Jamie21

There is a free demo video on my website but it’s behind a password. Clients have to contact me for the password. I’ve considered charging a small fee for the password but it’s too much hassle. Plenty of clients ask for the password and then never book but I view it as a kind of filter: if they liked the video that much they’ll book, and if they didn’t like it they won’t waste my time asking lots of questions and prevaricating. My more explicit porn stuff is mostly behind a paywall on justforfans. There are some videos out there on the free tube sites but not that much. So I do make passive income from material I’ve filmed. I agree with you @Jarrod_Uncutthat trying to win over uncommitted clients is a waste of time.

Yeah that could be it. I did wonder sometimes if they’re doing a last minute douche check? Anyway, if they’re not showered immediately before their session then it’s less likely I’ll do any rimming. I know many masseurs wouldn’t include that anyway so I guess the client has low expectations of it …but I do like to include it because I love rimming. It’s their loss if they decline to shower. Yes that’s pretty bad, as Shakespeare said “an ass by any other name would smell so sweet” or did I get that wrong? Also not good if you finger his prostate and it comes out dirty. I just clean off and carry on but won’t be rimming him. I guess we’ve gone off topic though here….so to bring it back I will add that I don’t charge extra for rimming or for prostate massage as part of the massage. 🙂

Nothing is booked until the date, time and location are confirmed and agreed. Otherwise it’s just an enquiry. Clients ask me if I’m available on certain days that might align with their travel plans. This is sensible as I might be away or busy so I understand why clients check. But we agree that until they definitively book the time might be taken by someone else. I think your provider was unprofessional. Probably annoyed after a series of cancellations which I can empathise with but it’s still not right to take out his annoyance on you. It’s an inherent problem of his modus operandi and he should either adjust his approach by taking deposits before travelling or simply get out of the business if his model causes him that much trouble. You were generous offering to pay him half.

I’m amazed at how long some clients take to shower. If a client books an hour with me then they get the full hour on the table but I kind of expect they won’t spend half hour in the shower… I prefer them to shower before we start (it means I’ll be more inclined to go places that are interesting if it’s all nice and fresh 😉) and I offer a shower afterwards because they’re covered in oil and cum of course ha ha. Many are visiting during work or before a night out in the west end so I understand it’s important to look ok on leaving me. But ugh those that take ages are just irritating. It’s mainly female clients that take time. I don’t see many female clients but when they book I always add time to the session because firstly they take time to get going (if you’ve massaged females you’ll know..) and because of the shower time issue. They’re in there for ages! On the timing being short, I think it’s always important to make the massage last the full time booked. Only if the client wants to finish early would I stop before time. I remember one guy I saw booked an hour, but once he was on the table it was clear he was too horny for a slow build up. After a few minutes he had my cock in his mouth so I just let things develop as he seemed to be keen. After half hour of hardly any massage he cums and then almost immediately he asks to get showered. I suggested we finish the massage with some head massage (always very relaxing after a climax) but he was happy and good to go. He paid full price plus a tip and was in and out of my studio in 40 minutes, and that was only because I managed to keep him on the edge for a while. I think he’d have been half hour or less otherwise. The ideal client 😂.

Tipping is such an emotive subject, and is one where custom varies across cultures. I have no expectation of receiving a tip, but it’s very welcome when I do receive one. I think it’s easier for clients to provide a tip if they pay cash. When clients pay by card then I just tap my rate into the card reader and hand it to the client for them to insert their card. There’s no option for them to add a tip (well, there is…but I don’t feel right to put it on there for the client so I don’t use that feature). I hate that feeling of being ‘prompted’ to provide a tip. Much better for me is that if my client really liked my service then they book another session. That’s what I aim for, rather than hoping for a big tip.

I’ve traded my sex work services for photography work. I guess that’s barter.

That’s the job, making people feel comfortable, good about themselves, relaxed. Everyone wants to be approved of.

So we have the Lydians to thank for giving me work, and inflation. I feel they have a mixed record.

