Clients and escorts getting lost? Myth or sad reality?

[marylander1940]

Even in DC... folks get lost and I'm talking about nowadays with iPhone and google maps, picture before without it. 

Folks from Maryland are famous for driving into the city using the avenues and not being able to get off from them and check the numbers of the streets, while Virginians who most of the time take 14th St bridge know how to find the other numbers.

I know some might use it as an excuse but do folks actually get lost? Do they go to another Hilton hotel? If your hotel room is 1420 do you have to explain that's on the 14ht floor? 

Edited August 3, 2023 by marylander1940

[+ DynamicUno]

Even in this day of GPS wayfinding, some people are hopelessly directionally challenged. Still, if you can get to the right place, almost everyone can find the floor based on the room number.

I think some common mistakes people make is referring to hotels by the brand, not realizing that there might be some similarly named properties in the area.  For example, there's a Atlanta Marriott Buckhead and a JW Mariott Buckhead in close proximity, I'm sure people end up at the wrong property frequently.

Also, I think people who aren't used to driving and parking in a given city underestimate the time needed to find a spot near their destination.  They get directions to the building and then try to circle around the block trying to find parking, throw in some one way streets or detours and they end up a few blocks off course.

 

[+ DrownedBoy]

I know a lot of them are faking.

I lost count of how many escorts had perfectly working phones that conveniently ran out of power an hour before the session.

Like it or not, some cultures have a laid back attitude to time and punctuality. I don't care - when in Rome...

My advice is not to accept any excuses. If someone advertises on RentMen, they're asking for a professional's fee, so expect them to act professional. If they get lost, it's because they failed to prepare adequately. Don't enable irresponsible people.

 

Edited August 3, 2023 by DrownedBoy

[Rod Hagen]

I've met with people for the first time who text me, from the sidewalk right outside my building, "I can't find you?!"  :-)

[Shawn Monroe]

19 hours ago, DynamicUno said:

For example, there's a Atlanta Marriott Buckhead and a JW Mariott Buckhead in close proximity, I'm sure people end up at the wrong property frequently.

My favorite is the Hampton Inn Buckhead, not to be confused with the Hampton Inn & Suites Buckhead, literally next door. 
(one is 3312 Piedmont, the other 3398 Piedmont). 

Anyway, some people do lie. But some people are generally not familiar with the area - people from suburbs or other cities, coming and not realizing you’ll have to park, pay, and walk to get to me. I do live in the middle of the city  

if they’re not from atlanta, I just expect the appt will start a little bit late.  

[KeepItReal]

54 minutes ago, Shawn Monroe said:

My favorite is the Hampton Inn Buckhead, not to be confused with the Hampton Inn & Suites Buckhead, literally next door. 
(one is 3312 Piedmont, the other 3398 Piedmont). 

My favorite is downtown Philly! I kid you not...There is a regular Marriott, a Marriott Courtyard and a Marriott Residence Inn next to each other on two city blocks. My guy usually ends up at the wrong damn Marriott!!🤭

[Shawn Monroe]

34 minutes ago, KeepItReal said:

My favorite is downtown Philly! I kid you not...There is a regular Marriott, a Marriott Courtyard and a Marriott Residence Inn next to each other on two city blocks. My guy usually ends up at the wrong damn Marriott!!🤭

This was actually going to be part of my original post but thought it was gonna be too long. But Marriott in particular will buy a plot of land and put three hotels on it…then do the same thing on the other side of the road. They were a client of mine way back in the day, so doing stuff for them was a pain when they’d have 7 concepts next to each other. 

