Rentmen made newer and tougher rules for advertising providers

[SometimesBi]

Is this forum site based in the US? If not, might it be in the best position to create an alternative to rentmen? 🤔 

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

5 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Their annual revenue is 15 million. Not exactly a FAANG. And they're not publicly traded.

Really? And since they are a private company that is not required to release its financials, what is your source for this?
And even if it is true (which I don't accept without proof), its revenue is meaningless without knowing expenses. Rentmen.com has all kinds of expenses including staff, staff benefits, insurance, taxes, legal, rent, advertising, etc.

Unfortunately, the only way competition is possible is if some court ruling legalized U.S. prostitution.  There's 0% chance SCOTUS will do that.

Wrong.
Rentmen.com is a Dutch based company. Anyone with the desire, the vision, and a few bucks in his pocket can do a start-up. Just move offshore (the Cayman Islands for instance).

It's already been pointed out that the U.S. is using RM to crack down on visiting providers. They're already getting a fire lit under their ass. Making a competing platform would be too financially risky.

I haven't seen any evidence that the US is using RM to crack down on visiting providers. Can you provide some that is NOT anecdotal?
And even if that was true (which I don't accept without proof), the percentage of US providers that are international visitors is tiny. Keeping them off the site would have a minimal effect on the company's P & L.

The shutdown of RB mainly backfired on the Feds. The judge herself said it was unwarranted , the NYT accused Homeland Security of homophobia, and the agent who leveled the case is now in private practice. However, the political climate has changed, and that creates a chilling affect. Everyone knows that they're going after transsexuals only as a door into returning to the legal gay bashing of the past."

"The shutdown of RB mainly backfired on the Feds"
Au Contraire. It succeeded in everything the administration at that time sought to accomplish. It shut down Rentboy. That was their goal. It also negotiated a guilty plea and jail time for Rentboy founder, Jeffrey Hurant.
Mission Accomplished!

"Everyone knows that they are going after transsexuals only as a door into returning to the legal gay bashing of the past"
"Everyone knows"? Really?
Is limiting female intramural sports competition to ONLY biological females considered "Going after transsexuals"?
Is asking people to pay for their own puberty blockers and gender transitioning surgery rather than the taxpayers footing the bill for it considered "going after transsexuals"?
Is asking that parents be notified in advance before their children are sent to "Drag Queen Story Hour" considered "going after transsexuals"?
Considering the overwhelming majority of Americans are in favor of these rules, and these are Americans from all demographics and walks-of-life, I find no basis for your conclusion.

I'd start looking for an alternative just to be safe. If MAGAites started attacking RM publicly in this political climate,  the company might end up shutting down.

"MAGAites"? Really? It's the MAGAites? 
You stated that "the US is using RM to crack down on visiting providers". Last time that I checked, Joe Biden was living in the White House. He is in charge and he appoints all US attorneys. Is Joe Biden a MAGAite?
You brought up the issue of the government shutdown of Rentboy. That shutdown occurred in 2015, during the administration of Barack Obama. Is Barack Obama a MAGAite?
The criminal case against Jeffrey Hurant, Rentboy founder, was carried out by an Obama-appointed federal attorney in New York's Eastern District.. Was he also a MAGAite?
The 6-month jail plea to the charge of promoting prostitution by Jeffrey Hurant was approved by Judge Margo Brodie. An Obama-appointed Judge. Is she also a MAGAite?

BoZo

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN

[+ José Soplanucas]

Indeed, it is an excellent example of Capitalism—a monopoly running with no competition. It was not hard to predict this would happen. That is why when I was still hiring in the US, I did everything I could (very little) to support new companies that could rise to be their competition. They didn't.

[+ DrownedBoy]

3 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

 

Google is your friend. All this information is available if you know where to look for it.

Now please excuse me as I add you to my blocked list. I put up with enough lazy dimwits at work, and don't need to waste my free time doing so here.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

21 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Google is your friend. All this information is available if you know where to look for it.

Now please excuse me as I add you to my blocked list. I put up with enough lazy dimwits at work, and don't need to waste my free time doing so here.

To be clear, you post a bunch allegations, all either baseless or patently false.....

When Bozo called you out on it, using both facts and asking for substantiation of your unsupported claims......