Although it was referencing your post ….it wasn’t actually about you or intended to invalidate your experience. I apologise for the unintentional invalidation. It was just meant to bring some levity to the conversation. It’s important to smile 😊. I don’t see things like that Dr Long quote because I guess I don’t need my subjective emotional experience to be validated, at least not on a forum like this! It’s my experience and I don’t mind whether someone else who I don’t know validates it or not, but I realise you’re different @Jarrod_Uncut so I’m really disappointed you didn’t like the joke and that I upset you. I’m resolved to not interact in future unless it’s to positively validate your point.

They leave their shoes outside the door. They put shoes on as they leave, after having paid. I mean…it’s highly unlikely they’ll run away, I don’t work in that part of the market but if they did try to they’re not going to get far without their shoes are they? 🙂

Anxious or inexperienced clients, without me prompting or asking, tend to pay before the session. I am handed an envelope or it is put on the side with an embarrassed “that’s for you” mumbled as they avoid eye contact. Some clients forget during the post session chat whilst they get dressed…and are almost at the door when I have to ask “how would you like to pay?”. Others just hand cash or card over at the end once they’re dressed. It’s all very perfunctory. On one occasion a client had his card declined, so he tried a second card. That also didn’t work. I think he just forgot the pin because of anxiety about the whole situation. He’d been quite anxious at the start and was one of those guys who once he’s cum he kind of ‘just has to get out of here’. Like a big guilt trip comes over them. During the session he’d eventually relaxed sufficiently on the table to become aroused and I was working his cock to bring him to climax. Trying to time it so he’d shoot 5 minutes before times up so he can chill a bit on the table afterwards. He liked his ass played with so I tried a finger at the entrance (lubed up of course). No resistance from him, indeed he pushed on it…so in it went. This seemed to do the trick and he got closer. My finger hit his prostate and he was now very close but the anxiety seemed to be still holding him back a little, so I slid a second finger in and started to alternate pressure on his prostate… which did the trick and he shot his load. However as soon as the last spurt came out of his cock he sat up on the table and asked to use the shower. I said “relax, how about a head massage to bring you back down?” as I cleaned up his cum but he’d already swung his legs over the side of the table and was ready to stand up. I managed to stop him for a few seconds while I wiped him clean. I really don’t want someone getting a head rush from standing so soon, but his mind was made up to ‘get out of here!’ Anyway after a rapid shower and dressing he’s now standing there next to a still naked me (which probably added to the anxiety) fumbling over his PIN number and trying various cards in my card reader. To lighten the mood I said “stick another one in, it worked for me” but I don’t think he got the joke. Fortunately one of the cards worked and he managed to get away.

I like to try out a client’s nipples. You can very quickly work out if they’re a turn on for him. For some it’s instant reaction, for others….nothing. Sensual massage is an exploration; you try all sorts of things and see what reactions you get. Sometimes it’s the most unusual things, like sucking a finger, licking an armpit, a slap on the bum or just the lightest kiss on the back of his neck. Throw in surprises and unexpected touches and read how he responds.

I hate PayPal. I used to accept it and will do so in extremis but I generally avoid it. I leave a zero balance in my account. I used to have a PayPal card reader, to take credit cards. The money would be credited to my PayPal account. The card reader was rubbish and would regularly freeze mid transaction. One time a client got debited twice because the card reader didn’t seem to accept the first transaction. However I only received the first transaction as a credit (less their exorbitant fees). My client complained to me he’s been charged twice, so I tried to speak to PayPal but it was impossible to get to a human. So I asked my client to raise it with his credit card company but they passed the buck to PayPal. Eventually I refunded my client so he wasn’t out of pocket ( he’s a regular) but that put me out of pocket. Eventually it got resolved but only after lots of calls to PayPal. After that I changed my card processing company. I also heard PayPal will freeze your account if they think you’re doing sex work, so that was another reason to dump them. The new card reader is fantastic, and cheaper.