[maninsoma]

Some addresses really are difficult to find, even when using mapping software on a cell phone.  I've definitely gone to places and parked but then had difficulty figuring out which of the many buildings I was supposed to go to.  I have also followed directions given by Google Maps and occasionally made choices that in retrospect were nonsensical.  One of them that stands out in my mind to this day is exiting a Los Angeles area freeway onto to wait at a red light and then reenter the freeway on the other side of the overpass.  There was definitely no reason to exit the freeway, but for whatever reason Google told me to exit and since I was unfamiliar with the area I just followed the directions given.  Another involved walking and not driving.  Despite me reading directions provided by actual people online, when I visited Las Vegas I believed Google's instruction to park at a parking garage much closer as the crow flies to my destination.  The only problem was that there was no way for most people to walk from that garage to my destination since it was for employees only (with locked doors).  I ended up having a nearly 30 minute walk from the garage to my destination versus the 7 minute walk it would have been had I parked where people online suggested.  I submitted a correction to Google in the hopes to prevent other tourists from making the same mistake.

I will also admit that I am directionally challenged, so it's relatively easy for me to get lost if I am in an unfamiliar area.

[Bokomaru]

It’s too bad more people don’t know about What3Words. That app solves these problems. I use it for locations that Google Maps can’t seem to find, but it’s also perfect for sending the location of a Marriott that has two other Marriotts next to it. 

[Jamie21]

I once met a client at the Park Plaza Westminster Bridge. I turned up nice and early and texted him to say I was in the lobby (necessary because the lifts required the room key). He texted to say that he too was waiting in the lobby….where was I? I gave a detailed description. 

He then messaged to say he definitely couldn’t see me. Was I in the correct hotel because there’s a Park Plaza over the road….called Park Plaza County Hall and he that’s where I should be. Turned out that I was indeed in the Park Plaza Westminster Bridge…which is a different hotel. So I had to go to the other hotel. Pity because the first hotel looked nice. 
 

Edited August 3, 2023 by Jamie21

[marylander1940]

9 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

I've met with people for the first time who text me, from the sidewalk right outside my building, "I can't find you?!"  🙂

I know guys who send a picture of their building just in case the potential clients can't find them.

When it comes to stupidity or multitasking enough information is better than too much Sometimes guys get overwhelmed with data and can't remember the basic things about how to go from point A to b

[+ DrownedBoy]

On 8/3/2023 at 9:54 AM, Rod Hagen said:

I've met with people for the first time who text me, from the sidewalk right outside my building, "I can't find you?!"  🙂

I had an escort who did that at the same time his phone "lost power", and then took 30 minutes to get from the sidewalk to my room.

Then he said that 30 minutes counted towards the session.

After the session, I texted him, told him I had a great time, and told him to look out for his review.

It wasn't exactly a 5-star review, and I laughed at his histrionic texts claiming I ruined his "career."

Edited August 4, 2023 by DrownedBoy

[Shawn Monroe]

On 8/3/2023 at 8:53 PM, marylander1940 said:

When it comes to stupidity or multitasking enough information is better than too much Sometimes guys get overwhelmed with data and can't remember the basic things about how to go from point A to b

It’s tough toeing the line between “enough” and “too much”.

I know I give too much, because I don’t want you on the street, or in the lobby bringing attention to yourself (which brings attention to me). 

but some guys can’t be buggered to read more than a sentence or two. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 8/3/2023 at 11:20 AM, Shawn Monroe said:

some people are generally not familiar with the area - people from suburbs or other cities, coming and not realizing you’ll have to park, pay, and walk to get to me. I do live in the middle of the city  

if they’re not from atlanta, I just expect the appt will start a little bit late.  

 

Right, talking about paying to park: those fucking bastards in ATL are ruthless. I have driven and parked in most every big city in the country, including Chicago, SF and DC, all notoriously limited places to park: I have never walked out to find my car booted on a Saturday night while parked on a city street, except in Atlanta 😆 

That said, nowadays I’m the one reading the WHOLE parking sign..making sure I get it just right. Denver is also another one, might as well take a picture and pack a lunch to figure out their parking restrictions lol. 
 

On 8/2/2023 at 1:21 PM, marylander1940 said:

Even in DC... folks get lost and I'm talking about nowadays with iPhone and google maps, picture before without it. 

Folks from Maryland are famous for driving into the city using the avenues and not being able to get off from them and check the numbers of the streets, while Virginians who most of the time take 14th St bridge know how to find the other numbers.

