KensingtonHomo

Prejudice is also constantly judging people as "fat ugly and out of shape." I honestly don't care who you fuck as long as it's not me. You get dragged because you constantly put down providers and clients, who do not meet your exacting standards, which are de facto incredibly biased along race, class, ethnicity, etc. Not only do you want to fuck some incredibly tedious version of masculinity, but you think the rest of us should want that too. Worse, not only are you judgmental about who other people are fucking, you're incredibly thin-skinned when called on it.

People hire for a variety of wants, needs and desires. For some people, it is to achieve their "dream fuck." I don't think such a thing exists so that's not my goal. We hire primarily for convenience. It's difficult as a couple, especially one past our partying days, to find the types of men we enjoy on the apps. We tend to be approached mostly by much younger (early 20s) twink-ish guys, who have a "Daddy" fantasy in person and on the apps. We did actually meet one young guy on Scruff who we had a few nice evenings with. But by hiring we spend our money to save time. We also avoid potential emotional entanglements.

I wasn't referring to you. And I've never once said anyone must hire a certain provider or type of provider. This is a conversation about social and cultural phenomena. That people I'm assuming are grown adults, can't do that without feeling attacked is what's wrong with this country.

Someone is VERY sensitive about his predilections. I didn't say you were racist, nor do I think people who have an orientation toward one gender over the other are misogynist or misandrist. You've revealed quite a lot about yourself with this remark. I won't, in fact, fuck anything that moves. I've just developed a far broader and more diverse palette than I had growing up (and than you). But you assume a broad palette means lesser quality; as if I'm eating Mcdonald's and you're dining on caviar. The reality is that we're not WIRED for anything. Our orientation develops through genetics, hormones, socialization, etc. And our tastes tend to reflect the culture we grew up in. The former can be broadened somewhat, but the latter is far more elastic. In your own words, you are almost exclusively interested in younger, extremely fit, muscular bottoms. I also suspect this is why you think "fat and ugly people" must hire. Because to get what you desire, you have to hire. I don't see it that way at all. You have my sympathy, if not my empathy.

It's not ridiculous. Sure, my sexual orientation excludes most women. But as someone who grew up in a very racist neighborhood, I've worked on my own consciousness. That doesn't make me color-blind (which is delusional) but it has opened me up to a wider range of men I find attractive than I did when I went to college. Similarly, I had a very specific "type" when I first came out (white, working class, ethnic, butch), but as I had more experiences, I found myself open to a greater variety of men in all shapes and sizes. If you would have told me at 17 that I'd end up with a "movie star" handsome, masculine, musical theater actor from the south, I'd have laughed in your face. When I first came out, all of my friends were black and Latino, and I hung out mostly in POC spaces. I wasn't found particularly desirable by most in those spaces, not because I'm white but because I'm femme. That situation improved slightly when I hung out with a more academic crowd, but not by much. I feel somewhat sorry for guys on here who are only attracted to a hyper-specific type. It really robs you of the opportunity to experience desire, sex, pleasure in so many forms.

Europeans are thinner than Americans is that they have more walkable cities, get far more time for vacation and recreation, have universal or accessible healthcare, and their agriculture policy is far better than hours. You can chart the spike in overweight Americans to us subsidizing corn in the 1970s, then factory jobs go away, the suburbs expand, and cheap, processed food because easy to access. It's all policy and it has resulted in the average Americans finding it much harder to stay fit and trim than they did 50 years ago. But Americans are also told to blame individuals for their circumstances, which is the greatest trick the rich ever pulled on this citizenry. And then those who have more time or more money or are genetically lucky, treat overweight and obese people like they're moral failures. You could be in solidarity with overweight and obese people, demanding a 35-hour work week, better public transportation, Medicare for All, outlawing high fructose corn syrup, and increasing the minimum wage, so healthy food is affordable. But, nah, you're on here sniping that no one finds overweight people attractive.

$1,000 for a massage and I assume some extras is far too much. And he's not commanding that price or he'd not have contacted the OP again. He may occasionally be able to get someone to pay $1k but he's priced himself more than double the going rate of NYC.

