]

1 hour ago, PileDriver said:

made a date yesterday, traveled 45 minutes on the NYC transit system to the provider's hotel. texted him i was in the lobby and was told i neeed to make a deposit. weird. and the deposit had to apple pay. no other options. lol. seriously. texted photos of the hotel lobby and was told i'm a time waster. sigh. 45 minute trip home. who's the time waster. then he had the nerve to text a tirade because i refused to pay the deposit. dear lord.and then a friend of his started texting me about how grotesque i am...a new low. 

WTF? He wanted a deposit to let you up to his room? That's crazy. And then to pull the abusive shit? You certainly dodged a bullet there.

[marylander1940]

3 hours ago, PileDriver said:

made a date yesterday, traveled 45 minutes on the NYC transit system to the provider's hotel. texted him i was in the lobby and was told i neeed to make a deposit. weird. and the deposit had to apple pay. no other options. lol. seriously. texted photos of the hotel lobby and was told i'm a time waster. sigh. 45 minute trip home. who's the time waster. then he had the nerve to text a tirade because i refused to pay the deposit. dear lord.and then a friend of his started texting me about how grotesque i am...a new low. 

I'm sure it wasn't the scammer first scam.

Should we start naming names and posting the pics they're using as a warning? 

Edited April 11 by marylander1940

[PileDriver]

HungArabic. A player and scam artist.

[PileDriver]

not a post i wanted to make but...

[BuffaloKyle]

23 minutes ago, PileDriver said:

HungArabic. A player and scam artist.

He's got so many perfect reviews too. Wow. Very odd situation.

[PileDriver]

oh. I know. was at the cusp of glory and then bam...money in my pocket too

Edited April 11 by PileDriver

[+ KensingtonHomo]

That's insane. 

So weird, I was checking out his profile because we're supposed to be in DC at the same time this weekend. I ultimately ruled him out because he's a "total top" and identifies as "straight." No judgement but that's not for me. 

Edited April 11 by KensingtonHomo

[PileDriver]

he presented so well until...

[JamesB]

He requested a deposit once you were already in the hotel lobby, just before going up to his room? There was no mention of a deposit before that? That doesn't seem to make any sense.

[marylander1940]

2 hours ago, PileDriver said:

HungArabic. A player and scam artist.

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[Jarrod_Uncut]

3 hours ago, robberbaron4u said:

Do not give until you have gotten. It is a rule that derives from the nature of the business. The market is over saturated with "providers"; I am amused that a provider suffers under the delusion that he is the " end all", and, thereby, he can run the market. The reality of the thing being that "escorting" is a buyer's market.  If the provider demands a deposit, walk on as I assure you, there is something bigger and better just around the corner who will be more accommodating.

That’s bullshit. 100% bullshit. What rule derived from the nature of the business you refer to? What do you think came first, the prostitute or the client?
 

You seem to believe that clients CREATED escorting. That clients CREATED RentMen. No, the only thing that has been created by clients is stuff like review boards like this. Maybe in this realm, people can assume rules they can or won’t do. Other than that, y’all aren’t running the business either, nor making rules for how providers wish to run things. 

I’m fine with clients paying after they have received, however a deposit is not negotiable. Granted in the case of this guy, the deposit did seem to be asked a bit late. I don’t even give out my hotel name or address without a deposit. They get cross streets, where there’s likely 5 other hotels nearby. 
 

That said, unless someone posts the exchange of what occurred…who’s to say it actually happened verbatim? Something could be missing here. I find most stories here hard to believe without text message screenshots from start to finish. 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

4 hours ago, PileDriver said:

HungArabic. A player and scam artist.

I remember years ago, can’t remember where though: I read something that an escort who’s really serious about going to the next level should always have a “Working name”. I find most of the guys getting into tussles, seem to be picking guys with generic and explicit names. 
 

BBCHung, ArabHung, BigWhiteCock, HungLatin are likely all just baits to get you in, and do whatever. Have to be a bit more discerning. Even if they guy is all good and real, it could be the way they move that’s the issue.

And if were me, I would never go to a hotel without a room number…Its not the deposit that was the issue. That was just the facilitator. What y’all should have done, is you should have verified his room number by asking if you can call him at his hotel room. In which case he should have mentioned he requires a deposit before providing his room number.

That’s where I find sometimes clients are gullible too because, they dash out to meet without doing any common sense checks. And half be bluffing anyway. Of course some of these escorts may be phony too, but that’s why it’s good for both to ensure proper checks. 

Edited April 11 by Jarrod_Uncut

[peter831]

I had a situation with another well reviewed provider on RM and on here. We had arranged an outcall a couple of days in advance and re-confirmed the day of. Then a couple of hours before the agreed time, he texts that he wants a deposit. I told him no and if he wanted a deposit he should have told me upfront so I could contact a different provider. That is total BS. 

[robberbaron4u]

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

That’s bullshit. 100% bullshit. What rule derived from the nature of the business you refer to? What do you think came first, the prostitute or the client?
 

