Interesting chat I had with a provider...

[Wolfer]

I contacted him for a massage and sex (he offers both). He asked to see pictures of my face and body (he specified it needed to be nude pictures). The rest of the conversation I have attached through screenshots. 

The weird thing is he has a number of glowing reviews so I guess there's enough clients that don't mind sending all these pictures to providers? For me one of the reasons to hire is so I don't have to do all this (send pics, feel judged etc). But it seems to work for him. Especially that he admitted to giving discounts to clients he finds attractive. 

At least he's completely honest! I did appreciate that. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2023 by Wolfer

[+ sync]

I would say you are being well beyond understanding by regarding your exchange as an "interesting chat."

[Jamie21]

He’s monetising his sex life, I expect he is new to this and he won’t be around long. Your pics should not be required, and he should provide you with his pics. 

[Wolfer]

10 hours ago, sync said:

I would say you are being well beyond understanding by regarding your exchange as an "interesting chat."

I did get frustrated at one point. But I always try to stay courteous (up to a fault). It just baffled me he asked to see my nudes while refusing to share his first. 

9 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

He’s monetising his sex life, I expect he is new to this and he won’t be around long. Your pics should not be required, and he should provide you with his pics. 

Looks like it yeah. During the pandemic this reached an all time high with many ads having demands of clients (age, looks, photos). It dwindled after the pandemic ended but there still seem to be some. What surprises me is the number of glowing reviews he has. Looks like plenty of clients have no problem jumping through the hoops. 

[Jamie21]

5 minutes ago, Wolfer said:

What surprises me is the number of glowing reviews he has.

Those are probably from clients he likes. Or they’re fake. 

[DWnyc]

Well his glowing clients could be a filtered set who he’s attracted to and he gives them more than professional attention. Or they could be fake. Read through reviews sometimes and you’ll see the same grammatical mistakes / writing style.

Nice that he thinks he has a business model where he is can paid for regular online hookups. 

Everyone is free to make their own choices here, but I find this grotesque with potential for a lot of abuse by the provider based on his prejudices / “preferences”. That’s all fine, but let him be shamed / let this be known about him and others can decide whether to patronize someone like this. All while appreciating the majority of providers who don’t seem to operate this way. 

[+ tassojunior]

i absolutely hate to say this but my experience is honestly most of the time this has to do with providers not wanting south Asian or certain race clients. it's a real gay escort problem. it's also very risky to give an unknown person an identification photo in sex-hire messaging. 

[+ nycman]

If an escort has hang ups about whom they will see….I’d rather know that ahead of time.

That said….yeah, I’m not spending pics….I’m not the one getting paid. 

[pubic_assistance]

Honestly I don't know how people have sex with random unattractive men.

So God bless those with that ability to hold their nose and go for it .

Clearly this young man isn't possessed with such special skills and yes...is rather monetizing his sex life.

Personally I don't have a problem with that considering he's probably still fucking men he considers below his grade. There's just a line somewhere that he can't manage..and yeah it might be racial / it might be age and it might be obesity.  Everyone has a type and not every provider can get it up for just anyone. 

 

[dbar123]

Sounds like a provider worth avoiding. You will be paying a premium to get second class treatment.  Definitely look elsewhere….

[Guest]

13 hours ago, Wolfer said:

... He asked to see pictures of my face and body (he specified it needed to be nude pictures...

Hell to the no! Wasn't there an entry in the Funnies string about sending deck pictures? These are the only kind I'd send:

[Redwine56]

56 minutes ago, Unicorn said:

Hell to the no! Wasn't there an entry in the Funnies string about sending deck pictures? These are the only kind I'd send:

I'd throw in a few sex toys on the table and tell him I'd rather play with myself than be judged by you.  And if you don't make the cut, he'll probably just block you.  

[DBWEHO]

14 hours ago, Wolfer said:

I contacted him for a massage and sex (he offers both). He asked to see pictures of my face and body (he specified it needed to be nude pictures). The rest of the conversation I have attached through screenshots. 

The weird thing is he has a number of glowing reviews so I guess there's enough clients that don't mind sending all these pictures to providers? For me one of the reasons to hire is so I don't have to do all this (send pics, feel judged etc). But it seems to work for him. Especially that he admitted to giving discounts to clients he finds attractive. 

At least he's completely honest! I did appreciate that. 

 

 

 

 

 

Not worth the hassle. Move on. 

[DWnyc]

4 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Honestly I don't know how people have sex with random unattractive men.

