KensingtonHomo

We just messaged him through Rent.men. Then once we had a day and time he gave me his cell number, so we could be in contact. I think @mike carey may be right that you need to be logged in.

We just saw him and he was great. So into it. My husband and I had him over. He’s very warm, kind and as someone else said - a total stallion. He’s a really great top. Reads your cues and is verbal without being too much. He seemed a little heavier than his pics, but he is also better looking in person. His features are a bit softer in person. His dick is the large end of boyfriend dick.

Yes, being married and mostly hiring together definitely changes the context. That's a good point. I do bristle at the "I would definitely talk to you if you approached me" type of comment. It suggests that the client doesn't think they can score sex with someone that attractive without paying. It's making a lot of assumptions. We primarily hire for convenience. Yes, we can get hookups on Grindr, but it's time consuming and they fall through. We also get a lot of attention online from much younger guys (like 20s) and that's really not our interest. So hiring keeps things clear and easy. Other guys hire because they're shy or socially awkward or they hate the apps. Or they don't want the complexities of seducing someone or they have a particular fantasy they want to try out. In short, I don't think it does providers any favors to assume people are hiring because of their looks.

You're welcome to your preferred boundaries, as are we all. But not every provider is sweet. Talking to you out of the context of a session is not necessarily them craftiness or disingenuousness. I'm friendly with a couple of regulars on social land sometimes they make complimentary remarks or chat me up. I'm fairly cynical, so I can tell when I'm being gassed up versus when someone is genuine.

Human beings are banks. Conflating businesses with individual services providers is really dehumanizing to the latter group. A provider can enjoy your company, even find you attractive, etc., and still provide a paid service. I've seen the same hairstylist for over 15 years. We've socialized. She compliments me. But I would never expect a free haircut. I've run into providers at clubs, concerts, restaurants, etc. We sometimes have a chat, sometimes not. A consistent theme on this forum is that sex work is held to a variety of different weird standards than other services. That's THE bad mindset. This creepy, puritanical society makes everyone have a warped view of sex.

I want to build on what @DamizzonNYC and @Jamie21 have suggested. To me, emotionally intelligent people, whether they are clients or providers, can read the signals of genuine enjoyment. I get off on being desired, and I can tell when someone is phoning it in. Now, that desire doesn't mean they find my body (which is sexy but not that of a 25-year-old) the most appealing. It may mean that, as DamizzonNYC said, they enjoy giving people pleasure. Or, for providers we see regularly, we've built a rapport that transcends physicality. Since because we grew up in an anti-sex society, many of us get hung up on the sex part. When I see my trainer, I'm paying them to help me work out but we also have chemistry and enjoy each others company. And I'm paying them for their time and expertise.

Clearly I don't know you, but I feel like you're engaged in a lot of projection here. Perhaps you're newer to this hobby, but I can attest - as others have - that people who choose sex work (not for a quick buck) but as a career because they enjoy it, including meeting and connecting with new people, are among the best experiences you can have.

It's a very odd stance. I suspect many young people who go into sex work do it because it pays better than Starbucks. And there are certainly many people - usually poor, BIPOC folks, who are forced by circumstances into sex work - but we're not always in a position to discern who is who. You're not hurting them if you treat everyone with respect and pay them fairly. But I also think hitting up a day laborer because you think he'll be cheaper than someone on RM is creepy and predatory. It's shitty late-stage capitalism that has so many people desperate.

This is a perfect example of why this forum is so great. For those who had great experiences, that's absolutely awesome. But based on his "mercurial" personality, I wouldn't risk a bad or disappointing experience by booking him. There are other, more reliable providers with great reviews or whom I've previously seen to risk my money on someone who's giving "Jekyll/Hyde" to certain clients.

I think this is somewhat risky, so it's not for me. I do find some of the judgment hypocritical. So long as sex work is illegal and we live in such an economically stratified society, exploitation may occur in any encounter. However, if we believe that sex work is work, then it's not distinguishable in terms of exploitation from other kinds of labor. Personally, I'd rather have sex with one or two guys a day than spend 10 hours in the sun gardening.

I think the more reviews, the better. It sounds to me like you have some negative views about sex, which are worth exploring. I know plenty of gay men who've never once charged for sex who have a body count in the hundreds. A sex workers in the business for 20 years should have hundreds of reviews. If a provider sees 2 clients a week for a year, that's 104. Obviously some will be regulars but if they've been in business for 20 years, that's over 2,000.

THIS. I’ve had a lot of amazing and interesting experiences on a massage table. In fact, depending on the height of the provider and the table, it may be preferable to a bed. But for the massage part, the table is better.

Now, I want to see that profile. My guess is that is not a fee for a massage. It could be an overnight or a $500 "massage" with a $500 tip. It's annoying that you can't say, "I paid x and tipped y."

I believe he lives in Brooklyn and would host there, but I'm unsure.

I feel like "party gays" are their own species. Circuit party types are not really amenable to being friends with people outside that world. It's like the Fire Island gays versus Provincetown gays (we're the latter).

Honestly, as a child-free gay guy, my experience is 180 degrees from this. Nearly every friend I have who had children more or less vanished on me, whether straight or gay. I occasionally - like once a month on average go to a gay club - and we do see theater and musicals, etc. But none of that prevents me from attending a kid's birthday party. I'm also the oldest of 19 first cousins and have a 6-year-old nephew (who is the light of my life). The main issue I note is that a lot of my friends who are parents are overwhelmed with their kids' schedules. And several have moved to a suburb- which I have offered to visit. At the same time, I'm very friendly with many parents in our co-op, but their having kids prevents them from socializing. I don't think it's really about gays versus straights so much as parents versus child-free lifestyles.

I don't know exactly why but this descriptor always turns me off. I don't think I have an issue with most of the acts but I don't like "piggy" as an adjective.

Not yet. 😈

My understanding is that it dramatically varies, and there are intimacy coaches and sex surrogates. Most are probably closer to a therapist or life coach, who is just talking to you and offering advice and techniques. Then, some are closer to sex workers, where they will physically engage. And with sex surrogates, they are engaging.

We elected to do consecutive massages but will likely do a couples one next time.

We just saw him and he was terrific. Good massage performed nude. He is even more striking person because he's 6'5". Wolffdad has also been training as an intimacy coach, so he's open to discussing what you want from the massage. We're considering seeing him again to do some of that work as I have trouble finishing. And at $200 - though he charges more for the intimacy coaching - he's very reasonable.

Honestly, I could not be less interested in someone like this.

This is the point I was making. Asserting gay men commit sexual assault at the same rate as straight men is BS. No one has presented any evidence to support this claim.

Again. Please post a citation from a reputable source to support your frankly homophobic claim.

I disagree. I’m not going to Jersey for anything. I’d go to the Bronx first and I live in Brooklyn.