There are many attractive overweight men. I haven’t hired anyone who’d be considered obese because there aren’t many who advertise. Or maybe I don’t know where to find them. But I’ve certainly hired some thick, bear types and hooked up with some heavy guys. For me, limiting oneself to a hyper specific type would be boring.

There's lots of good advice here. I'm in NYC and there's lots of great guys here. However, they are highly concentrated in Manhattan. So as @KennF suggested, offering to get them to you is great. I live in a borough that is not Manhattan and it can be hard to get guys to come here (like 30 minutes by train). However, we have found guys who do outcalls and live in our borough, much closer to us. Sometimes they'll take an inexpensive cab over. Some ride their bikes. Another option would be to come to Manhattan for an evening, maybe check out a show, get a hotel for the night and set it up with an escort in advance. If you're looking for a BFE experience, it could be like a fun date night. My caution there would be to make sure you're dealing with a solid pro, who is not going to flake on you. I definitely have guys I would recommend for such a situation.

Still slandering female escorts on a forum for gay men... It's positively Freudian.

I had an oddly busy weekend with family stuff, but I will write up a run down. He does need to update his pics. He's a nice-looking guy, but a bit thicker than in those pics.

I love the male privilege embedded in "in shape only" as if women sex workers haven't been dealing with the grossest possible men since the dawn of humanity. I feel hygiene is essential for provider and client, but the rest of it is just being a bit of a dick.

Same. Even when we hire, we aim for diverse guys with an interesting look. “Conventionally hot” usually equals boring in bed.

This is a topic worth searching. The combo of inflation plus NYC being super-expensive is driving an uptick in prices. For me, I'm rarely willing to pay $500/hour. But I also notice that price point is more typical among young guys (early 20s to maybe early 30s). My preference is late 30s to early 40s. Unless they're a porn star, I find that those guys are charging $300-$350.

I suspect I would have insisted on some amount - again, just for his time. But I also think you did nothing wrong. I'm curious about the providers on here if they use "assistance" to stay hard with their clients. Everyone, myself included, can just be tired or have had a bad day, but if I were doing it professionally, I'd want to prepare for contingencies. But I also recognize there are side effects of viagra and such so maybe it's not worth it.

He's definitely much more professional. He asked to talk on the phone, and has been very circumspect about his identity in texts, but is a little more open on the phone.

Thanks for all the feedback, guys. I did my homework and he has a lot of good reviews on Rent.men that seem solid (the reviewers have profiles and have interviewed many other escorts). None of them mention a discrepancy in his appearance. Even though the pictures are old, I'm guessing he's in the same shape. I'm seeing him tonight so I'll let you know how it goes. 😬

How do you know they’re so old? They were all uploaded since 2020.

He speaks English. I think German is his second language.

For me, a Confederate flag tattoo would be a non-starter.

I haven't seen escorts provide loyalty programs, though guys we've seen regularly have offered discounts for 2 or 3-hour sessions. I have seen masseurs offer discounts for like three sessions.

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If you look at the majority of experiences here, something like this is rare. There is always some element of risk in meeting a stranger. But if you do your homework and check reviews, get referrals on here, this is unlikely to happen.

I have no issue with your personal tastes and preferences. It's when you make sweeping statements about groups of people that are also not based in reality, that I have a problem.

Could you stop with the anti-fat postings? People are overweight for lots of reasons, most of which are beyond their control. Almost half of Americans are overweight or obese, which is a huge growth since the 1970s. It's not like everyone suddenly became lazy. In the US, it's largely due to our agricultural policy, which makes calorically dense, low-nutrient foods far cheaper than low-calorie, highly nutritious foods. That's why obesity also tracks with poor and working class status. I'm overweight now, but like @BtmBearDad I carry it well. I was a twink into my 30s and then a lot of shit happened in my life. I am currently working on losing weight and getting healthier - but I already work out four times a week. Trust me when I tell you that shaming or blaming people for their weight does not help them become thinner or healthier. It's just mean and unnecessary. Also, my husband is 6'1" and 175 and still finds me sexy as fuck.