Clients and escorts getting lost? Myth or sad reality?

[Jamie21]

Oh yes I understand there’s big hopes for Ange at Spurs this season. God help him. 

 

[+ Tygerscent]

3 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Oh wow @mike carey so it is!  That’s only about 10,500 miles to my studio. If my client inadvertently goes there I can only imagine the conversation…

Me ‘hi, are you close?’

Client ‘I can’t find your place…you said 5 minutes walk from Tottenham?’

Me ‘what can you see near you?’

Client ‘um….desert.’

Me ‘dessert? Are you in a restaurant?’

Client ‘no, I’m Tottenham, NSW’

Me ‘oh…turn around and head to Sydney, take the flight to Singapore, then to LHR, then hop on the Elizabeth line to Tottenham Court Road…I’ll see you tomorrow…’

Makes it easy with the Elizabeth… that’s always on time and there’s tons of busses in case it’s raining~ I was there in the area a few weeks ago~    
 lovely, Colorful neighborhood~ 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Tygerscent

[NJF]

4 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Oh yes I understand there’s big hopes for Ange at Spurs this season. God help him. 

 

Anyone who decided to work for Levy doesn’t deserve anyone’s help :-).

[italianboyph]

I've had clients go to the wrong place countless times even with giving  directions and exact address. Also sometimes the gps can be a real bitch and just completely mess up.

 

[Bargara Leatherboy]

I like to know where I am heading, so I do my best to get the address as early as possible - check Apple Maps then do street view - so I have a good idea of where I am heading to.

I was brought up to be on time (often early).

 

I guess if you really want to enjoy the session you do the preparation before hand - but then so many people are just not with it anymore 

[CuriousByNature]

On 8/3/2023 at 7:37 AM, arnemgreeves said:

Not sure how this is possible in this age. Even before smartphones, one could get a map or just ask pedestrians or shopowners for directions.  Seems like a petty excuse not to meet up, or they have lower directional skills than average. 

 

 

As someone who can be very directionally challenged (I have sometimes been unable to find my car in an almost empty parking lot), I know first hand that people can get lost or misguided.  For that reason I try to give myself an extra 15 minutes anytime I am going somewhere unfamiliar, and prior to GPS, I would try to drive there a day or two ahead of time to check the route and make sure I could find the place on the appropriate day.  Even those of us who have issues with getting lost have little excuse to do so if we take other people's time seriously, and take the onus to be on time.

[Simon Suraci]

On 8/19/2023 at 8:40 AM, CuriousByNature said:

As someone who can be very directionally challenged (I have sometimes been unable to find my car in an almost empty parking lot), I know first hand that people can get lost or misguided.  For that reason I try to give myself an extra 15 minutes anytime I am going somewhere unfamiliar, and prior to GPS, I would try to drive there a day or two ahead of time to check the route and make sure I could find the place on the appropriate day.  Even those of us who have issues with getting lost have little excuse to do so if we take other people's time seriously, and take the onus to be on time.

Thanks for being honest. Some clients are just like you but they are not very self aware and lack the effort to plan around their own nature. It takes effort to plan in some extra time to overcome your challenges, but that is the right thing to do. Same goes for providers.

[BuffaloKyle]

On 8/19/2023 at 11:40 AM, CuriousByNature said:

As someone who can be very directionally challenged (I have sometimes been unable to find my car in an almost empty parking lot), I know first hand that people can get lost or misguided.  For that reason I try to give myself an extra 15 minutes anytime I am going somewhere unfamiliar, and prior to GPS, I would try to drive there a day or two ahead of time to check the route and make sure I could find the place on the appropriate day.  Even those of us who have issues with getting lost have little excuse to do so if we take other people's time seriously, and take the onus to be on time.

I'm the same way. I always do a good aerial and streetside view of somewhere new I'm going on google maps. Helps a ton to get a visual look of everything.

Edited August 23, 2023 by BuffaloKyle

[Guest]

In an era of smart phones 📱 it's a bit more difficult to get lost these days... most people have some sort of navigation 🧭 tools in their hot little hand.... as for hotels 🏨 ( I don't stay in too many these days for purposes discussed here ) but one thing I've learned is that most people that come see me like and appreciate familiarity. I don't stay in the hotels that are the least expensive at the time, I tend to stay at hotels where people know the routine... familiarity and consistency have helped me A LOT with the logistics of having folks knock on my door 🚪 😂😉

[BonVivant]

I loved reading all these stories. Very entertaining. We don’t have these problems in Manhattan……

[NJF]

29 minutes ago, BonVivant said:

I loved reading all these stories. Very entertaining. We don’t have these problems in Manhattan……

But the constant constructions and detours can be problematic. 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

On 8/2/2023 at 8:51 PM, DrownedBoy said:

My advice is not to accept any excuses. If someone advertises on RentMen, they're asking for a professional's fee, so expect them to act professional. If they get lost, it's because they failed to prepare adequately. Don't enable irresponsible people.

agree.  
And I’d say from experience that at least 40%-50% providers arrive late with a variety of reasons.  I don’t mind 15-20 minutes, when it gets to be an hour or more, then it’s just rude.