I know some might use it as an excuse but do folks actually get lost? Do they go to another Hilton hotel? If your hotel room is 1420 do you have to explain that's on the 14ht floor? 

DC can be a hard city to navigate though. However it always makes sense to get exact addresses. There should be no reason someone is getting hotels mixed up.

I like to make sure I get the exact name, and address of the hotel. I’m not about to go dashing out, just because someone says “I’m at the Marriott airport, U avail?”  
 

Even in Kansas City, there’s 2 embassy suites off 435. But they are both in different towns. I have to get the exact address (which is often in plain view on the hotel telephone).

However, some residences can be difficult to find…especially the basement type units common in DC. And then the parking can often take you way away from where you need to be.
 

I remember earlier this year, I had a client contact me in San Diego for a 4som. It was kinda last minute, and even though I arrived in like 30 minutes, I spent 10 minutes circling trying to figure where to park. There was nowhere to. That wasn’t included with the address. Finally did find something…which took an additional 5 minutes to walk from. 

On 8/2/2023 at 3:59 PM, DynamicUno said:

Even in this day of GPS wayfinding, some people are hopelessly directionally challenged. Still, if you can get to the right place, almost everyone can find the floor based on the room number.

I think some common mistakes people make is referring to hotels by the brand, not realizing that there might be some similarly named properties in the area.  For example, there's a Atlanta Marriott Buckhead and a JW Mariott Buckhead in close proximity, I'm sure people end up at the wrong property frequently.

Also, I think people who aren't used to driving and parking in a given city underestimate the time needed to find a spot near their destination.  They get directions to the building and then try to circle around the block trying to find parking, throw in some one way streets or detours and they end up a few blocks off course.

 

For me, I still use 2 GPS sometimes. The car gps is so I’m not reliant on looking at my phone, but I still use Google maps on my phone to glance at once I get closer, and to also detect any traffic backups that might be happening before I set off. The phone is also better at picking at exact addresses. Big GPS systems often only get you nearby, I find the phone to be a bit more accurate. Some client’s places don’t even show up properly on gps at all. 
 

I’ve had many times where I’ve been sent to what I thought was the address, but it was over shot by a couple blocks. 
 

that’s why many gps systems “aren’t liable” for you driving into the lake.. even though it told you to 😆 hell I’ve had twice where my gps took me thru unpaved roads, even getting stuck once because it was like sand. Most recently, I was in Louisiana and tried to take a short cut: guy jumps in front of me all aggressive, saying the street is a designated landing 🛬 strip 😯 

I’m like dude, my gps said I could short cut here…but he wasn’t hearing it lol. Thought I was about to get rounded up and sent to slavery the way he came at me 😂 

Edited August 7, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ bashful]

I've had good luck with GPS.  Once rented a car with a separate GPS handed to me in a bag.  It got me from Walkersville MD to Four Seasons Georgetown.  No prob.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, bashful said:

I've had good luck with GPS.  Once rented a car with a separate GPS handed to me in a bag.  It got me from Walkersville MD to Four Seasons Georgetown.  No prob.

The dedicated GPS (i like Garmin) are usually always on point majority of the times, when going from town to town.

It’s just when it comes to navigating countryside areas, that they seem to occasionally off track. Or sometimes on a route that isn’t favorable. I usually like to verify on Google phone map first, and then use the dedicated gps as a hands free or, especially in areas where data signal is thin: a regular gps will still work.

[+ Tygerscent]

On 8/2/2023 at 1:59 PM, DynamicUno said:

Even in this day of GPS wayfinding, some people are hopelessly directionally challenged. Still, if you can get to the right place, almost everyone can find the floor based on the room number.  
  I think some common mistakes people make is referring to hotels by the brand, not realizing that there might be some similarly named properties in the area.  For example, there's a Atlanta Marriott Buckhead and a JW Mariott Buckhead in close proximity, I'm sure people end up at the wrong property frequently.

