justanoldguy Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Everyone seems to be on prep these days, but I want to know HIV, Covid and Monkeypox status. Some don't list any of the 3, eventhough they say anything goes. others list one or 2 which just makes me question why they omitted the other one. I'm tempted just to move past them rather than send a message asking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Gator Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I always assume if they are omitting any of them, then it means they have not been vaxed or they are not on Prep and / or test positive. kyleham, + DrownedBoy, Medin and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamPoundAss Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Could be an oversight if nothing filled out. However, if part is filled out, I think you can assume you know the answer. In ky experience, if nothing is filled out, there’s still a good chance the escort is answering by omission. I’ve seen several left blank that I knew through other sources to be positive, for example. TorontoDrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 I assume everyone is positive or not vaccinated for anything. That is my assumption whether they leave the sections blank, or they give an answer but lie about it. It is MY responsibility to vaccinate myself, to take the pills I need to stop infections, and/or insist on condoms. I wonder how many of us meet a handsome man at the bar and start up a chat, then ask him what his vaccination status for measles, mumps, chicken pox, COVID, HPV, or shingles is! The double standard for escorts seems silly to me. + robear, Kevin Slater, Danny-Darko and 10 others 6 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 When evaluating RM ads for new providers (to me) I check the health status before contacting the escort. I make it a practice to ask if the info is not included in the ad. I reciprocate with my own info. I know some may lie but that happens in other areas of life too. Its always best to take your own precautions but to be open too with communications. Sti's can be transmitted unwittingly so providers and clients alike should inform the other if this occurs. kyleham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enronnja Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, RamPoundAss said: Could be an oversight if nothing filled out. However, if part is filled out, I think you can assume you know the answer. In ky experience, if nothing is filled out, there’s still a good chance the escort is answering by omission. I’ve seen several left blank that I knew through other sources to be positive, for example. This… Why I know this, I have seen providers who up on RM without their status, but they also show up on Scruff or Sniffies and show they are positive/undetectable. But, it kinda creates a little bit of doubt at the same time. But, you have to do your part yourself too and make sure you are on prep and vaccinated. The problem is, if they are not disclosing HIV status, what else might they not be disclosing? Then again, you take your chances no matter the scenario. Luv2play, kyleham, pubic_assistance and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) People are willing to shave their age, increase their height, exaggerate their endowment, etc. in order to be more marketable or desirable - whether they are a provider or a client. There is no reason to assume that people would give truthful information about their health status, or that their listed status is current. It is not safe to make assumptions when it comes to health matters, and it is very risky to accept the status that is listed in the ad as being (a) accurate, and (b) up-to-date. Ultimately everyone has to be responsible for their own protection, and also people need to remember there are many more diseases and conditions one can contract that are not listed on an RM advertisement. Edited January 16, 2023 by CuriousByNature + cougar, + glutes, Danny-Darko and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTMike Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Regardless of what's written everyone all around clients and providers should be safe. I'm 99% sure I recently got Covid from a provider despite him saying he was fine. Ultimately of course my fault for not being more careful and lesson learned. Live your life with vigor but don't downplay known risks. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Always assume everyone is positive (for everything). Only YOU can control your own sexual health. You cannot expect others to do that job for you. Use PrEP. Use Doxy. Get vaxxed. We have a lot of tools at our disposal. Scott Virginian, + Vegas_Millennial, + Charlie and 7 others 5 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyFromIpanema Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Not sure where you draw the line here. There was (is?) a meningococcal disease outbreak affecting gay men (mostly in Florida) in 2022, which killed more people than monkeypox. Are you assuming that an escort who doesn't mention it hasn't been vaccinated ? More or a legit concern than monkeypox at this point. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gymowner Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) On 1/15/2023 at 9:34 PM, BenjaminNicholas said: "Always assume everyone is positive (for everything)." totally understand what you are saying and why you are saying it. i got crabs a few months ago and just slept in the same bed with a gay man. never touched him sexually! my days of sexual contact have been and are totally over. and i mean that! nothing to me is so urgent that i have to get my rocks off that i subject myself to all sort of diseases and afflictions. one bad thing about prep and controlling hiv is that gays are fucking more than animals! std's/sti's are exploding. no thank you there was a tik tok of a drunk gay in wilton manors. he stated something to the effect "you know you are in wilton manor when you get chlamydia twice in a night!" call me a prude and i will happily accept the name plate. Edited February 2, 2023 by Gymowner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilboBaggins Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Many of them do. I've seen a number of positive, not detectable posts. But anyone who meets men or women for entertainment has to be careful. Like Benjamin said, always assume everyone is positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Undetectable people often leave their HIV status