I hear it’s not effective, but that’s third hand. As with lots of things the Germans seem to have it worked out.

Except it doesn’t reduce demand, it just drives it underground. Any attempts to legislate demand or supply is doomed to failure. Better to regulate.

It’s very very rare. If you work in the bottom end of the market maybe that happens but in my experience of seeing hundreds of clients only once has someone pulled that trick, and I walked with him to the cash point and made sure I got paid. I’m very comfortable with payment afterwards. And the excuse of ‘I’ve no cash’ isn’t a problem because I accept cards.

I usually get asked to bend over forwards. Or is that a different thing?

Never pay full charge in advance of the service if you don’t know the guy. I think you did the right thing.

Ah sorry to your dog! I’m glad my posts bring a smile. Honestly some of the experiences I’ve had while being a sex worker should be made into a film. I’ll write it all in a book one day…

It’s an allegory for life. The pleasure is the journey not the destination.

Really 15 to 20 minutes over doesn’t seem such an issue unless you have a hard stop. I don’t say “right, times up!” at exactly the time he booked if it’s an out call. I could understand if he’s still going half hour beyond the scheduled time, but 15 minutes is just a rounding error lol. I usually ask if the client has a definite finish time at the start. Then you know and can plan because it feels mean to end exactly on time, especially if things at that point haven’t come to a natural close. And don’t feel obligated to pay extra, the agreed rate is the agreed rate.

I hope you liked my videos! I did about a dozen on sensualmassagemovies.com then started my own site on justforfans because I wanted to show a bit more explicit content alongside the massage. I think it’s very normal to like watching massage. It’s good to watch how the massage becomes like an arousal or a seduction. I think guys can imagine themselves going for a ‘normal’ massage and then the massage developing into an erotic encounter quite unexpectedly.

Caused by booking providers when the blood supply to support good cognitive brain processing is impaired by excess blood to the dick area.

I saw a massage client last week. After the massage he said he’d like a 4 hands next time. So I asked him what kind of masseur he’d like to join me for the 4 hands. I work with a few guys (and females) who I know and trust are good, and they’re a variety of ages and ethnicities etc. He says he’s open but then says ‘no black guys’. The client is from the US. I didn’t ask why; it could be a prejudice I don’t know. I can understand someone having a body type preference or preferring older guys or something but ethnicity preference is a difficult one for me. If you do open yourself up to experience different people you can find that you’ve been missing out!

I find it annoying, when someone is late. Especially if their excuse was reasonably within their power to avoid. This seems to happen a lot with video shoots with porn models. Example, I arranged to film with a model at his place. We agreed a time and I turn up 5 minutes before the time agreed. I message him to say I’m outside. No reply….then after 10 minutes he says ‘sorry I was asleep’…give me half hour. This is around 11am. So I wander around his area for half hour then message again… ‘yeah come up’, he messages back. Once inside he’s obviously just woken, and says to me “do you want some breakfast?” as he prepares his food. I think ‘well I came here to eat but it’s your arse I was thinking of, not grapefruit and cereal’ but I’m kind of trying to be relaxed so I say “oh thanks just a glass of juice”. So we sit while he eats breakfast….then he says he has to douche…. It’s now almost midday. I have other stuff to do later. I ask “how long to douche?”….he says “oh I dunno, usually half hour…depends”. Now if I’m bottoming I really don’t like to douche immediately before a shoot, that’s far to stressful. Why hasn’t he done all this before the agreed time? While he’s douching I set up cameras and light so things are ready. After his preparation he wants a little time to settle down so we sit and chat. Eventually after 2 hours we get some filming done. It’s so unprofessional. He was young, early 20’s and I find this kind of attitude more common with younger guys. When I collaborate with guys older, like 40 or so they are on time, are professional, easy to work with. It’s a job, you book and agree a time and duration because people make plans. I can understand unexpected travel delays etc but not things like ‘I needed the gym’ or ‘I have to douche’ or something when those things should have been planned for in advance.