Dangerous encounter

[rustyrex]

Hey All,

I recently had a dangerous encounter with a provider.  Usually I’m good at knowing the signs but I let jr override my common and sense.  Ultimately this guy threatened me with physical violence.  The communication with him was strange which really should’ve put me on alert but as I said jr took over my common and sense. He ended up charging me more and threw me out of his hotel room.  Out of all my experiences this one was the most dangerous. The guy then claimed he was straight and that he didn’t even like being with men.  I think the actual act of sex was something that he didn’t enjoy because there was no erection and he wasn’t even pleasant with the nicety’s of an introduction and small talk.  I’m not going to mention who this is but I am curious, if things turn crazy during the encounter how do you handle it?

[BuzzLiteQueer]

I'm very sorry this happened to you.  It must have been very scary.  I'm glad you came out ok.  But please consider letting us know who he is so none of us meet him.

[Tonyko]

If NOTHING else you must give the CITY this occurred in or the cit the scort works out of, so those here who hire there can DM you for deets. 

[Buff Daddy]

Yes. You should let all of us know something. These characters need to be exposed 👍

[coriolis888]

4 hours ago, rustyrex said:

Hey All,

I recently had a dangerous encounter with a provider.  Usually I’m good at knowing the signs but I let jr override my common and sense.  Ultimately this guy threatened me with physical violence.  The communication with him was strange which really should’ve put me on alert but as I said jr took over my common and sense. He ended up charging me more and threw me out of his hotel room.  Out of all my experiences this one was the most dangerous. The guy then claimed he was straight and that he didn’t even like being with men.  I think the actual act of sex was something that he didn’t enjoy because there was no erection and he wasn’t even pleasant with the nicety’s of an introduction and small talk.  I’m not going to mention who this is but I am curious, if things turn crazy during the encounter how do you handle it?

One of the benefits of this forum is for members to share good and bad information while engaging a provider. 

In the case of the dangerous person you described, forum members should be warned about who the person is and where you found the person, such as rentmen et cetera. 

A simple link to that bad guy's advertisement would be beneficial to members. 

 

 

 

Edited June 10, 2023 by coriolis888

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

If you aren't going to mention the name of the provider, what is the purpose of the post? How to handle a similar situation? You didn't provide enough details for someone to provide you with an intelligent answer.
If you are concerned enough about what happened to you to create a new topic, then you should be equally as vigilant in giving us the provider's name so no one else has to experience this "dangerous encounter". Otherwise, this thread is totally useless.

BoZo

 

[+ azdr0710]

easy, guys, easy!.......  @rustyrex is a longtime, respected forum member and can post what he wants......it's possible "outing" the provider will put rusty at risk for retaliation........a PM to rusty might work if you're trusty (hey, I made a rhyme).......I do agree that posting the city or homebase of the provider might be helpful.......

[MscleLovr]

1 hour ago, rustyrex said:

if things turn crazy during the encounter how do you handle it?

The primary rule is to protect yourself, so get away fast. Or if it’s in your own home, get him out fast.
 

It doesn’t matter if it costs you extra $ to extricate yourself from the situation. Nothing is more important than preserving your life and health. 

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

If you aren't going to mention the name of the provider, what is the purpose of the post? How to handle a similar situation? You didn't provide enough details for someone to provide you with an intelligent answer.
If you are concerned enough about what happened to you to create a new topic, then you should be equally as vigilant in giving us the provider's name so no one else has to experience this "dangerous encounter". Otherwise, this thread is totally useless.

BoZo

 

That's a common sense/tough love statement!

2 hours ago, rustyrex said:

Hey All,

I recently had a dangerous encounter with a provider.  Usually I’m good at knowing the signs but I let jr override my common and sense.  Ultimately this guy threatened me with physical violence.  The communication with him was strange which really should’ve put me on alert but as I said jr took over my common and sense. He ended up charging me more and threw me out of his hotel room.  Out of all my experiences this one was the most dangerous. The guy then claimed he was straight and that he didn’t even like being with men.  I think the actual act of sex was something that he didn’t enjoy because there was no erection and he wasn’t even pleasant with the nicety’s of an introduction and small talk.  I’m not going to mention who this is but I am curious, if things turn crazy during the encounter how do you handle it?

I'm sure this ain't his first time. You should consider reporting him on here or at least search to find out if he's been talked on here before. 

Your choice!

