Jamie21

If he hasn’t got naked or pulled his shorts down by now then I seriously doubt he will be willing to do so now, even if you ask him. It seems to make him uncomfortable so I’d suggest that even if he did consent it would make for an awkward session. Maybe just enjoy his massage for what it is and keep the naked massage with him as a fantasy.

Agree, I’m not doing work 24/7….I’ll respond asap and never leave a message unanswered but sometimes I’m just busy doing stuff.

And me a ‘Twas but didn’t realise it at the time’ Ugh.

Love these categorisations of people. In the Venn diagram of gay body types I believe the overlap of the Twink circle with the Jock / athlete circle is where “Twunks” live. And I never understand sex workers who don’t kiss but will do everything else. I kiss, it’s extremely difficult not to kiss when you’re doing things properly. Maybe I’m just very oral? Babies like to explore with their mouth…everything goes in their mouth. I think my baby instincts in that respect are still with me 😂

You’re generous. If they are a new client and cancel last minute once, I give them an opportunity to book again if their explanation seems genuine (you can usually tell). In fact you can usually get a good idea about the chances they’ll cancel or even no show from the very first interaction. But anyway, after one chance if they mess around a second time that’s the end, I will refuse to take a booking.

If he’s too expensive for you you’re shopping in the wrong shop. Client : “That’s expensive, my regular guy charges £100” Me : “go to your regular guy then”. No one is forcing you to pay the rate that your prospective provider is asking. It’s not like he’s the only guy in town and you’re buying a life essential is it? You can decide to go elsewhere or just not buy. However the reason he does what he does for payment is precisely because he has qualities and skills you can’t get elsewhere. So pay his rate if you value what he does. Some people seem to think doing this kind of work is easy. Almost like it’s so easy and fun it should be done for free. Those people should try it for a while and see just how ‘easy’ it is. Set yourself up in the business, charge the kind of rates you think you’d be happy to pay. See how long you last….

I agree clear conversation is important. So is regular testing. I’m on prep and I prefer not to use condoms (to top or to bottom) but I think it’s just a personal choice. If a client wants to use a condom that’s fine too.

I don’t understand how some guys can be into doing some of the weird sexual fetishes I’m occasionally asked for….(being pissed on…hmmm no sorry I can’t do that); it’s no different to some guys liking to sleep on an overnight. The attraction is you wake up, there’s someone naked there next to you, sleeping soundly. See him sleep, watch him breathing, stroke his skin and gently wake him, as he slowly comes to awareness and recognises you with a shy grin. Kiss him, cuddle him, feel his growing cock as you nuzzle closer….isn’t that better than waking alone?

Clients have all sorts of preferences. Just like everyone does. There’s a market for all types (although it may vary in size). Be your authentic self and focus on your strengths. Those who like that kind of thing will find you.

When most of the sex you have is work sex you’re less inclined to go to a sex party.

People’s sleep habits can be surprising. I took a couple of nights away with a friend of mine, who is also a sex worker (we often work together). We wanted to have a short break and decided not to see any clients whilst away, just chill out and have some fun (although we did shoot a film for justforfans whilst we were away to pay for the trip). He’d had a tough time so the idea was to help him recover and refresh his energy. Turns out that although we are compatible in many ways (we like similar things sexually and have similar interests) we are certainly not compatible when sleeping! I sleep naked and prefer my companion to be naked, he prefers to wear pants and t shirt in bed. I go to bed early and like morning sex, he likes to stay up late, fuck before going to sleep, and then lay in. I like the window open, he wanted it closed. I like music playing to get off to sleep, he likes silence. I wanted to sleep on the right….so did he. He seemed to be awake all night, which kept waking me. The other problem was at the time he was on drugs which was probably why he stayed awake all night. I didn’t realise the extent of it at the time because he hid it (good news, he’s off them now). The weekend was great fun in every way except sleeping. I think you really get to know someone when you sleep overnight with them in the same bed!

Portuguese Pox probably

Pox or vaccine?

No. Get vaccinated. Carry on.

I think it’s ok as long as they’re clear about what the terms are. Some guys are happy to make movies for Onlyfans with other models but don’t want to offer those kind of services to clients. After all, you don’t know who might book you as a client whereas you do know who you’re filming with. I offer sensual massage, so it’s more than just therapeutic (as in I do give happy endings and oral etc) but it does not include things that I do on my justforfans films. I have them branded separately so that people who watch my justforfans wouldn’t assume their massage will include everything they see on the justforfans films.

Well, I am idle for 12 hours a day of course. I just hang around naked with a semi while watching porn (doesn’t everyone?), but clients always call just when I decide to wash my hair.