So God bless those with that ability to hold their nose and go for it .

Clearly this young man isn't possessed with such special skills and yes...is rather monetizing his sex life.

Personally I don't have a problem with that considering he's probably still fucking men he considers below his grade. There's just a line somewhere that he can't manage..and yeah it might be racial / it might be age and it might be obesity.  Everyone has a type and not every provider can get it up for just anyone. 

 

With due respect, and obviously I don’t know you so this is not meant in any targeted way, you may be surprised to know what some of your providers may have really felt about you on the “hot scale”, regardless of how you might see yourself. I certainly wouldn’t want to know, especially with those I felt good enough to tip heavily or want a repeat.

Sure everyone can have a type. And if that’s a basis for providers selecting clients, let those who screen have the balls to state it publicly on their profiles. 

It is an open secret among those who take interest in the issue that some providers have a very hostile view towards certain types. And that includes rejecting clients in an abusive way rather than making diplomatic excuses that avoid awkwardness or even just silence if they really feel unable to engage with them. Thankfully that seems to apply only to a handful.

[+ robear]

10 hours ago, DWnyc said:

... you may be surprised to know what some of your providers may have really felt about you on the “hot scale”, regardless of how you might see yourself.

Why would I care?

I show up on time, clean, respectful and sober. Pay as agreed, tip if warranted. That makes me a 10 in this world, regardless of how the provider plays off the clock.

[DWnyc]

3 hours ago, robear said:

Why would I care?

I show up on time, clean, respectful and sober. Pay as agreed, tip if warranted. That makes me a 10 in this world, regardless of how the provider plays off the clock.

I don’t disagree and that’s the way it should be.

I was addressing the point about providers potentially not being able to engage (even for $ rather than their own choice) with those they might not find attractive, and saying that most are likely already doing so.

 

 

[pubic_assistance]

3 hours ago, robear said:

Why would I care?

I show up on time, clean, respectful and sober. Pay as agreed, tip if warranted. That makes me a 10 in this world, regardless of how the provider plays off the clock.

Exactly.

I am a business owner and I am vetting clients all the time because the work is fairly personal, so there needs to be a personality match for it to be a successful relationship.

I see NO reason why an escort service provider can't be picky about his clients, when his business couldn't possibly BE more personal. Instead of complaining and this person, people should be more generous to the young men they hire, who don't worry about how, old, fat or ugly you may be.  It's a special skill to get it up for people you DON'T find attractive.

 

[+ jeezopete]

19 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Hell to the no! Wasn't there an entry in the Funnies string about sending deck pictures? These are the only kind I'd send:

You keep your deck very clean. I'm sure that pleases your partners. 😉

[DWnyc]

I have said in pretty much every comm on this subject that one should appreciate the majority of providers who serve widely.

The issue here isn’t complaining; as someone who typically doesn’t have a problem getting appointments with providers I seek, I can’t rest on that entitlement or take it for granted when it seems some others might be excluded and in an offensive way.

 

[JourneysEnd]

I find it weird to be asked for a picture. It's only happened to me once, when I was visiting Munich last year. Guy on RM who looked great in some photos that were a few years old. He refused to send a more recent photo, which was ok, but then insisted that I send a photo. I stopped contact there. All of the handful of top/vers guys in Munich on RM were weird or flaky. One got offended that I was talking to other escorts. One arranged to meet, was in contact up until a couple of hours before and then nothing until an "oops I forgot message the next day". Strange city.

[maninsoma]

I used to regularly send a naked photo of my backside to guys because I'd rather not have a top who cannot perform with me.  I've since read here that some providers actually view clients sending photos as a red flag, so if I were still in an active hiring phase I'd probably not do that any more unless someone requested it. 

I also used to show my face to a lot of guys I contacted because I met many of them via Adam4Adam and my main photo was of my face.  Maybe I just got lucky, but I never had a problem related to a provider having seen my face.  One thing I've never done and wouldn't do is have a photo that shows both my face and my naked body.

Back to an escort screening out clients based on looks, it might make him seem like a jerk to some potential clients but as a client wouldn't you rather know that someone doesn't want your business so you can avoid him versus wasting time contact him?  There's a guy in my area who has an attractive main photo on Rentmen but his ad headline says he's looking for Asians, so I haven't even bothered to look at his full ad since I'm not of Asian descent.  If I guy's ad indicates he's looking for athletically built clients, then I know not to bother contacting him.  Rather than getting my feelings hurt, it's just easier to move on to the next ad.