KensingtonHomo

No. It is not hypocritical to say that people have a right to bodily autonomy AND that it's wrong for you to take a well-known person and pick them apart publicly. It means I see providers, porn actors, whatever as full human beings, that do not exist solely or primarily for my sexual gratification. Conflating what you did with reviewing a restaurant or a piece of art is literally dehumanizing. You're comparing these man to inanimate objects. But people are not restaurants or statues. And you are not discussing a service he provided, like massage, or saying a restaurant's food wasn't to your taste. You are criticizing his body and his appearance on a semi-public forum, which he could see. Again, if I posted pictures of you and went through all the ways I perceive your appearance to be flawed how would you feel?

I have to agree with @BtmBearDad. All of this reads as an assumption that some of you have a right to these men's bodies. Or that you have a stake in how their bodies look. There's very little difference between this kind of toxic masculine entitlement and anti-abortion zealots. These escorts are people who deserve bodily autonomy. How would any of you feel if I posted pictures of you and slammed your looks? Or maybe I should start a thread on how I think tanning is gross. "Why do these beautiful young men scar and age themselves with tanning?" Maybe I should start a lengthy thread on my dislike of facial hair and how it obscures handsome faces? If you do not care for an escorts looks, DO NOT BOOK him. But creating threads picking apart people's looks is presumptuous and dehumanizing. Tattoos are a frequent topic but there's lots of dehumanizing conversations about escorts that really should be removed by the moderators.

Strong Strokes is in the LES, not far from Chinatown. https://rentmasseur.com/StrongStrokes

I texted him yesterday morning but no response thus far.

I feel like if they're not positioning themselves as bottoms, that's fine. You could always reach out and ask if they're willing to bottom for you. I'd be more concerned with a provider saying they're a specific role and not being to perform.

I agree with this. I'm not opening any further accounts. Also, the deposit should be no more than 25 percent of the rate. So, if it's $200/hour then $50. The point of the deposit is to hold the time and lock people in.

I've noticed a few of these too. I think it's odd when they claim a preference and show the opposite assets.

I haven't met him but he's cute and definitely my type.

We got vaccinated about three weeks ago. So we're not that concerned but are checking with providers if they're also been vaccinated.

I'm confused. Is this post about @BenjaminNicholas? Is there a long-running feud?

I love how you're trying to be shady by suggesting that other clients on here aren't wealthy enough to "afford" $500/hour. It just makes you come across as either condescending or full of it. I'll let everyone make up their own minds about which it is. Either way, it's not a very appealing attribute.

The median US income is $31,000; it's $34,000 in NYC. I assume most people here make more than that because they have disposable income to hire providers. And I assume most of us do not have the expense of children. Our income is MANY times that, but the juice still has to be worth the squeeze. Ultimately, for us hiring is a matter of convenience. We don't wish to waste our time on apps, and we don't hang out in bars or clubs much anymore. So the cost of hiring has to be worth saving that time. And for us that is generally going to fall in the $250-$400/hour range.

What if it's $1,000? $3,000? $5,000?

Yes, this is the point. Saying someone is cheap because they don't want to pay a 200% increase for a service in three years is just nonsense. If a plumber charged 200% more for fixing a pipe than they did in 2020, I think most people would think that was outrageous. Of course, the guys are dealing with inflation as are we all, so I understand a move from $200-$250 or $250-$300, but a base rate going from $300 to $500 in 18 months is a bit much. Of course, if they can get it, more power to them. But they are pricing a lot of guys out of the market, and - as I said - I have not the guys who want $500 to be better than those who want $300. YMMV, but I've had the opposite experience. The more they charge, the worse the service is.

I'm in my 40s and, yes, lot of twinks approach me and my husband; want us to be their daddies. But we're not into that. I'm a bottom and generally go for guys who are anywhere from late 20s to early 60s. I expect as I age that will go late 30s to early 70s, etc. I'm not into young twinks but I like skinny lanky men. And there are many - though probably still a minority - of younger tops who are into bottoms older than them. We've met both professionals and just guys from apps. I also find that millenials and Gen Z tend to be vers regardless of if they're butch, femme or somewhere in between.

Hmmm, we're still seeing a lot of $250 from guys we've been in the past (maybe we're grandfathered in) and $300. Honestly, we've gone hire a few times for guys who were ridiculously hot and the experiences were not worth the price. I find guys who are more "natural" in physique, handsome but not Godlike, etc, tend to be better escorts in terms of communication, playfulness and sexual skill. But this guy is super hot, so I might go $350 for him but generally that's our ceiling. It's not about being cheap; it's about prioritizing how we want to spend our money.

I rarely tip for the reasons @robear pointed out. The provider has set the price, and I've agreed to it. With a massage or other service in a spa I always tip but I don't go to spas for erotic massages. I have at times tipped providers who took me last minute or otherwise went above and beyond. We also tend to be return clients.

I texted him twice and he never responded. I suspect this is a side hustle to whatever he actually does for money.

I'm not opposed to making a deposit when I see someone for the first time. I'm generally willing to do 25% of the overall fee. More than that seems excessive.

I agree that being clear about what you want is key. Some providers are more or less willing to discuss extras over text. Based on your description, I think Nick Halden would be a good option. He does erotic massage and escorting so he's comfortable with extras. https://rentmasseur.com/Nickhalden

He's really hot. Curious to hear how it goes.

We went yesterday and our experience was very similar.

There are very few masseurs that live in P Town. You generally get people who are there at the same time you are. Hard to plan in advance. The spas do not have any sensual twists.

OMG. Did he watch Pretty Woman?

Interesting. I texted him the other day and never got a response. I'm not into the upcharges and I don't like the space on 14 & 6th. I prefer a private location, so I'll pass.