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6 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Thanks.  Even though I have a premium account, my photos are all blocked.  Maybe it just takes time for the transition to complete. 

How odd, the post just before your (Toronto drew) says his photos are gone.  

Like I said, maybe it just takes time for the transition to complete.  

In the meantime, rentmen caused a lot of confusion for their loyal provider customers and loyal clients.  

 

I would write them and explain to them that you're a premium member yet you can't see the explicit images.  The webmaster(s) have always been pretty good about getting back to me relatively fast.

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6 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Thanks.  Even though I have a premium account, my photos are all blocked.  Maybe it just takes time for the transition to complete. 

How odd, the post just before your (Toronto drew) says his photos are gone.  

Like I said, maybe it just takes time for the transition to complete.  

In the meantime, rentmen caused a lot of confusion for their loyal provider customers and loyal clients.  

 

When I'm signed in I see them.  It was only when signed out they diappeared.

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This is what they have done without notifying me. I didn't move those seven explicit photos into a "premium" gallery . It was done by RM: 

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2 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Usually there is a reason for doing something like that without asking your permission.  

Maybe they are still working on getting the site like they want it.   That could be the reason for the goofy system errors.  

I am concerned that the blocked nude photos that will not appear on my screen might stay that way.

I realize RM could make a lot of money from clients with the extra $240 annually.  I also realize that many providers cannot afford to pay the increased provider advertising price demanded by RM for providers to advertise on the forum.  

They wanted to increase their revenue.... to see explicit photos they charge a premium. 
 

I wrote them when it was brought to my attention that people with non-premium accounts could no longer see my nudes and this was the webmasters response: 

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10 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

we should all contact RM and complain!

Just to be clear, a non-paying member like yourself, who still has ability to browse escorts personal profiles for FREE, unlimited ability to send and receive DM's from escorts for FREE, and can get a FREE Rentmen.com Personal Page, is going to call up Rentmen and complain that in addition to all of those free benefits, you also want to be able to view X-rated for free?  lmfao.
When they stop laughing, and put your profile into the "Entitled Freeloaders" folder, please report back to us.

BoZo

 

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45 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Just to be clear, a non-paying member like yourself, who still has ability to browse escorts personal profiles for FREE, unlimited ability to send and receive DM's from escorts for FREE, and can get a FREE Rentmen.com Personal Page, is going to call up Rentmen and complain that in addition to all of those free benefits, you also want to be able to view X-rated for free?  lmfao.
When they stop laughing, and put your profile into the "Entitled Freeloaders" folder, please report back to us.

BoZo

 

As a non-paying member (I cancelled my subscription when they tried to raise the rate to $19.95/mo), I don't care if I'm able to see the dick pics or not.  A lot of members apparently have made the same decision. 

If I were an escort paying to advertise on the site, the number of potential clients able to see my assets is key to the value of that ad to my business.  I would be pissed if RM made an arbitrary change sharply reducing the number people who can see the photos most likely to result in a lead. 

They already reduced number of client subscribers by trying to double the rates. It's also now harder to start a new subscription because they only take MC or Bitcoin for payment methods so the number of paid subscriptions should be slow to recover.

The problem is that they devalued the ads for the escorts without any notice, so they are paying the same rate for an ad that will likely generate fewer leads.  There doesn't seem to be any regulatory reason for this change, except for maybe using the ability to pay as a proxy for age gating member accounts. I don't see RM getting into Apple/Google app store ecosystems either.  

 

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2 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Just to be clear, a non-paying member like yourself, who still has ability to browse escorts personal profiles for FREE, unlimited ability to send and receive DM's from escorts for FREE, and can get a FREE Rentmen.com Personal Page, is going to call up Rentmen and complain that in addition to all of those free benefits, you also want to be able to view X-rated for free?  lmfao.
When they stop laughing, and put your profile into the "Entitled Freeloaders" folder, please report back to us.

BoZo

 

I guess you like the new rules. Fortunately, you as a paying member can watch videos of sodomy etc. I personally don't care about those short videos. Possibly RM's next money grab step will be only premium members like you being able to filter if escorts have tattoos, circumcision, etc.

I don't care about short amateur videos, and I like the fact that only paying members can watch them and specially post reviews on profiles. 

I'm surprised you can't tell a money grab right away. 

I'm just concern about escorts who from now we'll have to engage in endless texting sending X-rated pics that before where right in the ad to potential clients. 

I'm still amazed about folks who pay $9.95 a month somehow feeling that entitles them to look down on others, especially considering most folks don't want to pay because they don't want to have their CC on a site like that. 

 

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8 minutes ago, DynamicUno said:

As a non-paying member (I cancelled my subscription when they tried to raise the rate to $19.95/mo), I don't care if I'm able to see the dick pics or not.  A lot of members apparently have made the same decision. 

