coriolis888 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Rentmen is the largest provider advertising site in the U.S. and Canada. Most of us already know that Rentmen recently put in new rules that require a fee from non advertisers (clients) in order to send in a review about an experience with a hired provider. The fee is $240 yearly to rentmen, not to a provider. This requirement of paying rentmen a fee to write a review does potential harm to clients and providers who use Rentmen because of the inability to warn other clients (via reviews) of good or bad experiences from a provider. Moreover, there are some providers with fake photos and other dishonest claims advertising their services on rentmen. Unless a client is willing to come up with $240 per year to give to rentmen, no review is allowed about the encounter between the client and the provider. For the $240, a client is allowed to write reviews and watch some sort of animated video that are free on many world-wide sites. Now we have a new strange requirement set up by rentmen. I was advised by someone I know who advertises on rentmen that all advertisement photos that show any genitalia in the advertisement photos must be removed. Such a requirement is bound to have a negative effect on providers who pay rentmen to advertise on their site. Rentmen is making many negative rules for both their advertising clients and the readers of rentmen who pay to hire the providers paying rentmen. I realize everyone wants to make money, however, the changes made by rentmen seem like a one-way street in favor of only rentmen. If this disclosure has already been made elsewhere on the site, please excuse the repeat. I cannot find any other mention of this travesty. soloyo215, + Pensant, arnie and 3 others 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surferguy Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 They are also requiring a paid membership in order to request access to the private photos. novaman, TopBunk and kyleham 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, surferguy said: They are also requiring a paid membership in order to request access to the private photos. Not even "private" photos! They, not me, put my explicit pics ( dick, flaccid and hard ) into a "premium" section without even notifying me! Don't be surprised if this doesn't give rise to new competition that's less GREEDY. 🤞🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA90046 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Eagerly awaiting Danny's insight on this matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I feel bad for people just starting out, who really do have to rely on advertising sites. I felt the same way when Rentboy went down. I had friends at the time ( providers ) freaking out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA90046 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 ...and I was not disappointed. It sounds like someone at RM is going for a cash grab at the expense of both providers and clients. Calls to mind when OF decided to ban “sexually explicit” content -- and reversed course within days. I cannot imagine these changes will stick without a mass exodus of both providers and clients. 1 minute ago, Vin_Marco said: Not even "private" photos! They, not me, put my explicit pics ( dick, flaccid and hard ) into a "premium" section without even notifying me! Don't be surprised if this doesn't give rise to new competition that's less GREEDY. 🤞🏽 Hotmenloved and maninsoma 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, LA90046 said: Eagerly awaiting Danny's insight on this matter... I hate to say it, but they got greedy. They charge to see our videos, but do not compensate the creators of that content. Now they've gone too far. They know they can get away with it at least for now because generally speaking, they're kind of the only real lemonade stand in the desert and they don't really have formidable competition and that becomes a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 It's at least crossed my mind to get back into the adult business and has for years. I've met with people about this very subject but the truth is with the political miasma this country is in, the legalities of operating a US based advertising site would be nothing short of a NIGHTMARE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamPoundAss Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 It could be they’re going to go for releasing an app in the Apple AppStore. If I’m not mistaken, Apple doesn’t allow nudity in public profile photos, and only allows it in private albums. Jarrod_Uncut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokomaru Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, RamPoundAss said: It could be they’re going to go for releasing an app in the Apple AppStore. If I’m not mistaken, Apple doesn’t allow nudity in public profile photos, and only allows it in private albums. Seems like a plausible possibility. But I’m not sure what the point would be. You can easily create a shortcut on your Home Screen and it then functions separately from your browser, like an app. If going into the Apple App Store they’d have to give Apple 30% of in app purchases. I agree with others. The new policies read as a cash grab. peter831 and kyleham 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamPoundAss Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, Bokomaru said: Seems like a plausible possibility. But I’m not sure what the point would be. You can easily create a shortcut on your Home Screen and it then functions separately from your browser, like an app. If going into the Apple App Store they’d have to give Apple 30% of in app purchases. I agree with others. The new policies read as a cash grab. They might think that more visibility will grow the subscriber base substantially, at least in certain markets. I kind of think it’s a market that finds it on its own, but maybe not, especially in certain countries where the internet may be censored. Bokomaru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate_sf Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 This is the first I've heard about it, but I'm guessing RM will be phasing this change. I just moved a couple of dick pics from private to public, so we'll see if I get snared. If this change sticks, it will require providers to develop yet another workaround. Providers in the US already have to do that with their fees. Some have their fees in an autoresponse in their instant messages. In my case I have a stand-alone web page with my rates that I point clients to. I suppose a stand-alone gallery might be in the cards... 