+ WilliamM Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 minute ago, pubic_assistance said: Seriously ? Perhaps she might be remembered for re inventing herself and her act musclestuduws 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ purplekow Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 11 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: She will be remembered as one of the most brilliant ground-breaking entertainers ever. Thats Madonna. Will she be thought of as ground breaking because by that time she will have had so much surgery she will look as though she rose up from a grave? BSR, liubit and musclestuduws 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Gator Posted December 30, 2023 Author Share Posted December 30, 2023 11 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: She will be remembered as one of the most brilliant ground-breaking entertainers ever. Thats Madonna. How Madonna became the queen of all queens WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Never afraid of talking about sex, Madonna changed the way people perceived gay sex and vastly improved the lives of those having it by campaigning to publicise... I sincerely doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: Seriously ? unless you've been living under a rock for the last 40 years. Yes, seriously You don't need to like her or her music to acknowledge her influence & activism and I’m not a huge fan of the music - there’s a difference: Madonna the artist vs Madonna as a cultural force to deny it is ridiculous - read the NYT piece, it’s all there Edited December 30, 2023 by SouthOfTheBorder BigTom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, purplekow said: Will she be thought of as ground breaking because by that time she will have had so much surgery she will look as though she rose up from a grave? She will be the Frankenstein of the 21st century! 🤣 Take that, Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley. Edited December 30, 2023 by musclestuduws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) Love RuPaul dishing Madonna. And Cumberbatch standing up to her. 🤣 BBC One - The Graham Norton Show, Series 29, Episode 20, RuPaul and Madonna go way back WWW.BBC.CO.UK RuPaul remembers encountering Madonna back in the early days of both of their careers. Edited December 30, 2023 by musclestuduws Marc in Calif, marylander1940 and thomas 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) Taking this slightly off subject.... This was posted years ago but I can't seem to find the thread to thank the original poster as I always do! Edited December 30, 2023 by marylander1940 musclestuduws, thomas and + jeezopete 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Taking this slightly off subject.... Please don’t hold back and tell us what you think, Patti! 🤣 yes, I had seen that (in)famous interview clip. Now that we’re on a roll, here are Messing and McCormack on Madonna’s guest appearance on “Will & Grace.” Enjoy. Marc in Calif, + jeezopete, thomas and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, WilliamM said: Perhaps she might be remembered for re inventing herself and her act I remember Madonna Ciccone for making a lot of money considering her minor talent as a singer. She has always surrounded herself with creative people who actually have talent. The production value of the shows reputedly make up for her limited vocal skills. Outside the environment of pyrotechnics, costume and choreography, the woman literally needed to take months of voice lessons to manage the film role of Evita Peron and even then, she embarrassed herself when paired against Antonio Banderas who's performance blew her out of the water (and no one even knew that Antonio could sing or dance, being known only as an actor) ! Edited December 30, 2023 by pubic_assistance grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said: I remember Madonna Ciccone for making a lot of money considering her minor talent as a singer. She has always surrounded herself with creative people who actually have talent. The production value of the shows reputedly make up for her limited vocal skills. Outside the environment of pyrotechnics, costume and choreography, the woman literally needed to take months of voice lessons to manage the film role of Evita Peron and even then, she embarrassed herself when paired against Antonio Banderas who's performance blew her out of the water (and no one even knew that Antonio could sing or dance, being known only as an actor) ! pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclestuduws Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 Cher on Madonna. Couldn’t resist. She nails it. thomas, rvwnsd, marylander1940 and 4 others 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Gator Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 Lupone is 100% correct. I've suffered through my share of 'Madonna' movies - including 'Evita'. She's awful. musclestuduws and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Madge's new face has egg all over it: Madonna Apologizes to Toronto for Saying 'Hello, Boston' marylander1940 and BSR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 12/31/2023 at 11:52 AM, Ali Gator said: Lupone is 100% correct. I've suffered through my share of 'Madonna' movies - including 'Evita'. She's awful. It was so sad. I know she wanted that role so bad and Antonio Banderas blew her out of the water in comparison. And we didn't even know that Antonio could sing or dance before Evita ! Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.anders Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I never knew Cher called Madonna the C-word until I saw the videos in this thread. Holy shit. That is outspoken, something you almost never see from Hollywood types. Also, for Cher to criticize Madonna's singing voice, that's a bit rich given how limited Cher's voice is. Still, hard not to love Cher. So many of us grew up with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc in Calif Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/19/2024 at 6:22 PM, pubic_assistance said: It was so sad. I know she wanted that role so bad and Antonio Banderas blew her out of the water in comparison. And we didn't even know that Antonio could sing or dance before Evita ! Speak for yourself! 😊 Evita premiered in 1996. But plenty of people at that time remembered him singing in both "Mambo Kings" (1990) and "Desperado" (1995). Banderas doesn't consider himself a great singer, but what he does on the screen is pretty great for "only an actor." He sang on Broadway in Nine in 2003. He's also sung on stage in Spain in some musicals. "I love singing, but I love singing attached to some dramatic purpose—not as a pop singer," the 63-year-old explained. "I'm not a pop singer. I like to tell a story when I'm singing and that is something that you can do in musical theater." marylander1940 and BSR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramelsub Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, d.anders said: I never knew Cher called Madonna the C-word until I saw the videos in this thread. Holy shit. That is outspoken, something you almost never see from Hollywood types. Also, for Cher to criticize Madonna's singing voice, that's a bit rich given how limited Cher's voice is. Still, hard not to love Cher. So many of us grew up with her. Cher is an alto so her voice is lower in range, and deeper but has a great tone. I don’t think Madonna has a great singing voice. It’s not bad, but just passable. If anyone’s voice is limited I would say it’s Madonna’s. DWsoccer, Marc in Calif, marylander1940 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Every female singer wants to channel Ethel Merman in "Gypsy." Except Gwen Verden and Mary Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) Obviously this is a picture of her face during the summer before it was fixed for the holidays Picture removed because @jeezopete previously posted it in the previous page. Edited February 8 by marylander1940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramelsub Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 She probably had swelling from a facelift, and needed time for it to go down. Hence why she looks better in more recent pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 just my opinion, but I think denigrating people based on looks is always in poor taste & shows a certain ignorance. especially when it’s men discussing women who are aging in a very public environment as they say, beauty fades - but stupid is forever mike carey, + BenjaminNicholas and BSR 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramelsub Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 41 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: just my opinion, but I think denigrating people based on looks is always in poor taste & shows a certain ignorance. especially when it’s men discussing women who are aging in a very public environment as they say, beauty fades - but stupid is forever It kind of comes with the territory of being a public figure. Madonna is a celebrity. I don’t think she deserves to be ridiculed. But people will always comment about famous celebrities’ looks male or female. marylander1940 and BSR 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 42 minutes ago, caramelsub said: It kind of comes with the territory of being a public figure. Madonna is a celebrity. I don’t think she deserves to be ridiculed. But people will always comment about famous celebrities’ looks male or female. True, I guess. Madonna does not deserve this level of ridicule SouthOfTheBorder and BigTom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthOfTheBorder Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, caramelsub said: But people will always comment about famous celebrities’ looks male or female. let’s be realistic - it far more often women than men. And usually it’s about a woman’s weight and/or age. There is no equivalency between cultural critiques of looks re: men/woman. It’s a relic of the patriarchy and just shows whomever is participating is probably much older, out- of-touch w norms today & ignorant. 1 hour ago, caramelsub said: But people will always comment about famous celebrities’ looks male or female. definitely, bc there will always be very stupid people engaged in very dumb things…….. haven’t you heard, Taylor Swift is a CIA asset ??? BSR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, WilliamM said: True, I guess. Madonna does not deserve this level of ridicule 4 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: just my opinion, but I think denigrating people based on looks is always in poor taste & shows a certain ignorance. especially when it’s men discussing women who are aging in a very public environment as they say, beauty fades - but stupid is forever It's an anonymous forum where we mostly talk about escorts. We're glad to see some today are taking the high road. Edited February 8 by marylander1940 + WilliamM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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