+ WilliamM Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, samhexum said: Daughter of Homer & Marge, sister of Bart & Lisa, granddaughter of Abe, niece of Patty & Selma And who Are they. Aren't they cartoon people like Mickey. Mouse musclestuduws and CuriousByNature 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, WilliamM said: Aren't they cartoon people like Mickey. Mouse What is wrong with you that you think Mickey Mouse is a person? He is a rodent. It's in his name, for crying out loud! Homer & Marge are people, like Fred & Wilma or Barney & Betty. musclestuduws, + WilliamM, + Pensant and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSR Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Her new look is a monumental improvement over last year's. To think, Madonna has all the money in the world to pay the most skilled plastic surgeon yet ended up looking like this ... pubic_assistance, samhexum and musclestuduws 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvwnsd Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 7:05 PM, Ali Gator said: Madonna premiered her new face for the Holidays in a series of photos of her with her family. The 65 year old's face doesn't match her hands. Her hands are holding a 'Madonna' Christmas ornament which looks more like her than the 'person'. Madonna shares a series of festive photos of her celebrating Christmas with her six children: 'Santa Babies' | Daily Mail Online WWW.DAILYMAIL.CO.UK The day after the holiday, the 65-year-old singer-songwriter took to Instagram to post a festive slideshow of her and her family enjoying the day... The poor dear must have had a reaction to the treatment she received when she was gravely ill a couple of months ago. samhexum and musclestuduws 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 3 hours ago, BSR said: Her new look is a monumental improvement over last year's. To think, Madonna has all the money in the world to pay the most skilled plastic surgeon yet ended up looking like this ... 7 hours ago, samhexum said: What is wrong with you that you think Mickey Mouse is a person? He is a rodent. It's in his name, for crying out loud! Homer & Marge are people, like Fred & Wilma or Barney & Betty. Try watching a bit less television Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, WilliamM said: Try watching a bit less television Try watching a bit more + Pensant, BSR, musclestuduws and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 6 hours ago, BSR said: Her new look is a monumental improvement over last year's. To think, Madonna has all the money in the world to pay the most skilled plastic surgeon yet ended up looking like this ... It could be worse... BSR and musclestuduws 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ jeezopete Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 musclestuduws, + Vegas_Millennial, BSR and 7 others 1 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 When I lived for years in coastal OC, I saw many tragic faces forever disfigured by grifter plastic surgeons. Perhaps they felt they were invisible pre-surgery. Post-surgery they regained visibility in a macabre way. They’d be better off with conservative Botox and filler. musclestuduws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pensant said: When I lived for years in coastal OC, I saw many tragic faces forever disfigured by grifter plastic surgeons. Perhaps they felt they were invisible pre-surgery. Post-surgery they regained visibility in a macabre way. They’d be better off with conservative Botox and filler. A wrinkle or two adds character. Here's a photo from my 47th birthday: thomas, + Pensant, pubic_assistance and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, CuriousByNature said: A wrinkle or two adds character. Here's a photo from my 47th birthday: Happy 47th birthday @CuriousByNature! You only look 107! Edited December 29, 2023 by musclestuduws CuriousByNature 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, musclestuduws said: Happy 47th birthday @CuriousByNature! You only look 107! I wish I was still 47... that was a couple of years ago. I have one or two more wrinkles now and look less youthful than that photo 🤣 musclestuduws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, CuriousByNature said: I wish I was still 47... that was a couple of years ago. I have one or two more wrinkles now and look less youthful than that photo 🤣 After that visual, strangely, I’m starting to find Madonna’s new face a little more appealing… 🤣 thomas, marylander1940 and CuriousByNature 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I wonder how she has handles decades and decades (and decades) of people talking about her look. It also amuses me how she manages to create so many conversations about it. Like I said in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s, I say in the 2020s: "You go, girl". marylander1940 and BigTom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, soloyo215 said: I wonder how she has handles decades and decades (and decades) of people talking about her look. It also amuses me how she manages to create so many conversations about it. Like I said in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s, I say in the 2020s: "You go, girl". Specially in the last decade of "social media" when everyone can pretend to be who they want to be and judge others in an online forum, twitter, etc. Most famous people simply don't care about what anonymous sources talk about them and use twitter to talk directly to their followers! musclestuduws and soloyo215 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 most of us have grown up w Madonna always there. She’s been a public figure for decades. As gay men, I think most of appreciate her very public positions always in favor of & working on behalf of our causes. Very few celebrities of her stature can claim the same legacy. That said, in a way we feel like we know her almost as relative because we’ve seen her life through all life stages, marriages, breakups, children, success, public adulation/revulsion. And like a sister, if I’m being honest…..love/hate her at times for whatever her latest antics. She’s been adored for her beauty, sex-appeal & glamour - it can’t be easy when age catches up and all the money in the world doesn’t stop the aging process. who can blame her for trying to keep it going just a bit longer ? She will be remembered as one of the most brilliant ground-breaking entertainers ever. Thats Madonna. How Madonna became the queen of all queens WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Never afraid of talking about sex, Madonna changed the way people perceived gay sex and vastly improved the lives of those having it by campaigning to publicise... + nycman, BigTom, pubic_assistance and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Specially in the last decade of "social media" when everyone can pretend to be who they want to be and judge others in an online forum, twitter, etc. Most famous people simply don't care about what anonymous sources talk about them and use twitter to talk directly to their followers! "Everyone" It is quite expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 12 hours ago, samhexum said: Try watching a bit more I read books Sam MikeBiDude, samhexum and marylander1940 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ purplekow Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Many people who have cosmetic surgery see the "imperfections" that others don't see even if they are pointed out. They start with small procedures and the small change eliminates one imperfection but highlights another and then so it goes. Smaller procedures become larger and more surgery ensues. There is a place for plastic surgery certainly. Defects are corrected, lives can be changed, function can be restored but cosmetic surgery to me is a hope for something beyond the physical. It is an attempt to turn back the clock which is an illusion even when cosmetically successful. thomas and musclestuduws 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 This is an excellent NYT piece re: Madonna’s cultural influence & activism - well worth the read if you haven’t seen it https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/15/opinion/madonna-career.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Take a Bow, Madonna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Honestly, I couldn’t care less what she looks like. Just having some innocent fun at her expense given her perplexing lack of self-awareness. I guess I’m disappointed, more than anything. I thought she would be smarter than this when it came to accept aging more gracefully. In any case, she’s free to have a million more plastic surgeries and turn herself into whatever she wants if that pleases her. I’m sure she won’t care at all what anybody else says, and rightly so. What has really turned me off is not her looks but her narcissistic personality. I read and heard countless stories from other celebrities and people who worked with her that showed again and again how incredibly self-centered and dismissive of anyone else she is. Not to mention the ridiculous aura of self-importance she exudes in her interviews, taking herself way too seriously. Loosen up, Madonna! She should learn a thing or two from the self-effacing, down to earth wisdom, and self-deprecating humor displayed by another gay icon like Cher. In stark contrast, Cher is way cooler and more relaxed. And obviously, Cher does know how to do a lot of plastic surgery right. 🤣 Edited December 29, 2023 by musclestuduws BSR, thomas and marylander1940 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Given her fame, it is not surprising that she has a big ego. I saw her at four her concerts in New York City and Philly to have fun.l And I saw her in the audience for Queen Latifa. Surprise that Madonna came with Liza Miinnelli and Liza's dad, Vincente Miinnelli soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 7 hours ago, purplekow said: Many people who have cosmetic surgery see the "imperfections" that others don't see even if they are pointed out. They start with small procedures and the small change eliminates one imperfection but highlights another and then so it goes. Smaller procedures become larger and more surgery ensues. There is a place for plastic surgery certainly. Defects are corrected, lives can be changed, function can be restored but cosmetic surgery to me is a hope for something beyond the physical. It is an attempt to turn back the clock which is an illusion even when cosmetically successful. I have told several friends who wanted to have a lifting or any other kind of procedure: "just be happy with being HWP because of a responsible lifestyle". It worked.... all of them never had the surgeries! musclestuduws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 10 hours ago, soloyo215 said: I wonder how she has handles decades and decades (and decades) of people talking about her look. It also amuses me how she manages to create so many conversations about it. Like I said in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s, I say in the 2020s: "You go, girl". "The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about." soloyo215, BSR, MikeBiDude and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 10 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: She will be remembered as one of the most brilliant ground-breaking entertainers ever. Seriously ? BSR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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