Edited June 10, 2023 by marylander1940

[GTMike]

3 hours ago, rustyrex said:

Hey All,

I recently had a dangerous encounter with a provider.  Usually I’m good at knowing the signs but I let jr override my common and sense.  Ultimately this guy threatened me with physical violence.  The communication with him was strange which really should’ve put me on alert but as I said jr took over my common and sense. He ended up charging me more and threw me out of his hotel room.  Out of all my experiences this one was the most dangerous. The guy then claimed he was straight and that he didn’t even like being with men.  I think the actual act of sex was something that he didn’t enjoy because there was no erection and he wasn’t even pleasant with the nicety’s of an introduction and small talk.  I’m not going to mention who this is but I am curious, if things turn crazy during the encounter how do you handle it?

What are examples of the warning signs and strange communication that you decided to override? 

And to be clear. My intention of asking is not going down a path towards something like victim shaming. Just trying to get more context of pretextual situation.

Edited June 10, 2023 by GTMike
Just adding to original comment

[Jamie21]

Sorry to hear this, I hope you are ok. I’d say never ignore the warning signs. If his communication with you was strange at the start then that’s a good warning sign.

It’s difficult because you want to give people the benefit of the doubt, and no doubt his pics etc looked hot but given that you’re intending at some point to be in a very vulnerable position with a stranger then you really should do the utmost to be careful about the type of guy you hire, and take notice of warning signs. 

[+ purplekow]

Your own safety is of paramount importance.  Getting distance between you and him is a priority preferably to a public place with others around.  

While I believe you were in fear at the time, you should not be cowed into silence now.  Perhaps starting a thread with just a warning that this man is worth avoiding. 

Hopefully, you kept important information, such as your name and address, private.  

Stay safe in the future.  Inform someone where you are going to be and with whom you are going to be.  

I am about to write a phrase I never expected to write, but I agree with Bozo.  The information here is helpful only with the details.  

[coriolis888]

8 hours ago, MscleLovr said:

The primary rule is to protect yourself, so get away fast. Or if it’s in your own home, get him out fast.
 

I do not believe that there is a primary rule to protect yourself. 

If you happen to get together with a provider who has rotten motives and he wants to hurt you to get more money, all you can do is fight (defend) or try to get away from him or give in and pay more money.   

Finding the right way to separate yourself from the bad guy is usually not easy but it can be done. 

Most providers are good people trying to make some money. 

Every now and again, there is the person, like is described by the author of this thread, who is truly a bad person. 

I think that the author is doing the forum a disservice by not furnishing any information on the provider such as what city he resides or where he advertises.  

 

 

[robberbaron4u]

1 hour ago, coriolis888 said:

I do not believe that there is a primary rule to protect yourself. 

If you happen to get together with a provider who has rotten motives and he wants to hurt you to get more money, all you can do is fight (defend) or try to get away from him or give in and pay more money.   

Finding the right way to separate yourself from the bad guy is usually not easy but it can be done. 

Most providers are good people trying to make some money. 

Every now and again, there is the person, like is described by the author of this thread, who is truly a bad person. 

I think that the author is doing the forum a disservice by not furnishing any information on the provider such as what city he resides or where he advertises.  

 

 

 I am in agreement with this post. However, in my own experience in having issued a warning with regard to an escort, sticks and stones came my way, and, thereby, I do appreciate the initial poster's reticence in identifying the escort.

[coriolis888]

41 minutes ago, robberbaron4u said:

However, in my own experience in having issued a warning with regard to an escort, sticks and stones came my way,

Thank you for the post. 

However, in the case of the poster who started this thread, there could be no logical reason for failure to at least mention the city the incident occurred. 

As most providers are met through rentmen, just a simple city name is not going to come back to haunt the OP.

Repeating what I already said, this forum is to help each other through the exchange of information, good or bad. 

No one is helped by clapping with one hand, as did the OP.  

Edited June 11, 2023 by coriolis888

[+ jeezopete]

31 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

there could be no logical reason for failure to at least mention the city the incident occurred.

I agree, but since the OP said he was in the escort's hotel room it's a pretty safe guess that the escort was travelling so he could already be onto the next city...or the next.

[KeepItReal]

6 hours ago, jeezopete said:

I agree, but since the OP said he was in the escort's hotel room it's a pretty safe guess that the escort was travelling so he could already be onto the next city...or the next.

I took it the same way.  If I was concerned with safety, I would wait two days, open a thread on the companion (or add to an existing thread) and simply say: Met him recently, would not recommend.  @rustyrex is a long time member - enough said. 

[SirBillybob]

I think the OP knew what to do, that is, in terms of the good advice about extricating himself. He may be debriefing here as members rarely have other sources of support due to the stigma of hiring. He alluded to not following his big head instincts and is perhaps psychologically metabolizing the ensuing shook up emotions in the writing to us, like we are a kind of private journal that speaks back in various ways. He asked a question so he has to roll with the answers and extract what is useful given the nuances of his recent encounter.