Also, I think people who aren't used to driving and parking in a given city underestimate the time needed to find a spot near their destination.  They get directions to the building and then try to circle around the block trying to find parking, throw in some one way streets or detours and they end up a few blocks off course.

 

There’s been a couple of places where finding the right room was challenging even with the room number. You would think it would be the simplest thing in the world but, I’ve known hotels that had tower is 1, 2 and three each having the same room numbers in each tower. The essential information is knowing what tower your particular room is in… Also east and west towers, North and south towers that sort of thing~ Sometimes apartment buildings have the same apartment numbers and you have to know which particular building you’re looking for: ABCDE etc. there could be an entire alphabet worth of buildings there. 
 There are a number of different neighborhoods in various cities that have one name shared between specific neighborhoods all located next to each other, (or not),: 31st St. Place, 31st St Court, 31st st Loop, 31st St East and 31st St. West~   That sort of things~    
One time I was looking for a location on 137th St. but, what GPS didn’t know about 137th St. is that it starts in one area and then it stops and then there’s a completely different neighborhood with its own streets. On the other side of that neighborhood, 137th St. continues again but, It’s about a half a mile away. So, you’re driving around looking for a particular address and there is no house with that address if you’re on the wrong, 137th St.  it’s on the other one that’s a half a mile away. It’s good to leave some extra time and your travel to account for not only traffic but, bizarre traffic  infrastructure. 
 GPS can be exceptionally deceiving if there’s a new development or new construction going on or an established area within the city that changes its traffic patterns but not the street names~
Mischief can occur If I get near military bases, airports, areas that have a lot of heavy metals in the ground due to bunkers or thick cement buildings/overpasses or whatever~ Sometimes GPS just spins around in a circles possessed… I pull the car over and I watch GPS locate me in the middle of a cornfield even though I’m on an established road or highway.
 Suddenly it puts me in the middle of a lake.  
 When G5 came out, this was happening frequently~ Annoying and still happens…   
 I recently spent a month in London working and GPS consistently would point me in one direction and show a clear path as designated by a blue line.  
 I would commence walking suddenly the entire process would change and point me in the opposite direction. That was consistent throughout the entire trip~     
 After a short time I came to expect the error and would intentionally walk in the opposite direction initially instructed to pursue~ 
 Seemingly GPS works only a percentage of the time much like spell correction: I encounter constant error~    
 For this very reason, I’ve weaned myself off of GPS as much as possible because being brutally honest, my sense of direction was much better before GPS came along~ I’m getting back to basics and find doing so augments my inner natural GPS: I remember more accurately where I’ve been in the world. I began to lose that sense when I started using GPS~    
 There’s a lot that’s been added to smart phones but, quite frankly, there’s so much of it I really don’t care about and  never use.
 Regardless, it takes up memory, space and time on my phone all of which I pay for one way or another. It’s like a bad physics theory: the theory of non-relativity~  My phone storage and capabilities ate not directly related to an update but rather whether my phone is older than one year in market time quarter by Apple Pi times the Samsung nebulas~ 
  Photos is a great example: suddenly there are new categories for things like “memories” where the phone somehow pulls out photographs it thinks are significant to me, putting them together in little video program with music. Somehow my phone thinks I care about something I did a year ago or five years ago and quite frankly, I don’t give a damn. Maybe of my phone memories burned down with Terra during the computer wars of the 90’s and early 2000’s~  “I don’t know nuthin about texting on a blackberry”~ (rolling eyes). That’s back in the days when my phone covers were hand made out of fancy curtains~ 
 Most of the time when I’m on my phone, I’m actually trying to do something like work, research things or find some information on my phone relative to work~  I’m not on it to reminisce about something I did a year or five ago~  
 Again, it’s an annoyance and it takes up time~ If it was the only thing taking up my time on my phone, it might be less of an annoyance but, there’s constant updates or I have to look at every ad on YouTube whether I want to or not to see some thing, or I’m trapped in security issues like double and triple verification and I’m constantly having to change passwords or make new ones to comply~    The percentage of time that my phone is not working because of bugs, updates, rebooting, waiting for ads, correcting things like grammar and words that my phone thinks I want to use when I don’t, it all adds up~
 When I add all the time up it leaves the impression that my phone is actually becoming a detriment.
 Between cell service and the actual cost of the phone, it’s a couple thousand bucks a year and I feel like it should work all the time not just 30% of the time~   
 Television was originally an advertising tool, and to get people to watch the advertisements, they added entertainment~ Our media devices have become the same thing… Their marketing tools and they’ve created an extra need by incorporating them into our work life, healthcare system, and education which are ultimately more opportunities to market something~   
 So when I come across these blimps like GPS problems and trying to accomplish simple tasks like finding an address, a hotel, room number, the first thing I think of is: “what do they want me to buy now” and “there must be some other way I can get my work done without these constant interruptions”~
  I’ve never owned a television, I stopped using computers in 2014. I do everything on my phone and I try to avoid the cloud as much as possible because I don’t like the idea my life being stored remotely on a “cloud” away from my phone~    
  The idea of losing it all, (due to weather or some random bomb from some pissed off country or bizarre glitch like the airlines had when they didn’t update their computer programs), discourages me… I haven’t had Internet since 2014. I have an unlimited data program and I tap into Wi-Fi in random places~ That works~    
 I’ve also never owned a microwave or a stereo system. It doesn’t mean I don’t get cooked food or don’t listen to music. I just have less the expenses of those things and that works for me but, I know that technology has appeal to many and an important place there for them and their lives.  
  I’m just a cheap bastard… When I add up the hundreds of thousands of dollars, these things cost over the course of a lifetime, I become disenchanted with them~ that money could go into my retirement, purchase property or rent some hot guy every other day after I retire~  