Your response was to call me a lazy dimwit, and block me.....

Poor Bozo 

BoZo

Edited October 2, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN

[Decatur Guy]

One silver lining to this: Maybe it will force some providers to have more thoughtful and informative write-ups instead dashing off a couple of lines and then posting some pictures. I know this is a very visual market, but I value what a provider has to say equally with what he looks like. And I value the general photos as much as the nude ones. I realize I am most likely in the minority on that.

I pay the premium membership, so I've noticed no changes. And I posted a review last week with no issue. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Decatur Guy

[marylander1940]

3 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

While the above information is interesting, it does not discuss the main issue of the problem with rentmen. 

The issue is that rentmen made severe changes to the way the site now works for providers and clients.   

While it is true the pricing seems inconsistent, pricing is not the issue.  Pricing is merely part of a bigger problem with the rentmen site.

Rentmen has made MAJOR changes to its site for advertisers and for forum users unrelated to pricing.  

Rentmen removed all photos of paying advertisers (providers) if those photos contain any genitalia showing in a photo. 

The pricing issue is merely a comical inconsistency whereby rentmen charges different prices for the same product, which is merely an inconsistency. 

Let us not lose the substance of this thread, that is, rentmen severely changed its site removing all photos of providers that have photos showing genitalia.  That is the main substance. 

The pricing is a comical act of incompetence on the part of rentmen but not the basis of this thread.  

I think their behavior is a money grab as I said previously but I wonder if they're also doing it to make sure underage folks can't see those pictures or at least that's their excuse to only allow "premium members" to see X-rated pics. 

Should we feel bad or jealous about the intern who had to check thousands of xxx rated pics to remove them?

Edited October 2, 2023 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

13 minutes ago, Decatur Guy said:

One silver lining to this: Maybe it will force some providers to have more thoughtful and informative write-ups instead dashing off a couple of lines and then posting some pictures. I know this is a very visual market, but I value what a provider has to say equally with what he looks like. And I value the general photos as much as the nude ones. I realize I am most likely in the minority on that.

I pay the premium membership, so I've noticed no changes. And I posted a review last week with no issue. 

Good point but I guarantee you most potential clients don't read profiles and sometimes can't even figure out location, etc. 

[NJF]

19 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

You pay the premium membership and noticed no changes!

The entire site has changed. 

 

All photos of providers that formerly showed pubic areas of providers are now deleted.  That is a major change to the site which is quite obvious to all who look at the current rentmen forum.  

"no changes" = = = = = = = =

It seems that rear view of naked body is fine. Is this a ploy to favor bottom providers?

[Decatur Guy]

Maybe this will all catch up to me at any minute. But as of 4 p.m. ET Monday, I can still see full frontal in public pics. Private pics are still a thing in some profiles. And I can access videos. I'm on a premium membership at $19.95 (which is a recent big increase; I've also had an issue a couple of times with the credit card not going through).

And please don't shout at me in boldfaced, enlarged type. I'm just reporting what I can see at the current time and what has been happening in my account. I'm not responsible for these decisions, the mess ups at RM or anyone's frustrations over them happening.

Perhaps by tomorrow, it will be different on my screen. It's hardly the first time in the history of the internet that different people in different places on different browsers and on different plans see different things. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by Decatur Guy

[TorontoDrew]

Maybe it's just a US thing.  Here in Toronto a number of the profile photes have erections in them.  They aren't buried in private photos.

[+ DynamicUno]

1 hour ago, Decatur Guy said:

Maybe this will all catch up to me at any minute. But as of 4 p.m. ET Monday, I can still see full frontal in public pics. Private pics are still a thing in some profiles. And I can access videos. I'm on a premium membership at $19.95 (which is a recent big increase; I've also had an issue a couple of times with the credit card not going through).

And please don't shout at me in boldfaced, enlarged type. I'm just reporting what I can see at the current time and what has been happening in my account. I'm not responsible for these decisions, the mess ups at RM or anyone's frustrations over them happening.

Perhaps by tomorrow, it will be different on my screen. It's hardly the first time in the history of the internet that different people in different places on different browsers and on different plans see different things. 

If you're on a paid account, I think you can see the premium album photos automatically.  I think the thumbnails might have a fire icon in lower corner, but they aren't otherwise distinguished.  That's different from the private album(s), which I think show up with a lock icon of you don't have access.