If I were an escort paying to advertise on the site, the number of potential clients able to see my assets is key to the value of that ad to my business.  I would be pissed if RM made an arbitrary change sharply reducing the number people who can see the photos most likely to result in a lead. 

They already reduced number of client subscribers by trying to double the rates. It's also now harder to start a new subscription because they only take MC or Bitcoin for payment methods so the number of paid subscriptions should be slow to recover.

The problem is that they devalued the ads for the escorts without any notice, so they are paying the same rate for an ad that will likely generate fewer leads.  There doesn't seem to be any regulatory reason for this change, except for maybe using the ability to pay as a proxy for age gating member accounts. I don't see RM getting into Apple/Google app store ecosystems either.  

 

As @caramelsub stated in an earlier post, it is possible, or even probable, that the switch to having X-rated material visible to only Premium members was as a result of legal action, or threat of legal action being taken against them. Or it could be to increase their profits. Either way, both reasons are legitimate. 

And anyone who calls this business decision a "money grab" has absolutely no concept of what a money grab is. For example, I am a member of numerous hotel, airline, and rental car elite membership groups. These companies are constantly changing their rules regarding freebies, upgrades, points, etc.  Rarely, if ever, are these changes made to the benefit of the member. It happens everywhere all the time. It is not a money grab. It is a business decision. Get over it already!

BoZo

 

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3 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

As @caramelsub stated in an earlier post, it is possible, or even probable, that the switch to having X-rated material visible to only Premium members was as a result of legal action, or threat of legal action being taken against them. Or it could be to increase their profits. Either way, both reasons are legitimate. 

And anyone who calls this business decision a "money grab" has absolutely no concept of what a money grab is. For example, I am a member of numerous hotel, airline, and rental car elite membership groups. These companies are constantly changing their rules regarding freebies, upgrades, points, etc.  Rarely, if ever, are these changes made to the benefit of the member. It happens everywhere all the time. It is not a money grab. It is a business decision. Get over it already!

BoZo

 

You completely ignored my point. I'm not saying it's a "cash grab", nor am I complaining about the level of access my free account affords.

I am saying that if I were an escort paying to advertise, this change drastically changes the value of that much more expensive ad.  Far fewer people can see the photos most likely to generate a lead.  For RM to make that change without any notice or explanation is a huge disservice to their key customer base.

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50 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

As @caramelsub stated in an earlier post, it is possible, or even probable, that the switch to having X-rated material visible to only Premium members was as a result of legal action, or threat of legal action being taken against them. Or it could be to increase their profits. Either way, both reasons are legitimate. 

And anyone who calls this business decision a "money grab" has absolutely no concept of what a money grab is. For example, I am a member of numerous hotel, airline, and rental car elite membership groups. These companies are constantly changing their rules regarding freebies, upgrades, points, etc.  Rarely, if ever, are these changes made to the benefit of the member. It happens everywhere all the time. It is not a money grab. It is a business decision. Get over it already!

BoZo

 

I've pointed that too and you missed it! 

 

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I am sad to hear about this change, both for providers who have extra work, and the clients who will stop hiring because of it.

 

I'm weird, in that I'm not too interested in dick pics. I don't bottom. If they want me to take them in my mouth, it's actually easier if they're shorter, so I can deep throat without gagging. Hope that isn't too much information.

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15 hours ago, Vin_Marco said:

This is what they have done without notifying me. I didn't move those seven explicit photos into a "premium" gallery . It was done by RM: 

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As you can see, the first vid’s opening frame still image is not blurred. In fact, when See More is activated, the two first vids in the collection do not have the still image blurred out. It is only when All Videos is activated that all of the opening frame still images, including the first two, are blurred out.

Therefore, as a Basic Client I detect that I have seen a few robust erections (or other more x-rated images) sometimes one and sometimes two, likely by accident and not design, as the Escort (I believe whether he has either Basic or Gold status) simply coincidentally had that representation at the very opening of a vid scene. Obviously, if done by design some tweaking may be necessary given the vid dimensions on the platform. Also mindful of dimming features relative to your baseline still, and the positioning of the encircled play button relative to the image content. 

Or simply create a video with the desired opening play frame. 

Actually, a video of any length can be created from a still photo. Using iPhone video feature that screenshoots, or iMovie. Again, the position and framing strategy applies. This may amount to a potential workaround that the site may sabotage and eventually blur out according to their agenda. Or perhaps they will sort out such content with their human assessment team or AI, whatever method is being employed. In which case the one or two videos with which you aim for stealth mode would be deployed lower in the video cluster, if not an across-the-board blurring for all advertisers’ vid collection.

Actually, one’s second video exclusively depicting the desired image might be most applicable strategically because the hall monitors would need to engage the See More step. 