You seem to believe that clients CREATED escorting. That clients CREATED RentMen. No, the only thing that has been created by clients is stuff like review boards like this. Maybe in this realm, people can assume rules they can or won’t do. Other than that, y’all aren’t running the business either, nor making rules for how providers wish to run things. 

I’m fine with clients paying after they have received, however a deposit is not negotiable. Granted in the case of this guy, the deposit did seem to be asked a bit late. I don’t even give out my hotel name or address without a deposit. They get cross streets, where there’s likely 5 other hotels nearby. 
 

That said, unless someone posts the exchange of what occurred…who’s to say it actually happened verbatim? Something could be missing here. I find most stories here hard to believe without text message screenshots from start to finish. 

 

Let us not get our knickers in a twist over which came first, the chicken or the egg as spontaneous combustion seems the most likely circumstance...

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, robberbaron4u said:

Let us not get our knickers in a twist over which came first, the chicken or the egg as spontaneous combustion seems the most likely circumstance...

Well, the whole point I was making is: it’s not theoretically possible for clients to “run” the escort industry moreso than a provider can.

Reason why, most clients dip their toes (and maybe other parts) into the biz only during the time they are seeking it. Whether that’s once a year or once a month. Meanwhile, we are in it daily and going along with the day to day intertwining of it all. 

If that weren’t the case, clients could simply just name our prices whenever they want.

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

2 hours ago, peter831 said:

I had a situation with another well reviewed provider on RM and on here. We had arranged an outcall a couple of days in advance and re-confirmed the day of. Then a couple of hours before the agreed time, he texts that he wants a deposit. I told him no and if he wanted a deposit he should have told me upfront so I could contact a different provider. That is total BS. 

It seems like some (providers) are going about the deposit thing all wrong. I can’t  speak for other guys but, you can’t book a session and then get a deposit at the time it starts. To me it defeats the whole point. You might as well wait and get the funds upfront.

The point of the deposit is to ensure you’re not giving out information about your location, or booking hotels/travel before actually solidifying the booking. If I were to go to Los Angeles, pay $300 for a hotel, and then get deposits: it would be a waste of energy because I’ve already spent the money at that point. 

[robberbaron4u]

2 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Well, the whole point I was making is: it’s not theoretically possible for clients to “run” the escort industry moreso than a provider can.

Reason why, most clients dip their toes (and maybe other parts) into the biz only during the time they are seeking it. Whether that’s once a year or once a month. Meanwhile, we are in it daily and going along with the day to day intertwining of it all. 

If that weren’t the case, clients could simply just name our prices whenever they want.

 

And, my point being that without clients there would be no demand for providers; no demand, no market.

[Jamie21]

41 minutes ago, robberbaron4u said:

And, my point being that without clients there would be no demand for providers; no demand, no market.

Always takes two to make a market: demand and supply. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, robberbaron4u said:

And, my point being that without clients there would be no demand for providers; no demand, no market.

Well that doesn’t take a hypothetical feat of reasoning to suggest. It happens all the time. As I’ve stated before, many small towns may not have any clients/escort either. 

 

32 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Always takes two to make a market: demand and supply. 

Right, and sometimes it’s not even that. Sometimes RentMen only reaches a limited market. It’s unfortunate that Grindr is as popular as it is, but refuses to allow its members to sell their services. The biz would likely be more volume if it were (though I don’t know if that would mean more profitable. Many Grindr meets only work if offering under 150/200). I’ve tested it out before, but I just don’t have the time to sit online 24/7 and respond to guys, send them my number, and sell. 
 

Sometimes it’s not about market this, buyer that, etc. It’s often about visibility. Options. Race. Wealth disparity. Personal beliefs and religion. 

Edited April 11 by Jarrod_Uncut

[DWnyc]

4 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

however a deposit is not negotiable.

for you maybe - and fine - clients and the market can respond 

but you can’t speak for the entire industry

the market doesn’t agree with you and the market usually doesn’t lie 

have lost count of how many providers have asked for a deposit, I’ve said no, and they’ve removed that “non negotiable” position either instantly or over time sometimes after a harsh exchange (by when I’m not going to hire them)

 

[DWnyc]

 

7 hours ago, JamesB said:

He requested a deposit once you were already in the hotel lobby, just before going up to his room? There was no mention of a deposit before that? That doesn't seem to make any sense.

Could be many things including a fake profile if he’s otherwise well known 

Rewuesting a deposit when you’re in the building or near isnt so surprising (not asking for it before is however) since the main purpose of the deposit for many asking for it isn’t to safeguard money / protect against no shows - no matter how passionately some try to present it that way 

[NJF]

9 hours ago, PileDriver said:

made a date yesterday, traveled 45 minutes on the NYC transit system to the provider's hotel. texted him i was in the lobby and was told i neeed to make a deposit. weird. and the deposit had to apple pay. no other options. lol. seriously. texted photos of the hotel lobby and was told i'm a time waster. sigh. 45 minute trip home. who's the time waster. then he had the nerve to text a tirade because i refused to pay the deposit. dear lord.and then a friend of his started texting me about how grotesque i am...a new low. 

This may be a new popular scam. I experienced a similar situation. The provider asked for a deposit before providing the room number when I was in the hotel lobby. I promptly left.