Puerto Vallarta Escorts

[Luv2play]

6 hours ago, Epigonos said:

If one goes to a beach resort, anywhere in the world, seeking indigenous culture one should think again. 

 

Rio may be an exception. It's pretty authentic Brazilian, imo. I suppose you could quibble about whether it's a beach resort, but the beaches are a large reason why tourists visit.

[+ José Soplanucas]

27 minutes ago, Luv2play said:

Rio may be an exception. It's pretty authentic Brazilian, imo. I suppose you could quibble about whether it's a beach resort, but the beaches are a large reason why tourists visit.

I do not think beaches are what makes a resort. It is rather the artificiality of impersonal modern comfort and the isolation from the locals regular life. There are plenty of beach cities and towns that are not resorts. 

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I think it’s a west coast west Canada thing.  When I lived in the Midwest nobody talked about PV but in SF everybody goes to PV

[xyz48B]

Resorts are places where Americans (and sometimes Japanese) can go abroad but not have to engage with the local culture. I’m heading to a resort in Scotland with an escort at the end of April. We are looking forward to the resort, to be sure. It’s gorgeous. But we’ve already committed to do things off-resort, including driving about. The resort planners wanted to book us for “tours” (read: activities) on-resort, but we’re not really interested in that. I told him I want to go to a local restaurant every. One of the best things about traveling is sampling local cuisine. This is where you have to be savvy with looking up reviews online.

I was surprised how many folks who stay at this resort pay for tax or other ride services simply to avoid renting a car and driving on the opposite side of the road. That doesn’t bother me at all. And renting a car is much cheaper than ride services. Unless of course you’re going to spend the whole vacation on-resort.

Resort vacationing can be a lot of fun, but you have to know how to plan if you want a taste of the local way of life. And even then, you’re still a tourist.

[DapperGent]

8 hours ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

Frankly, Mykonos is a shell of itself now anyway.  It's not what is was.  Not even close.  

The heyday of Pieros was a shit ton of fun

Agreed about CDMX.  It's an incredible city.  Manhattan on steroids.  

Agree @jetlow @Benjamin_Nicholas CDMX is an incredible city, I had fun and even fell in love when I was there for work. Looking forward to return… to meaty uncut slightly musky brown cockssss 🤤🤤🤤🤤

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2 hours ago, xyz48B said:

Resorts are places where Americans (and sometimes Japanese) can go abroad but not have to engage with the local culture. I’m heading to a resort in Scotland with an escort at the end of April. We are looking forward to the resort, to be sure. It’s gorgeous. But we’ve already committed to do things off-resort, including driving about. The resort planners wanted to book us for “tours” (read: activities) on-resort, but we’re not really interested in that. I told him I want to go to a local restaurant every. One of the best things about traveling is sampling local cuisine. This is where you have to be savvy with looking up reviews online.

I was surprised how many folks who stay at this resort pay for tax or other ride services simply to avoid renting a car and driving on the opposite side of the road. That doesn’t bother me at all. And renting a car is much cheaper than ride services. Unless of course you’re going to spend the whole vacation on-resort.

Resort vacationing can be a lot of fun, but you have to know how to plan if you want a taste of the local way of life. And even then, you’re still a tourist.

sometimes it’s a safety issue though.  it’s dangerous to be in PV at night not at a resort.  you need to take cars hailed by employees or you may get “arrested” and forced to cough up money.     

[+ Italiano]

15 hours ago, Benjamin_Nicholas said:

Frankly, Mykonos is a shell of itself now anyway.  It's not what is was.  Not even close.  

The heyday of Pieros was a shit ton of fun

Agreed about CDMX.  It's an incredible city.  Manhattan on steroids.  

I agree @Benjamin_Nicholas!

I lived in Mexico City from 1990 to 2000. I LOVE CDMX, I LOVE Mexico! I will be back next month to work for 10 days in CDMX, Monterrey and Morelia, can't wait.