In NYC they will usually blame it on the trains.  In LA, it’s ALWAYS traffic.  Might be true some of the time.  But some just seem over-scheduled & figure that the client will wait vs start the entire process over again with someone else.

Now I usually let them know when confirming the appointment that I have a firm start time with other things to do after.  I also ask which part of town they’re coming from to understand the commute.  If I get the sense that arrival time will be an issue, I tell them more than 20 min late and I’ll have to cancel.  Problem solved.

If I’m going to them, they get the same exact courtesy - I get there on time.

As for getting lost - pretty easy to troubleshot that if the provider or client knows that getting to their place can be confusing. Then you give extra instructions to minimize chances for getting “lost”. 

[Jay DC]

A little more generosity of spirit might be called for. Even though I traveled extensively for work, I never developed a sense of direction. I compensated by trying to overprepare, triple check my routes and get my shit together before heading out. But life happens. When I lived in Washington DC, I left for an appointment at the provider’s hotel. Left in plenty of time, should have been able to park and still have 20 minutes to spare. As it turns out, there was a state dinner and many  motorcades and processionals closed many routes and I couldn’t move for 45 minutes. Of course it was my fault, I didn’t think to check and see if the Queen of England was cruising around the capital. My provider was very understanding and I tipped well to apologize.  Life is hard sometimes. If your so busy that you can’t find compassion for someone running late, maybe find another hobby. 

[marylander1940]

On 9/3/2023 at 6:21 AM, BonVivant said:

I loved reading all these stories. Very entertaining. We don’t have these problems in Manhattan……

Wish we didn't have them in Washington DC on either but some folks just can't figure out the abecedary and numbers....

I always tell people if they come from Maryland to get off the avenues and simply take 16th Street/Georgia Ave exit. All other avenues are your enemy....

[Luv2play]

I saw a new provider this afternoon and for me it was an expected one hour drive to his hotel, in "normal circumstsnces." But I knew this weekend was not normal because the main highway into Ottawa was shut down in the downtown core for replacement of an overhead bridge. So traffic was going to be a nightmare and it was.

I left early and thought I had worked out a good alternative itinerary but didn't count on some construction zones on this unfamiliar route. So I was a half hour late but kept in touch by text the entire time. He was so gracious and relaxed about it that I had no stress.

Oh, the other thing going on downtown when I got close to his hotel were large demonstrations for the Palestinians, Ottawa being Canada's capital and a large group of them were ahead of me trying to get into the parking lot.  

I was going to be another 15 minutes delayed so I just left the car in the lot without prepaying as required. I thought I might get a ticket or have the car booted but to my pleasure it was sitting there just waiting to be driven away. I paid anyway even though there was no gate to go through. It was a win win.

[JamesB]

Some places are more challenging to find than others. My building for example has several entrances but only one will go to the elevator. When I host a provider, I send them an aerial view of the building with the right entrance clearly marked and a picture of said entrance. They still manage to get lost.

[Guest]

On 9/3/2023 at 4:21 PM, SouthOfTheBorder said:

And I’d say from experience that at least 40%-50% providers arrive late with a variety of reasons.  I don’t mind 15-20 minutes, when it gets to be an hour or more, then it’s just rude.

In NYC they will usually blame it on the trains.  In LA, it’s ALWAYS traffic.  Might be true some of the time.  But some just seem over-scheduled & figure that the client will wait vs start the entire process over again with someone else.

This is so wildly bizarre to me...  we teach people what's acceptable and what is not. I don't tolerate flakiness or habitual tardiness so it's extremely important for me to be on time. Reliability.... Sorry you dealt with irresponsible sophomoric providers... you're right, of course once in a while something beyond our control can cause someone to run late but it should be an exception not the norm. 

Edited October 24, 2023 by Vin_Marco

[ICTJOCK]

On 9/3/2023 at 9:21 AM, SouthOfTheBorder said:

agree.  
And I’d say from experience that at least 40%-50% providers arrive late with a variety of reasons.  I don’t mind 15-20 minutes, when it gets to be an hour or more, then it’s just rude.

In NYC they will usually blame it on the trains.  In LA, it’s ALWAYS traffic.  Might be true some of the time.  But some just seem over-scheduled & figure that the client will wait vs start the entire process over again with someone else.