So basically the cock pics haven't been "deleted" as another user claimed, they've been regulated to a category you can only see with paid client account.

Personally, I think this move devalues the advertising benefit to RMs main customers, the escorts.  The photos that show their most enticing attributes are now hidden from a huge segment of their potential customers, so it's possible that they will see a substantial drop in contacts.  I don't think there was any regulatory justification, unless getting clients to pay is a proxy for age verification.  We can only speculate since RM hasn't communicated about the changes.

 

[blck37]

IMO, rather pay premium and got automatic access to premium (nude) pics than having to ask to be granted access to private album....which in my experience often got ignored, even when request is accompanied with short private messg explaining the request.

For me only ads showing goods will be considered....its always awkward to ask providers to share frontal pics privately on WA (especially if its turn out that am not interested with the goods after viewing).

[Cooper]

Administrator’s Note

A good discussion but be careful about bringing politics into the discussion. 

[Your Man in Arlington]

1 hour ago, DynamicUno said:

If you're on a paid account, I think you can see the premium album photos automatically.  I think the thumbnails might have a fire icon in lower corner, but they aren't otherwise distinguished. 

This is exactly what I see on my paid account.

On another note: I'm happy to be on a paid plan if it lets advertisers know that I'm at least $9.95/mo (my current rate) more serious.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Your Man in Arlington
Slight terminoligy update.

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Your Man in Arlington said:

On another note: I'm happy to be on a paid plan if it lets advertisers know that I'm at least $9.95/mo (my current rate) more serious.

Winner 🏆 What you said is absolutely true!

[Guest]

56 minutes ago, Cooper said:

Administrator’s Note

A good discussion but be careful about bringing politics into the discussion. 

 

[+ DynamicUno]

Just now, Vin_Marco said:

 

"Fight fucking" could be a new service niche.  I know some guys like full submission wrestling...

[Luv2play]

3 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

You pay the premium membership and noticed no change?

The entire site has been changed.  

 

All photos of providers that formerly showed pubic areas of providers are now deleted.  That is a major change to the site which is quite obvious to all who look at the current rentmen forum.  

"no changes" = = = = = = = =

This is bullshit. Nothing has changed for premium clients. I just checked and saw an erect dick dripping in cum. Lovely sight and good promotion for the provider. Lol.

[TorontoDrew]

2 hours ago, TorontoDrew said:

Maybe it's just a US thing.  Here in Toronto a number of the profile photos have erections in them.  They aren't buried in private photos.

I have a premium account so I thought I'd check.  I signed out to have a look and yes, all the dicks are gone.  The profile pics are now dickless 😞.

A dumb change in my mind but it's their call.

[TorontoDrew]

Checked out Hunqz and Friendboy.  I'll keep using Rentmen.  Flawed as it may be it's the best we have.

[Luv2play]

13 minutes ago, TorontoDrew said:

Checked out Hunqz and Friendboy.  I'll keep using Rentmen.  Flawed as it may be it's the best we have.

The point is that if you are a premium client, as I am, paying $9.90 a month, nothing has changed as far as I can see. All the nude pictures including erect penises are still there. And I can post reviews to my heart's content. Nothing to get exercised about. 

[caramelsub]

I was thinking that it could be rentmen wants to protect themselves against law enforcement monitoring the nude photographs. If you think about it, having to pay for a premium membership is an extra hurdle and would make it harder for law enforcement to prosecute escorts and rentmen itself if there is no nudity. Plus rentmen sometimes verifies it’s premium memberships I think. So that’s my theory, I believe rentmen wants to cover themselves, not necessarily for more money.

Edited October 3, 2023 by caramelsub

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Does this mean you can again see the type of nude photo that were there before the change was made?

In the U.S., all such photos are gone despite having a premium account.  

Out of our control, ( providers ) all explicit images have been put into premium photo albums that only premium clients can see. People who already paid to be premium clients wouldn't notice the difference.

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, TorontoDrew said:

I have a premium account so I thought I'd check.  I signed out to have a look and yes, all the dicks are gone.  The profile pics are now dickless 😞.

A dumb change in my mind but it's their call.

we should all contact RM and complain!