 

Edited August 9, 2023 by Tygerscent

[+ Tygerscent]

On 8/7/2023 at 12:08 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

Right, talking about paying to park: those fucking bastards in ATL are ruthless. I have driven and parked in most every big city in the country, including Chicago, SF and DC, all notoriously limited places to park: I have never walked out to find my car booted on a Saturday night while parked on a city street, except in Atlanta 😆 

That said, nowadays I’m the one reading the WHOLE parking sign..making sure I get it just right. Denver is also another one, might as well take a picture and pack a lunch to figure out their parking restrictions lol. 
 

DC can be a hard city to navigate though. However it always makes sense to get exact addresses. There should be no reason someone is getting hotels mixed up.

I like to make sure I get the exact name, and address of the hotel. I’m not about to go dashing out, just because someone says “I’m at the Marriott airport, U avail?”  
 

Even in Kansas City, there’s 2 embassy suites off 435. But they are both in different towns. I have to get the exact address (which is often in plain view on the hotel telephone).

However, some residences can be difficult to find…especially the basement type units common in DC. And then the parking can often take you way away from where you need to be.
 

I remember earlier this year, I had a client contact me in San Diego for a 4som. It was kinda last minute, and even though I arrived in like 30 minutes, I spent 10 minutes circling trying to figure where to park. There was nowhere to. That wasn’t included with the address. Finally did find something…which took an additional 5 minutes to walk from. 

For me, I still use 2 GPS sometimes. The car gps is so I’m not reliant on looking at my phone, but I still use Google maps on my phone to glance at once I get closer, and to also detect any traffic backups that might be happening before I set off. The phone is also better at picking at exact addresses. Big GPS systems often only get you nearby, I find the phone to be a bit more accurate. Some client’s places don’t even show up properly on gps at all. 
 

