KensingtonHomo

I don't do it with any great regularity. Maybe twice a month. I also tend to stick to a stable of regulars who are diverse enough that it doesn't get boring.

I know I could do it. I like sex and have a broad palate of what I find attractive. I also find being desired a huge turn on. I wasn't muscular - but I was a ginger twink with a great ass. I had offers in the early 90s - one from a high-end Madame with a stable of girls and boys. But as someone who is primarily a bottom, I didn't want to risk the chance of HIV.

Me and my husband are booking a Greek isle cruise on Virgin Voyages for this June. We're told is super gay friendly and generally 15-30 percent gay folks on board. I'm curious if anyone on here has been and what your experience was like.

I have never once said yes to an upsell. And I do not repeat with any provider who does it. I have noticed @parkneedler that guys who upsell tend to have bad skills. In my experience, they're usually very conventionally "hot" and act like they're doing you a favor. It's a complete turn off.

LOL - I should have said 98% of men have gross feet. I'm in the 2% that doesn't.

Most of my tattoos are memorial or directly related to my culture. So, no, they're not stupid. I honestly can't imagine caring if someone chooses to tattoo or not tattoo their body. Same with hair color, nail polish, etc. If you don't find something attractive, don't hire that person. Personally, I find 98 percent of men's feet to be gross. And when a provider puts his feet in his profile, I wince. But I don't comment because some of you are into feet.

I suspect it goes both ways. Some of my worst hires have been conventionally attractive 9s and 10s, who were boring or really bad at sex.

You look great. I agree that the copy is is fun and engaging. I’m also not sure you should cite reviews you don’t have. But saying you’ve come back is good to include. When you say “natural man scent” does that mean you don’t wear deodorant? If so, I think you should be explicit about it. I have an extremely acute sense of smell. So though I think you’re sexy, I couldn’t hire you. 🥲

It looks like $10,000 between massages and providers last year but there are two of us. Honestly I’m surprised it’s that much and will probably cut back this year.

I feel like this is a hospital situation, not a massage situation. 😷

I noticed that erotic was showing up only intermittently. I wonder if they're trying to get ahead of the BS that's made Pornhub inoperable in a bunch of states.

I agree with your assessment. I object to it being naturalized as "the way it is" when it's really the result of historical circumstances and billions of dollars in marketing and advertising. We can choose to be kinder, gentler and better to each other. The cultural tide is turning against us and we need solidarity. It's hard to build community is we're treating each other like shit on hook up apps.

I guess if we're parsing words, I said that twinks became "A List" in the 2010s, following the "muscle boy" craze that came out of steroid use for PWAs in the mid-90s before the cocktail. So, yes, twinks were a thing, and they were on a spectrum from that to a muscle boy, but MOST gay men in the 1960s through the early '90s had a diversity of body types that we would mainly now consider "average." You can see that this was the "ideal" through all the porn and blue boy magazines going back to the 1950s. My theory is that the rise of "twinks" and "daddies" as alternate ideals in the late 2010s is a response to the 30 years of men feeling like they had to look like Chris Evans in the Avengers to get laid. And also everyone had the same body, which is boring.

Our culture has undeniably coarsened; much of it is driven by predatory capitalism, out-of-control individualism, and social media. And, sure, there were always guys who acted like pricks in gay bars or clubs, but they tended to be a minority. "Twinks" were not an A List category until the 2010s. I spent most of my 20s being told I was "too skinny" (I wasn't but the rise of the "chelsea boy" made everyone not on roids too skinny.) Sure, nice bodies have always had currency but my friend group had all types and they all found people who were attracted to them. Oddly, me and my husband are pursued by guys in their 20s all the time now. Those "A List" twinks. I guess the Daddy phase has its benefits. And we're both in good shape but not ripped or super muscular. Unfortunately, neither of us really find that type attractive. But we're still nice to them online or in person. All that said, I do not feel anyone is obliged to respond to someone who sends you 10 hole or dick pics without even a modicum of conversation. That person is not being well-mannered or respectful either.

It's not about growing old. My millennial and Gen Z friends complain about the lack of basic manners on these platforms. Ultimately, it's a choice to accept or reject this coarsening of our culture.

Putting aside the RM angle here, I have to disagree with you. If someone said "hello" to you in a bar, club, or supermarket line, you would not just ignore them. You would briefly chat with them and then extricate yourself from the situation—hopefully with some kindness. Allowing ourselves to treat others as less than human on apps or dating sites is callous. Treating other people as human beings is just good manners. My millennial friends constantly complain about being ghosted and blocked without explanation. This "I don't owe anyone my time or explanation" attitude is not the boss move it's portrayed as. Rather, it's an avoidance of an uncomfortable interaction that is making our culture more atomistic and less humane as more people do it. 85% of the guys who hit us up on the apps are not our type. Mostly, they're very young, 18-25, and they open by referring to us as "daddies." I ignore them if they have a blank profile because our profile says "NPNC." Otherwise, I'll do the brief exchange and then say, "Thanks so much for reaching out, but we prefer men closer to our age." The other guy usually says, "Oh, thank you for letting me know." It doesn't take much more time than ignoring someone, and I've treated them like a human being.

We're not allowed to discuss politics here. So Google her.

Exactly, she's a monster.

Contrary to WestGuy and @Mk27, I have been rimmed by multiple masseurs without even asking for it. Some guys are really into a juicy looking ass. 🤭

That message would be such a turnoff to me.

They’re not giving up either.

This is true. Pornhub became illegal in 16 states today. And I suspect those are the states that also want to catch gay men, immigrants, etc, to prove we’re perverts. And the definition of Trafficking has been completely abused. The combination of old school feminism and religion makes for a particularly noxious blend.

I don't have the time or the inclination to waste a provider's time. I suspect some providers use it because I get a green SMS response when I text them, but when I met them, we both had iPhones. A few months ago, a provider kind of screwed me over after I sent a deposit. He was using his personal line, which meant I could identify him by his home address and workplace. I considered letting him know how exposed he was but it felt like mutually assured destruction as I had used my primary phone. That's what made me move to Burner. My job is semi-public and - much like those who insist on cash - I don't want an electronic trail.

Can I ask what comments made you feel this way?

In addition to Signal and WhatsApp, there's an app called Burner, which gives you a separate number that you can use for private matters and turn the notifications off. It costs a few dollars but I like having it so I don't have to give out my actual number or risk a text from a provider popping up when my nephew has my phone.