I spoke this weekend to a chap assaulted in a Brazilian brothel (sauna with escorts), a relative newcomer to the trade scene there. He is still in the city location in Brazil and had some recovery time. He was reluctant to use his own phone but eventually arranged to speak via the WhatsApp of a third party we know in common, a sweet young local spa masajista employee. That third party had mentioned the incident with vague details earlier, but we are back and forth in ‘Portuguenglish’. A lot of the resolution of a bad experience, apart from possible more concrete measures, is derived from getting it off one’s chest. I don’t pretend to claim having made a difference, but hearing him out seemed the decent thing to offer. 

Edited June 11, 2023 by SirBillybob

[+ FrankR]

19 hours ago, rustyrex said:

Hey All,

I recently had a dangerous encounter with a provider.  Usually I’m good at knowing the signs but I let jr override my common and sense.  Ultimately this guy threatened me with physical violence.  The communication with him was strange which really should’ve put me on alert but as I said jr took over my common and sense. He ended up charging me more and threw me out of his hotel room.  Out of all my experiences this one was the most dangerous. The guy then claimed he was straight and that he didn’t even like being with men.  I think the actual act of sex was something that he didn’t enjoy because there was no erection and he wasn’t even pleasant with the nicety’s of an introduction and small talk.  I’m not going to mention who this is but I am curious, if things turn crazy during the encounter how do you handle it?

@rustyrex I am glad you came away unhurt.  When things go off the rails, I do whatever I can to extricate myself. Pay the provider the agreed fee, walk away. I may even pay more since I usually carry a little extra for tip. Put a post-it on your bathroom mirror for the following week with this message: I will not allow little Rusty to rule the roost! 😉

[+ Pensant]

I tend to be more paranoid and less trusting than some while pursuing this pastime, so I’ve fortunately never had this experience. Only once have a had a somewhat intimidating as opposed to a dangerous encounter: when a provider brought a friend along. I was at a hotel and wouldn’t let them in since there were two. They made a fuss but I told them that I’d call the front desk and have them escorted out. They left with a string of vulgarities.

[SirBillybob]

14 minutes ago, Pensant said:

I tend to be more paranoid and less trusting than some while pursuing this pastime, so I’ve fortunately never had this experience. Only once have a had a somewhat intimidating as opposed to a dangerous encounter: when a provider brought a friend along. I was at a hotel and wouldn’t let them in since there were two. They made a fuss but I told them that I’d call the front desk and have them escorted out. They left with a string of vulgarities.

That’s not paranoia; that’s hella good common sense, not colour blind viz the 2+ flags waved in front of you. Spidey sense alone a few slices in the Swiss cheese prophylaxis stack. 

Edited June 11, 2023 by SirBillybob

[CuriousByNature]

What an awful experience!  I'm sorry this happened to you, and I am glad you got away safely.  Like some others who have responded, I think a bit more information would be helpful if you are able to share it.  Without that, it is sort of like saying "Someone you might meet will try to harm you, but I can't/won't tell you who that is."  That doesn't work to prevent this from happening to someone else, assuming that was the intention of the original post.  But if revealing more info could put you at risk, then definitely protect yourself.

[CarolinaRen]

This is awful that it happened to you, but I'm in agreement with those here who would like to know specifically who to avoid in case this person has a chance to cross my path. I make contact with a provider via text, but I would certainly block the number following an encounter like the one described here. The provider never knows my name or anything about me unless it's someone I've used extensively and really liked. Glad you're ok, man.

[Guest]

I’m so sorry this happened to you!  I think you should at least post a link to his profile.  This is a safe space and it would be a positive things to warn others.  I’d be afraid to post a negative review on RM for fear of harassment.  On the bright side you were at his hotel so you didn’t risk your home and had people around if things got bad.

I’ve had two really bad experiences in my time.  One was a hot guy I picked up late at night on the street in a known hustling spot who later pulled a gun on me and robbed me.  The other was a college kid who lived down the block who extorted me for money threatening to tell my bf at the time we hooked up.

[Walt]

@rustyrex I am sorry that this happened to you.  You did nothing wrong; you did the best you could at that moment! Commonsense and trusting your gut are always a good route...but sometimes it doesn't happen. When it comes to physical safety, just get out of the there and hopefully into a more public space where there are others, if you can.  Again, you did nothing wrong. At the moment, relax, do some deep breathing, and don't beat yourself up. 

Sometimes talking to others can help get the anxiety out of one's system.  Sometimes people on here are a little more supportive. Do what you need to do to reach some internal personal comfort level and equilibrium -- and ignore everyone on here demanding you name the perpetrator. I have trouble understanding how some people here can be so egocentric and selfish as to think that you as a victim exist most importantly to protect them. Take care of yourself, do what you can do, and ignore people making demands of what you should do before you are ready, if it all.