Back then I used to go often to PV, to Tulum, to Playa, to Cipolite, to Pie de la Cuesta, to Los Cabos...I went once to Cancun and once to Acapulco in those years but it was too much for me even then, I can't imagine now!

Those were the days were even if tourism of course was present, you could really feel Mexican authenticity.

Vallarta was LOTS of fun but it still felt like a charming little town. After I went back last year to Tulum and was horrified, I think I prefer to keep my memories of PV of the early 90s. La Terraza was my favorite gay bar, oh my, how many hot men I met there, when I was hot too! And the fabulous shows of stripper boys fucking papayas, wow!

When I lived in Italy I went 4 times to Mykonos in the 80s. It was A M A Z I N G. Fun and gorgeous, and still with uncontaminated beaches. Yes, Pierros was amazing!  I went back 10 years ago and I almost didn't recognize it.

I know that I am not the same that I was in the 80s and 90s too....😬🤷‍♂️

 

Sorry if this post has nothing to do with PV Escorts.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Italiano

[Guest MikeThomas]

11 hours ago, jeepo1 said:

I think it’s a west coast west Canada thing.  When I lived in the Midwest nobody talked about PV but in SF everybody goes to PV

PV is very popular for Chicagoans and Dallas peeps.  Although a lot of Dallas peeps also like San Miguel.

[Luv2play]

49 minutes ago, Lucky said:

The first time I went to PV in the 80's, the only gay bar was The Balcony, and it was dead.

Acapulco was a lot of fun.

I went to Acapulco in '85 with my then boyfriend and while it was fun, we didn't get a gay vibe there at all. On the beach in front of our hotel, all the guys were straight, many gorgeous but with their girlfriends. We didn't find one gay club. Also the water was filthy. I wouldn't go back.

[Epigonos]

Pre covid19 I used to go to Puerto Vallarta twice a year once in November and once in March/April. The weather was great. The summers in P.V. are awful – extremely hot and humid. I always stayed in the old town in a condo overlooking the pier. Every city in the world has districts in which one should not walk around alone late at night.That is equally true of Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, London, Paris, and Rome as it is of Puerto Vallarta. I have always felt safe walking the streets of old town Puerto Vallarta regardless of the time of day or of night. I often walked home from the stripper bar Wet at one or two in the morning and never felt threatened.

I have always enjoyed shopping for Mexican Arts & Crafts in a multitude of great shops in P.V. The only place, in Mexico, having better restaurants than Puerto Vallarta is Mexico City. To name just three: 1.) Trio wonderful continental food in a lovely setting, 2.) Café de Artistes patio dinning that is drop dead gorgeous and excellent food. It is pretentious but worth a visit, and 3.) No Se Nada Bar y Restaurante serves outstanding Mexican food. The fish is especially good.

Now that covid19 seems to be winding down I am looking forward to returning to my old haunts in Puerto Vallarta. However, first, after a forty-year hiatus, I need to make a visit to Mexico City which I hope to do in November.

P.S. Returning to topic over the years I have picked up, more than a few, damn good looking dancer from the stripper bar "Wet".  Most are happy to make arrangements to meet after the bar closes or the next afternoon, at my condo, for some fun and games.  There are a couple other stripper bars where similar arrangements can be made with the dancers.  It is just that I have always preferred "Wet"

Edited March 7, 2022 by Epigonos

[+ WilliamM]

27 minutes ago, Epigonos said:

Pre covid19 I used to go to Puerto Vallarta twice a year once in November and once in March/April. The weather was great. The summers in P.V. are awful – extremely hot and humid. I always stayed in the old town in a condo overlooking the pier. Every city in the world has districts in which one should not walk around alone late at night.

That is equally true of Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, London, Paris, and Rome as it is of Puerto Vallarta. I have always felt safe walking the streets of old town Puerto Vallarta regardless of the time of day or of night. I often walked home from the stripper bar Wet at one or two in the morning and never felt threatened.