😐 marylander1940 and Jarrod_Uncut 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 This may come off as unpopular opinion but: I think we should embrace this change to an extent. I’ve lamented before that, it’s time out for non clients getting free material and nudes. (clients are people who show up and pay, shoppers are those who are just inquiring). These same guys look at the content, but may never end up being a client or worse, pretend to be interested in hiring only to fall thru. So not only getting free nudes, but free use of time and giving nothing in return. Even if they have seen other providers in the past, they shouldn’t have a free pass to “size us up”, metaphorically speaking, before providing any form of payment. Think about how Grindr, Scruff and others have swept online gay hookups by storm, and non of those allow open nude pics. Think of Instagram and the likes where there’s already so much “content” that isn’t nude. Even at a bathhouse, you can’t always walk around naked for all to see. You have to at least make the commitment to approach/get that person back to your bed, or steam room bench, etc. I’m already a step ahead with the website thing, as I been putting my content for pay for awhile. However I can understand nobody wants to be made to feel the “have to” abide by a set of rules, especially when it comes without a survey from the providers using the site. My take may be: they may be needing it as protective measure of sorts. Maybe they have plans to evolve the site into something more compensated based for the providers. And then you have the Rent.Men app and messenger which, technically may come with some restrictions to content. But like I said as the last word in my other thread: people need to be willing to fight for us, and each other. And that’s not physical violence I’m talking. But moreso: contacting credit card companies, contacting Apple, doing regular protests in cities, etc. It has to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, nate_sf said: I just moved a couple of dick pics from private to public, so we'll see if I get snared. Unfortunately, RM has already moved them into a premium album for you that only paying RM members can see.... I just looked 😕 Pity. Edited October 1, 2023 by Vin_Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 It's a racket lol they ( RM ) makes money off content we ( providers ) have to pay to upload, and charge you ( clients ) more money to see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, coriolis888 said: Good idea, but where can providers and/or clients go as an alternative? The only sites that currently exist are poorly constructed and would require a lot of work to make them even close to how rentmen worked. Worse though, are the crazy hypocrits who made up fake reasons, as was done to close down rentboy. How can you get around those loonies in society? As most of us know, the excuse for closing rentboy was child porn and forced prostitution. What false, silly and stupid excuses. In the years I read rentboy, I never saw anything that even remotely resembled those things. Face it, there are people in power who can make unfair laws that prevent harmless sites rentmen, rentboy for example) from existing. I hope a very clever "man of the night" with an excellent business acumen collaborates with a conspicuous consumer, someone experienced in the procurement of taking their pleasures seriously so that it's done justly for both sides..... Edited October 1, 2023 by Vin_Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, coriolis888 said: Is that a legal way to say "copyright infringement" ? Meant as a joke. I know nothing was copywritten or contracted.) That is actually a very good question. I don't know the answer but I'm sure any adult entertainment attorney would. I'm certain there is fine print that none of us have ever felt compelled to read that probably protect them but again I just don't know. Edited October 1, 2023 by Vin_Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamPoundAss Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: This may come off as unpopular opinion but: I think we should embrace this change to an extent. I’ve lamented before that, it’s time out for non clients getting free material and nudes. (clients are people who show up and pay, shoppers are those who are just inquiring). These same guys look at the content, but may never end up being a client or worse, pretend to be interested in hiring only to fall thru. So not only getting free nudes, but free use of time and giving nothing in return. Even if they have seen other providers in the past, they shouldn’t have a free pass to “size us up”, metaphorically speaking, before providing any form of payment. Think about how Grindr, Scruff and others have swept online gay hookups by storm, and non of those allow open nude pics. Think of Instagram and the likes where there’s already so much “content” that isn’t nude. Even at a bathhouse, you can’t always walk around naked for all to see. You have to at least make the commitment to approach/get that person back to your bed, or steam room bench, etc. I’m already a step ahead with the website thing, as I been putting my content for pay for awhile. However I can understand nobody wants to be made to feel the “have to” abide by a set of rules, especially when it comes without a survey from the providers using the site. My take may be: they may be needing it as protective measure of sorts. Maybe they have plans to evolve the site into something more compensated based for the providers. And then you have the Rent.Men app and messenger which, technically may come with some restrictions to content. But like I said as the last word in my other thread: people need to be willing to fight for us, and each other. And that’s not physical violence I’m talking. But moreso: contacting credit card companies, contacting Apple, doing regular protests in cities, etc. It has to start somewhere. I’m going to disagree. I understand the frustration with “shoppers,” but guess what? Every business selling something has them. In the meantime, you’re asking someone to make a purchasing decision without being able to see the merchandise? Or paying for the privilege of shopping? No, I don’t think so. Clothed pictures are not the same. If you want to make money off your images, then OnlyFans and your own paid access gallery are fine. As you seem to be doing. But if you’re selling access to the real thing, I think you need to be prepared to show what the real thing looks like. Just my opinion. Medin, coriolis888, Massageislife and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 49 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said: This may come off as unpopular opinion but: I think we should embrace this change to an extent. I’ve lamented before that, it’s time out for non clients getting free material and nudes. (clients are people who show up and pay, shoppers are those who are just inquiring). These same guys look at the content, but may never end up being a client or worse, pretend to be interested in hiring only to fall thru. So not only getting free nudes, but free use of time and giving nothing in return. Even if they have seen other providers in the past, they shouldn’t have a free pass to “size us up”, metaphorically speaking, before providing any form of payment. Think about how Grindr, Scruff and others have swept online gay hookups by storm, and non of those allow open nude pics. Think of Instagram and the likes where there’s already so much “content” that isn’t nude. Even at a bathhouse, you can’t always walk around naked for all to see. You have to at least make the commitment to approach/get that person back to your bed, or steam room bench, etc. I’m already a step ahead with the website thing, as I been putting my content for pay for awhile. However I can understand nobody wants to be made to feel the “have to” abide by a set of rules, especially when it comes without a survey from the providers using the site. My take may be: they may be needing it as protective measure of sorts. Maybe they have plans to evolve the site into something more compensated based for the providers. And then you have the Rent.Men app and messenger which, technically may come with some restrictions to content. But like I said as the last word in my other thread: people need to be willing to fight for us, and each other. And that’s not physical violence I’m talking. But moreso: contacting credit card companies, contacting Apple, doing regular protests in cities, etc. It has to start somewhere. I co-owned and operated Manifestmen.com, and it's brother webcam site....the reason us and like sites don't exist or operate anymore is because it's impossible to compete with "free" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot4latin Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 45 minutes ago, coriolis888 said: Good idea, but where can providers and/or clients go as an alternative? I suspect a lot more providers will start mixing in with the massage services over on RentMasseur. There’s already a a good amount of cross-marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudynate Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 4 hours ago, surferguy said: They are also requiring a paid membership in order to request access to the private photos. They've been doing that for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, coriolis888 said: Rentmen's new rule might cause rentmen to lose a lot of advertisers. Face it or not, as is quoted above, Clothed pictures are not the same. Rentmen may want to reconsider their greed and come up with a reasonable alternative. Hey, Rentmen - look at all the ads on your site - the majority of your advertising income is from guys whose advertisement shows their entire body without clothing. Showing the body is a sales pitch, so to speak. Your decision to remove naked ads (without paying extra), might be the beginning of a big fat financial punch to your overall income. You're correct... look what happened to M4RN when they no longer allowed nudes on an ESCORT ADVERTISING SITE. It was the beginning of their end and also the nail in their coffin ⚰️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I'm confused. I'm a paying member of RM and the Premium photos are locked to me. I assumed escorts were doing this to keep "shoppers" from seeing the goods without interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 minute ago, KensingtonHomo said: I'm confused. I'm a paying member of RM and the Premium photos are locked to me. I assumed escorts were doing this to keep "shoppers" from seeing the goods without interaction. You should be able to see "premium photo" albums. I've not moved any photos to a private or premium album... RM took the liberty to do it for me without my knowledge 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Vin_Marco said: You should be able to see "premium photo" albums. I've not moved any photos to a private or premium album... RM took the liberty to do it for me without my knowledge 😕 I can see yours. I guess some providers are putting some as private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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