Yes, I get that impression too. “Hey Jamie are you free today?” I reply “no sorry I’m busy today” because I planned things given there was no work. Then the client says “oh I was hoping to get a massage today, it’s my last day in London” or something similar. It’s definitely as if they think I’m just sitting around waiting for clients to call. I think people don’t see you as having other commitments or needing to do ‘life’ tasks. You’re just always doing your work in their view and it comes as a big surprise and disappointment when you’re not available! I tell them it’s usually best to book in advance but I think for many people they like to do things impulsively, especially if they’re horny, so you get a lot of last minute requests. I’m preferring not to see those type of clients anyway; they don’t really want a massage they want quick relief, often they’re drunk or high. I prefer to see clients who appreciate a good massage and enjoy the intimacy a sensual massage can deliver. Those clients usually book and come for an experience that is more than just a quick release. I’m sorry you have to move city @Jarrod_Uncut. Maybe it will be a better situation.

I know why. It’s because they’re paying. If it’s inconvenient for you or you find their approach is inconsiderate then it’s your choice to say just ‘no’ or ignore them. Of course in saying ‘no’ you forego the earning opportunity, which is probably what is annoying.

The word ‘probably’ in his message is the clue. Phrases and words like ‘Probably’, ‘Looking to’, ‘Considering’ and ‘Will definitely’ all actually mean ‘I have no intention of proceeding but I am just enjoying the thought of it’.

Sounds like you do a good due diligence! Sensible if you’re spending a fair bit of money. I get massages myself, so can see the perspective from both sides; provider and client. If I have a bad experience with a masseur (it’s actually rare; I do check them out thoroughly too) then I feel irritated at paying them for poor value. But the irritation is mostly directed at myself for picking the wrong guy. Even though the experience might have been average there’s usually something I can learn though, so it’s kind of nothing lost. Even if he wasn’t great it’s kind of reassuring to know that the competition is rubbish!!

Probably don’t enter into any detailed arrangements about a session until they have paid your deposit. Once they pay you something only then engage on discussion about arrangements etc. However, I feel that you can have the most sophisticated ‘time waster’ screening methods but somehow they still get through! A few days ago I had a client book, for same day, with a few hours notice. He was new, and asked questions that were the usual red flags, so all the usual time waster signs were there. Regardless of these, foolishly I accepted the booking and a session was arranged. About 45 minutes before the scheduled start of the massage he texted and said he was ‘running late’ (is he a train?) and would arrive half an hour late. At that point I knew he would no show, and sure enough after I’d acknowledged his ‘running late’ message with an “ok” he ghosted me. That’s at least 2 hours of my time wasted. So now his number is on the naughty list. If he messages me again in future I’ll remind him of the no show and tell him where to go. I only hope that nothing bad happened to him that meant he couldn’t contact me. Most likely though is that he is indeed one of those ignorant rude people who have no regard for anyone else. There aren’t many but wow are they annoying when they do appear. Fortunately I had a regular client book with me for immediately after the time wasters planned session so my time wasn’t completely wasted.

Your comment is wrong. There’s over 80 full length massage videos on there.

Hey don’t be sorry! It’s your perception. I’m bound to put the masseur’s perspective. There clearly are guys chancing their arm out there. Look for someone who’s been around a while with good feedback etc. I think the ‘chancers’ are new to the market and making hay out of their novelty. They tend not to stick around because they’re not really invested in doing a good job and getting repeat clients.

That’s quite bleak and cynical. Also quite true. Find love elsewhere. I’ve seen it with some clients, they mistakenly believe that I’m present in the room with them for reasons other than they’re paying me. Honestly if I reciprocated with those feelings there would be no money involved. If you’re paying him, that’s the only reason he’s there.

Don’t overlook though that whilst a masseur might charge $200 for an hour he’s doing more work outside that hour that isn’t directly compensated. There’s all the time spent talking with potential clients. There’s time spent on personal hygiene and trying to keep fit (it is after all physical work and clients do like fit masseurs generally), there’s time updating social media and advertising, cleaning studio and washing towels etc. There’s also overheads like oil, room rental, travel costs, taxes, insurance. So what looks like to you is income of $200 an hour is really $120 for 3 hours. Then there’s all the time wasted because clients book but then don’t show up, like happened to me yesterday. I saw the signs but gave him the benefit of doubt and booked him in. Sure enough…he first says he’s running late then it just goes silent. The rates we charge reflect the value we assign to our services. If a clients budget aligns with that then we’ll get bookings. Obviously there will be people who aren’t prepared to pay that price. It’s only a problem to me if no one is prepared to pay. But that’s not the case, I get clients booking, and returning, so I’m fine with my price. If I didn’t get any clients then my choice is reduce the price or leave the market.