I have always enjoyed shopping for Mexican Arts & Crafts in a multitude of great shops in P.V. The only place, in Mexico, having better restaurants than Puerto Vallarta is Mexico City. To name just three: 1.) Trio wonderful continental food in a lovely setting, 2.) Café de Artistes patio dinning that is drop dead gorgeous and excellent food. It is pretentious but worth a visit, and 3.) No Se Nada Bar y Restaurante serves outstanding Mexican food. The fish is especially good.

Now that covid19 seems to be winding down I am looking forward to returning to my old haunts in Puerto Vallarta. However, first, after a forty-year hiatus, I need to make a visit to Mexico City which I hope to do in November.

P.S. Returning to topic over the years I have picked up, more than a few, damn good looking dancer from the stripper bar "Wet".  Most are happy to make arrangements to meet after the bar closes or the next afternoon, at my condo, for some fun and games.  There are a couple other stripper bars where similar arrangements can be made with the dancers.  It is just that I have always preferred "Wet"

Stockholm doesn't have places where one should not walk at night 

[Epigonos]

To be totally honest WilliamM I found your response to my comment on urban safety petty.  Now I'll state right up front that my response is going to be equally petty.  Twenty or even ten years ago your comments regarding safety in Stockholm would have been correct.  Not today.  Like most cities in Europe the last ten years, in Stockholm, has seen a marked increase in criminal gang activities in several parts of the city. That is particularly true in the area adjoining the main railway station. This information can be found in police reports as well as online comments by city residents.  The level of crime might NOT be as high as it is in some of the cities I sited BUT it is there and it behooves tourists to be aware of it 

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[maninsoma]

Also note that the allegation about PV was that the cops will pick you up to shake you down if you are walking alone.  I'm not saying that never happens in PV; I've certainly read about it before.  I have to wonder whether I have been incredibly lucky as have my friends and all of the many acquaintances I've met during many trips to PV.  I've never personally been harassed by the police there; my only interaction with law enforcement has been to walk by and acknowledge their presence with a nod or whatnot.  I've never heard a first-hand account from someone who was harassed by the police.  I only use a car service if I'm going to or from the airport, so that means I'm walking around day and night.  Since I typically travel alone, I am frequently walking by myself. 

I've written here before: I feel much safer walking by myself in PV at midnight or 1:00 a.m. than I do where I live (San Francisco).  If I'm out late here and at all intoxicated, I'd definitely get a Lyft home versus walking even 10 minutes.  I don't even like walking around by myself at night when I'm totally sober.

[MscleLovr]

2 hours ago, Epigonos said:

Stockholm, has seen a marked increase in criminal gang activities in several parts

I agree with @Epigonos but also it has become hazardous for gay men, as well as women, walking singly at night. Swedish friends living there have told me of this. 
 

Sadly, the same is true of Geneva which has changed over the last 8-10 years. I know of 2 cases where a man was attacked in the evening. 

[+ JEC]

@Epigonos having just returned from PV, Wet is no longer the hot bar (in fact it was quite dreary), Club 69 (2 doors down) is!   And I mean hot 🔥

Enjoy!

Jack

 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

8 hours ago, MikeThomas said:

PV is very popular for Chicagoans and Dallas peeps.  Although a lot of Dallas peeps also like San Miguel.

Very true.

Going to PV as a Dallasite means you're going to run into 30% of the gay population you already know.

It makes things a little less interesting, to me.

I also felt that way about Santa Fe, but since it's an older, more monied crowd, at least they were more interesting to sit around, have a cocktail and chat with.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

2 hours ago, maninsoma said:

Also note that the allegation about PV was that the cops will pick you up to shake you down if you are walking alone.  I'm not saying that never happens in PV; I've certainly read about it before.  I have to wonder whether I have been incredibly lucky as have my friends and all of the many acquaintances I've met during many trips to PV.  I've never personally been harassed by the police there; my only interaction with law enforcement has been to walk by and acknowledge their presence with a nod or whatnot.  I've never heard a first-hand account from someone who was harassed by the police.  I only use a car service if I'm going to or from the airport, so that means I'm walking around day and night.  Since I typically travel alone, I am frequently walking by myself. 