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12 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

As @caramelsub stated in an earlier post, it is possible, or even probable, that the switch to having X-rated material visible to only Premium members was as a result of legal action, or threat of legal action being taken against them. Or it could be to increase their profits. Either way, both reasons are legitimate. 

And anyone who calls this business decision a "money grab" has absolutely no concept of what a money grab is. For example, I am a member of numerous hotel, airline, and rental car elite membership groups. These companies are constantly changing their rules regarding freebies, upgrades, points, etc.  Rarely, if ever, are these changes made to the benefit of the member. It happens everywhere all the time. It is not a money grab. It is a business decision. Get over it already!

BoZo

 

I’m not a fan nor have a particular phobia of clowns (though I couldn’t watch IT movie alone, and another on Netflix that was terrifying) but: you’re giving the right language, in an understanding tone. Definitely giving a benevolent, Ronald McDonald 🤡 🍔 vibes right now 😀 

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14 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

I am sad to hear about this change, both for providers who have extra work, and the clients who will stop hiring because of it.

 

I'm weird, in that I'm not too interested in dick pics. I don't bottom. If they want me to take them in my mouth, it's actually easier if they're shorter, so I can deep throat without gagging. Hope that isn't too much information.

Well, idk I just don’t think it’s going to necessarily be a huge blow. I mean: I get booked on RentMasseur probably more than, if not the same as RentMen, at least in my region.

RentMen in some markets has just become a lot of amateurs showing nudity, almost giving it a trashy look. I used to really be proponent of allowing the nudes but: considering the fact that my pictures on RentM were more inclusive than RentMasseur, and people were still hitting me up saying they seen me on RentMasseur (though I think some may say that as an euphemism to just saying RentMen…) Especially since many will say, “I seen you on Rent, or I seen you on RM” well which RentM did you see me on, so I know which one! lol. 
 

Thing with RentMasseur: seems many of the ones contacting, don’t read the profile tabs. Rates are allowed, yet there’s steadily people contacting asking how much. And the requests are often vague. At the same time, RentMen hasn’t been getting me the level of bookings I was used to. Seems the serious hiring from there, has really dropped off since the start of summer. 
 

That’s why it’s always good to be 1 step ahead of the platform. I already have my website and biz cards, so if ever something changes again: I have a backup source. And if I didn’t have that, I’d be using other strategies. 

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Suggestion for the sex workers. Venting may help release some pressure but it is not going to solve the issue. Are you trying to get organized? Are you fighting for decriminalization? Are you considering a non for profit to provide education, networking, health and social services, legal counseling, etc., to sex workers? Are you considering an association to open an advertising website as a public service and not a company based on greed? 

Otherwise, you can continue venting. 

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1 hour ago, José Soplanucas said:

Suggestion for the sex workers. Venting may help release some pressure but it is not going to solve the issue. Are you trying to get organized? Are you fighting for decriminalization? Are you considering a non for profit to provide education, networking, health and social services, legal counseling, etc., to sex workers? Are you considering an association to open an advertising website as a public service and not a company based on greed? 

Otherwise, you can continue venting. 

I know an escort who emailed him about it and never got a reply.

They should all complain about it! Only allowing premium members to see pictures of their 🍆 will hurt their business! 

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14 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

Suggestion for the sex workers. Venting may help release some pressure but it is not going to solve the issue. Are you trying to get organized? Are you fighting for decriminalization? Are you considering a non for profit to provide education, networking, health and social services, legal counseling, etc., to sex workers? Are you considering an association to open an advertising website as a public service and not a company based on greed? 

Otherwise, you can continue venting. 

RentBoy did a decent job of organizing.  Look what happened to it.

That Homeland Security bust was so absurd. It was less an arrest than union busting. 

 

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16 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

The provider did not mention the fact that in addition to having to spend extra time sending photos back to clients who respond to the provider's ad, the provider failed to mention the fact that most clients may not even bother to contact him because of the missing photos.  This equates to missed income for the provider.  

The decision to remove the full porno photos is a slap-in-the-face to providers who have been loyal to rentmen and who advertised on their rentmen site over the years.  

No question at all, the decision to delete the porno photos will come back to rentmen losing a substantial amount of provider advertising income. 

  

And don't you forget about folks who don't even have a membership.

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8 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

RentBoy did a decent job of organizing.  Look what happened to it.

That Homeland Security bust was so absurd. It was less an arrest than union busting. 

 

You have probably never fought for anything. You cannot quite just because you failed once, or twice, or many times. Look at any significant gain any minority has achieved. How long did it take? How many defeats became lessons? 

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On 10/1/2023 at 11:25 AM, Vin_Marco said:

It's a racket lol they ( RM ) makes money off content we ( providers ) have to pay to upload, and charge you ( clients ) more money to see.... 

@coriolis888

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