blank. Technically, they are negative, but if they forget to take their pills, they could spread again. Enronnja and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 People who are pos undetectable have to undergo regular testing to ensure they remain as such. They receive a test result which is dated and can be shown to sexual partners It is incumbent on partners to ask if in any doubt. I would think that most if not all rational people who are infected but on meds that keep them undetectable have a very strong incentive not to forget to take their pills. After all their own life depends on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterhumphries Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 There are too many assumptions -- assuming as escort is positive if it's not mentioned in his profile, assuming that EVERYONE is positive. Remember the old joke of what happens when you assume "IT MAKES AN ASS OF U AND ME" I agree with Benjamin Nicholas that regardless of what you might suspect about anyone else's sexual history or health status, we are each responsible for ourselves. Except for Covid and monkeypox, proper and constant use of a condom can help remove worries about transmission of most STDs. Problem is there is a wave of men who now want to revert to the pre-AIDS days and have raw sex with total abandon since PREP is available. Gymowner and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I know of several examples where providers won’t meet a client if they request safe and I think this is just the RM world catching up with that of hookups and dating. And of two prominent providers, well-known on this forum, who friends have told me, stealthed (ie removed a condom without permission after promising to use one). I also have heard - in one case directly from a provider himself, in another from a friend seeing a provider’s status on a dating site, that a negative status on RM is different from what they have presented elsewhere. It’s not enough to just have a conversation and leave it at that. I’m not naming names - not getting into why this may be the case for these folks, but just reiterating, it’s incumbent on us to use the tools at our disposal, and not rely on someone else to maintain what we prefer as comfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Demanding/expecting/relying on Health “disclosures” crack me up for many reasons: 1.) It’s naive to assume that a complete stranger is actually telling the truth. 2.) Test result “dates” expire faster than store coupons; as the moment the said individual actually takes the test, ends the period of “prevention” as soon as they have any sexual contact with anyone else. So by the time your potential playmate gets their test results back, those results are out of date and useless. 3.) The idea that anyone would sort their sexual safety/precautionary practices based on what someone says to them is just as naive as getting on the road without a seat belt, because all of the other drivers said they are sober and took a driver’s exam…. Protect yourself, take the proper precautions for you. You are responsible for your own health. pubic_assistance, + José Soplanucas and + Vegas_Millennial 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 1/16/2023 at 12:34 AM, BenjaminNicholas said: Always assume everyone is positive (for everything). Only YOU can control your own sexual health. You cannot expect others to do that job for you. Use PrEP. Use Doxy. Get vaxxed. We have a lot of tools at our disposal. You mentioned doxy a couple of years ago and I started adding that to my regimen in early 2022. You never stated that it would also clear up any acne too!!! Best side-effect ever!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gymowner Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 so through all of this "crap".... do all of you men really want to still have sex? is it that uncontrollable that you go into a sexual romp "thinking everyone you have sex with is positive or has and std? ewww..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Gymowner said: so through all of this "crap".... do all of you men really want to still have sex? is it that uncontrollable that you go into a sexual romp "thinking everyone you have sex with is positive or has and std? ewww..... Imo you have a very sex negative attitude. I'm the opposite; I have a sex positive attitude. Had one all my adult life and I'm 75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gymowner Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) I'm not negative on sex, I'm negative on diseases. Edited February 3, 2023 by Gymowner + glutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ JEC Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Gymowner said: so through all of this "crap".... do all of you men really want to still have sex? is it that uncontrollable that you go into a sexual romp "thinking everyone you have sex with is positive or has and std? ewww..... You know this is a site dedicated to escorting right? Scott Virginian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gymowner Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 yes i do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Why don't we give an answer to this thread: "You can't trust anybody - including escorts and providers - on their health status. Always be safe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Fortunately we are now at a point in time compared to 15-20+ years ago - where if you manage your own safety and health (whether you are negative or positive) - the other person’s HIV status shouldn’t really affect you. And if it does (eg you are not on prep and relying on others doing so to lower your risk) simply asking the other person their status (or not even doing that as they state it on their profile and you rely on that) is insanity. And in answer to the original question - just like a parallel discussion going on here on why a provider may say “vers top” if they’re not really vers) - it expands their potential client pool. Many negative clients (or those that think they are negative) - even if on prep - would avoid a provider who declares themselves undetectable (rather than keeps quiet on the whole subject). I’ve heard of providers carrying paperwork to demonstrate if someone wants to see their latest test results - but who actually goes that far to check, and how would someone concerned about all this be able to verify the paperwork was accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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