I’ve had many times where I’ve been sent to what I thought was the address, but it was over shot by a couple blocks. 
 

that’s why many gps systems “aren’t liable” for you driving into the lake.. even though it told you to 😆 hell I’ve had twice where my gps took me thru unpaved roads, even getting stuck once because it was like sand. Most recently, I was in Louisiana and tried to take a short cut: guy jumps in front of me all aggressive, saying the street is a designated landing 🛬 strip 😯 

I’m like dude, my gps said I could short cut here…but he wasn’t hearing it lol. Thought I was about to get rounded up and sent to slavery the way he came at me 😂 

What time I was in a city in the winter time during a snowstorm… I followed the signs after reading them carefully. I did exactly what I was supposed to do. I left my car in one spot and according to the signs that wasn’t a problem except, there are rules, not written on the signs. I came back to my car a few days later and found a small novel of tickets, love letters from the city each one with a beginning value of about $35 and increasing if not paid within a certain amount of time. I went to the city site to do a little research and then I called. The woman literally told me I was liable for the tickets and that if I lived there, I would already know the rules. I pointed out to her that I don’t live there and then I’m traveling for work. I asked her how anybody would know about these rules that were not written on the signs on the street and she said people were expected to call or go on the website to read what the rules are. I gently asked her if the city honestly had the expectation that everybody in the city was a local resident… She did not know how to answer. She said I could contest the tickets. In the end the first issued ticket was dismissed but, they screwed me on the rest of them saying that after I gotten the first ticket, I should’ve known something was wrong. Unfortunately, I was away from my car for days  and didn’t know that the tickets for accumulating, and there was nothing that would indicate that I was even getting tickets. 

Edited August 9, 2023 by Tygerscent

[TorontoDrew]

I was in Poland a few years ago and the provider didn't specify east or west and the Uber dropped me at the other/wrong one.  Tried to communicate with the provider and his english was not good and my Polish non existant.  We eventually figured it out but it was painful.

[justanoldguy]

On 8/3/2023 at 7:54 AM, Rod Hagen said:

I've met with people for the first time who text me, from the sidewalk right outside my building, "I can't find you?!"  🙂

I resemble that remark. But in my defense the next street over has a confusingly similar name. 🤡

[BuffaloKyle]

For some reason my street isn't perfectly mapped. The last couple providers that I hosted both got dropped off in the driveway across the street. Both times I was on the phone with them so I was able to direct them to my house. Just glad though no one across the street was outside. When GPS first came out it had my house location even more off, saying it was around 10 houses more down the block than it is. So getting warmer.

[Jamie21]

I have a tried and tested (iteratively) address message that I give to clients. Most find me. A few get lost and then it’s a case of messaging on WhatsApp…”where are you?, what can you see?” as I try to understand where they have got themselves to.

I think people unfamiliar with London get confused easily. I describe my place as being close to Tottenham Court Road station, which is very central in London but I had one client see the word Tottenham and assume that I was in that part of town (if you know London you’ll know it’s a totally different area and much less central). He said ‘North London?’. I said ‘no, it’s central’ but he didn’t respond after that. I guess he put Tottenham into Google maps and decided ‘no thanks!’. 

These days with smartphones and online maps it’s much more difficult to get lost than it used to be. It’s usually the last 50 metres that’s the difficult bit. 

 

[mike carey]

Pfft, @Jamie21, everyone knows that Tottenham is a small town in central western NSW! OK, perhaps not everyone!

[Jamie21]

Oh wow @mike carey so it is!  That’s only about 10,500 miles to my studio. If my client inadvertently goes there I can only imagine the conversation…

Me ‘hi, are you close?’

Client ‘I can’t find your place…you said 5 minutes walk from Tottenham?’

Me ‘what can you see near you?’

Client ‘um….desert.’

Me ‘dessert? Are you in a restaurant?’

Client ‘no, I’m Tottenham, NSW’

Me ‘oh…turn around and head to Sydney, take the flight to Singapore, then to LHR, then hop on the Elizabeth line to Tottenham Court Road…I’ll see you tomorrow…’

[mike carey]

Lol, @Jamie21, you checked! We have places with the same name as most everywhere in London, and the UK more broadly (but mostly England)! Many Australians (OK maybe 'some') are more aware of Tottenham now that Ange Postecoglu (formerly of our national team) is the manager of Spurs!

But thanks, SYD-SIN-LHR then the Elizabeth Line, got it!!