Now I usually let them know when confirming the appointment that I have a firm start time with other things to do after.  I also ask which part of town they’re coming from to understand the commute.  If I get the sense that arrival time will be an issue, I tell them more than 20 min late and I’ll have to cancel.  Problem solved.

If I’m going to them, they get the same exact courtesy - I get there on time.

As for getting lost - pretty easy to troubleshot that if the provider or client knows that getting to their place can be confusing. Then you give extra instructions to minimize chances for getting “lost”. 

I think being late shows more about the provider than lack of timeliness.   I learned how important it is to be on time with whatever kind of client one has,  escort client or a professional client that you see in the office.   I don't like being 5 minutes late.   I feel the communication is,   "I don't value your time".    It is rare I'm late,  but I call if I have a problem with being more than 10 minutes.   When shown a lack of the same respect,   I tend to see the client a little differently.     Part of the basics of doing the job correctly.

[+ Coolwave35]

I’d like to consider myself smart and tech savvy. I get lost all the time. 

[marylander1940]

On 10/29/2023 at 11:35 AM, Coolwave35 said:

I’d like to consider myself smart and tech savvy. I get lost all the time. 

Are you multitasking? 

[marylander1940]

11 minutes ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

before mobile phones - people managed just fine without the need for constant communication.  they even traveled the world without maps, texting, translation apps, etc.  Not so difficult to make it across town for an appointment. 
I think there is way too much reliance on phones when a little common sense will do.  Schedule a time & show up - not complicated. 

 

Don't want to brag the other thread out of subject or at least that's not my intention.

Must you say something that obvious? 

We are all aware that before phones people where able to go from A to B but believe me.... even in cities like NYC and DC where as long as you know numbers you won't get lost folks still get lost... or get to the main door of the building and don't know what to do even if it's idiot proof. 

I know escorts who worked in the turn of the century and once cellphones became popular they wouldn't accept clients who didn't have them. 

[SouthOfTheBorder]

a provider friend once told me if the client is either a) texting several times questioning ETA or b) texting because they are lost - they know it’s not going to be a good appointment.  
 

[Massageguy99]

On 8/2/2023 at 2:59 PM, DynamicUno said:

Even in this day of GPS wayfinding, some people are hopelessly directionally challenged. Still, if you can get to the right place, almost everyone can find the floor based on the room number.

I think some common mistakes people make is referring to hotels by the brand, not realizing that there might be some similarly named properties in the area.  For example, there's a Atlanta Marriott Buckhead and a JW Mariott Buckhead in close proximity, I'm sure people end up at the wrong property frequently.

Also, I think people who aren't used to driving and parking in a given city underestimate the time needed to find a spot near their destination.  They get directions to the building and then try to circle around the block trying to find parking, throw in some one way streets or detours and they end up a few blocks off course.

 

So I used to travel for work. I often had a rental car so I could go to a provider. I quickly learned to ask is there parking in a garage or street level. 

If street level is it easy to find a space? So many time the providers never mention that you will have to walk 5 blocks to find a space ha. 

Also another time this guy is in to this day the most oddly contructed and confusing apartment complex I have ever been to. The buildings had no clear layout. Building 1 was next to 6 etc and the visitor parking was at the main building. Also each building had the same number of units 1-8 on the door. 

It took me 15 minutes to find his apartment because English was his 2nd language. The guy gave a great massage and I recommend for him to draw a map or take pictures to send to clients for future reference. 

[Massageguy99]

1 hour ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

a provider friend once told me if the client is either a) texting several times questioning ETA or b) texting because they are lost - they know it’s not going to be a good appointment.  
 

Interesting. I am curious if the same applies to providers. In a prior market I would often text when leaving. If the map said 20 min I would tell them I am on my way and set to arrive in 25 etc. 

So many times providers would text me multiple times asking. How far away. When it had only been 10 min. I usually marked this down as being traveling providers or new but it happened often. 

Like I told you 25 min and I told you when I left and I am not late so leave me be to drive damn ha. 

[Massageguy99]

This happened recently to me and after many years of hiring I can't believe I was this stupid. 

I spoke to a guy who was traveling and staying for the week in my area. Spoke when he first got in town but it took 3 days before our schedules lined up. 

On day 1 he sent me his hotel and address. Well on day 3 I checked in to see if he was available and told him ok looks like you are 25 min from me. On my way. I get to the hotel and suddenly he text and says it's the Hyatt. 

I thought wait there is no Hyatt over here. We both then quickly realize he had moved hotels. 

Normally I would always verify the address but I did not think to this time and he didn't realize he never told me the new hotel. 

Thankfully he had no bookings and I drove and additional 25 min to reach him.