+ KensingtonHomo Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 22 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: Did you have to pay for sex in your 20s too ? I have never HAD to pay for sex, though I was offered several sex work jobs in my 20s, as a dancer and an escort. My guess is you don’t HAVE to pay either, but you choose to because a) you have a specific type that you’d find hard to get on an app and b) you’re busy and don’t want to invest the time. What I find odd about you and @marylander1940 is that you’re not happy to just hire guys and trade tips. You have to constantly berate other people’s tastes, bodies, interests, and desires. And now you’re on this whole DARVO (look it up) response with me, where you’re trying to cast me as the bad guy “gatekeeper” for calling out your shitty behavior. Hot4latin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 7 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: What’s “rare for clients?” We hire primarily for convenience. Sure we could spend hours on Grindr and Scruff where everyone is flakey, and then see if a guy we’re attracted to fits into our competing schedules. Oddly, we are most often approached on the apps by guys in their 20s. Since we’re not attracted to most of them because they tend to be immature and bad at sex (as were we all), it’s kind of pointless. I’m younger than PA, but not by much. My husband is older, but also not by much. We’re both good looking guys (he’s a Disney prince come to life) and in good shape. And we both enjoy a wide variety of types of men. Convenience and getting in most cases hot guys we can't get for free. Is he HWP? pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 20 hours ago, marylander1940 said: Handsome is a high standard! In shape not so much specially in the gay community! "Handsome" and "In Shape" are not mutually inclusive . There are many handsome men that are out of shape. And there are many in shape men that are ugly. This will undoubtedly confuse@marylander1940. (Tagged out of courtesy). The problem lies within the title of this thread. Some interpret the question as "Discounts for in shape AND good looking AND younger guys (must be all 3)" while others mean "Discounts for in shape OR good looking guys OR younger guys (need not be all 3)" Edited April 1 by Vegas_Millennial Your Man in Arlington, peter831, + KensingtonHomo and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 4 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Convenience and getting in most cases hot guys we can't get for free. Is he HWP? My husband is 6’1” and a lean 180. I’m a bit shorter and thicker with an ass most 25 year olds envy. The guys we can fuck for free are all hot and generally 15-20 years our junior. It seems to me that you and PA project both your narrow views of attractiveness AND your experience onto everyone on this forum. Maybe stop doing that. pubic_assistance, MikeBiDude and mike carey 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ APPLE1 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, marylander1940 said: Hold on.... Most young folks don't have the need to hire other young in shape men, they usually get plenty of them for free. Most clients aren't young, it's a fact! I had made a general statement about people hiring throughout life for a variety of reasons. You were the one who directly brought it back to youthful and in shape, yet again. there are none so blind as those who will not see [his own prejudices] Edited April 1 by APPLE1 Typo + KensingtonHomo and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 18 minutes ago, APPLE1 said: I had made a general statement about people hiring throughout life for a variety of reasons. You were the one who directly brought it back to youthful and in shape, yet again. there are none so blind as those who will not see [his own prejudices] That's the subject of this thread. Prejudices, preferences, or tastes, It's in the eyes of the beholder. We know what you said, you're repeating yourself again. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 It's interesting how some of these men are so brainwashed by Lesbian Equality Theory. "Looks don't matter"...."we are all beautiful"..."personality is everything you need". The.topic of the discussion is about clients who stand out, not a place to try and pretend we are all the same. Looks are very much important to men. It's how they are wired. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 11 hours ago, caramelsub said: Hiring is not just for people who can’t get any sex on their own. Of course. The question was directed at @KensingtonHomo He is claiming to be much more able to fuck a hottie in his mature years...so I thought maybe he had some ugly duckling years as a young man and learned to pay for sex early because he had to. Yes we are aware not everyone has to pay for sex. If you're ugly, you may lower your standards to fuck a dog...but the conversations here on C.o.M. will prove that instead, people would rather reach for their wallet and pay for company who meets their standards of physical beauty. So conversely, the question on this thread is whether that desire for physical beauty will get you a discount from your provider. If you ARE attractive and just hiring for convenience do escorts consider you more desirable and easier to get off ? My first ever hire was unplanned and I was in my 20s. I did offer to pay but afterwards the provider told me he had so much fun, I didn't need to pay him. He enjoyed himself as much as I did . (I did however pay him, as I was aware that this was his JOB.) We hooked up a few times after that. Off the clock. So yeah...in this case he not only discounted but didn't feel the need to charge at all because of my looks. Edited April 1 by pubic_assistance additional sentence caramelsub, 56harrisond and marylander1940 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: It's interesting how some of these men are so brainwashed by Lesbian Equality Theory. "Looks don't matter"...."we are all beautiful"..."personality is everything you need". The.topic of the discussion is about clients who stand out, not a place to try and pretend we are all the same. Looks are very much important to men. It's how they are wired. JFC, you sound like Tucker Carlson. There is no such thing as "Lesbian Equality Theory." If you're referring to Queer Theory, that also has nothing to do with "pretending we're all the same." Men are not "wired" in one particular way. This is you buying into a misogynistic lie propagated by patriarchal social norms that refer to what makes women sexually desirable, e.g., hip-to-breast ratio, relative youth, body fat distribution, etc. To the extent men are attracted to women based on those criteria, it's because they appear fertile and capable of carrying a pregnancy to term. There is no correlation for same-sex/gender desire. You're not attracted to a twunk because he's likely to become pregnant and have a viable pregnancy. This is like anti-trans people claiming we're attracted to chromosomes. Lotus-eater and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: The question was directed at @KensingtonHomo He is claiming to be much more able to fuck a hottie in his mature years...so I thought maybe he had some ugly duckling years as a young man and learned to pay for sex early because he had to. Girl, it would help if you spent more time with gay guys. Maybe you'd learn how to read and throw shade because this is weak tea. In your sad attempt to shade me, you have to go back in time to my twink days - imagine I was not desirable (rather than the reality that I was beating them off with a stick because I was very prudish due to HIV) - and then further ignore the reality that a significant percentage of younger men (20s to early 30s) are attracted to older men, hence all the "daddy" discourse and porn. + Vegas_Millennial, pubic_assistance and Lotus-eater 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viewing ownly Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 This thread is so long, it's gotten far too past the "girl, please" stage. It is up to the people making the initial offer, and nobody else, to determine in their mind what good looking and in shape is. It's not going to be the same from person to person, so it's best as a client to expect to donate as if you're not, and perhaps be pleasantly surprised at the end. Many work like Hell to look great from the neck down, and kudos to them. There's others that look dashing as all get out and never lift a weight in their life. Ideally, neither would qualify for this offer. I personally pity the ones who are both handsome and ripped, but are disqualified solely due to age. + BOZO T CLOWN, pubic_assistance, + Vegas_Millennial and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 For Christ's sake, this is a forum dedicated to men who pay or are paid by another man for some kind of sexual gratification. Complaining about a client's standards for attractiveness makes as much sense as getting angry at someone because you think they're too picky when buying ketchup at the grocery store. And please don't bring the LGBTQ community into this. I've belonged to some advocacy group since I was 19, and still, it's obvious that many, if not most, people in the community can be very shallow and selfish. If there even is such a community. MikeBiDude, pubic_assistance and + BOZO T CLOWN 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeBiDude Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Moderator note…I think the question has been discussed and opinions stated. Let’s lock it down. + DrownedBoy, Your Man in Arlington and peter831 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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