I've written here before: I feel much safer walking by myself in PV at midnight or 1:00 a.m. than I do where I live (San Francisco).  If I'm out late here and at all intoxicated, I'd definitely get a Lyft home versus walking even 10 minutes.  I don't even like walking around by myself at night when I'm totally sober.

Mexican PD shakedowns are much more common when driving through smaller places within the interior, but not so much in the standard touristy areas.  They're smart enough to know not to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

As was told to me by friends who are nationals, have $100 in $20s available in the event you're pulled over and they confiscate your driver's license.  It's a small price to pay to get your ID back and not spend any time in a Mexican jail.

 

[Guest MikeThomas]

Rumor has it that the block including Flamingo and La Noche will be torn down for more "modern" condos.  I hope not.

[Epigonos]

In all my years of traveling in Mexico, frequently driving my own car, I was only hit up once for a bribe by a police officer.  I was driving my jeep from the border to San Felipe on the Gulf of California.  I played totally dump and continued to happily chat with the cop, in Spanish, until he finally got bored with the process and told be to be on my way.  The lesson learned was to be nice and talk them to death.  Damn I'm still quite good at that.

[+ DrownedBoy]

I have to ask - if you don't want to use RM, is it easy enough to pick up guys for hiring? Or safe?

[Luv2play]

21 hours ago, latbear4blk said:

I do not think beaches are what makes a resort. It is rather the artificiality of impersonal modern comfort and the isolation from the locals regular life. There are plenty of beach cities and towns that are not resorts. 

I agree with you and my comments on Rio were misplaced. Years ago the ultimate resorts were Clubmeds, which generally were completely cut off from the surrounding communities. I actually enjoyed them for awhile back in the 80s.

Also ski resorts are mostly remote isolated communities but do feature the food of the surrounding culture, especially the ones I have been to in Europe.

[excelntsvc]

On 3/7/2022 at 9:01 AM, MikeThomas said:

PV is very popular for Chicagoans and Dallas peeps.  Although a lot of Dallas peeps also like San Miguel.

ah but as much as i love san miguel, i've yet to find much escort action

[Guest MikeThomas]

10 hours ago, excelntsvc said:

ah but as much as i love san miguel, i've yet to find much escort action

😀I guess it’s the kind of place you bring your own

[+ Italiano]

On 3/7/2022 at 6:24 PM, Epigonos said:

In all my years of traveling in Mexico, frequently driving my own car, I was only hit up once for a bribe by a police officer.  I was driving my jeep from the border to San Felipe on the Gulf of California.  I played totally dump and continued to happily chat with the cop, in Spanish, until he finally got bored with the process and told be to be on my way.  The lesson learned was to be nice and talk them to death.  Damn I'm still quite good at that.

I lived in Mexico City for 10 years throughout the 1990s. It happened to me twice.

Once at a traffic light which I crossed with a yellow light when I was stopped by a police woman, and got away with a 300 Mexican Pesos (about $10) bribe and a compliment on my blue eyes, and another for a broken back light when I got away exactly like you, it was clear they wanted to bribe me but I kept playing dumb talking and talking in Spanish with my Italian accent and explaining that I would have been late for a formal dinner at the house of the Italian Consul who was my uncle (not true), and they let me go....😬

[gdgd85]

On 3/6/2022 at 11:20 PM, jeepo1 said:

sometimes it’s a safety issue though.  it’s dangerous to be in PV at night not at a resort.  you need to take cars hailed by employees or you may get “arrested” and forced to cough up money.     

May I ask where you are getting your information? Unless this has personally happened to you or a loved one then this is absolutely fear mongering. I have been to PV twice in the last year and have a friend who lives near Zona Romantica. I walked alone day and night and had zero issue and always felt safe. I have encountered police and have had no confrontation or hostility. I agree with the other person who stated that they felt safer walking alone in PV than they do in certain American cities. As others have said here, I am not saying things like this never happen (just as shootings, theft, crime and corruption also happen in American cities) but insinuating that it is the norm is completely inaccurate.