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Sort of like Man2Man. Millennium Concepts was in Upland, CA. They had a list of hot young guys (20's and early 30's), mostly white or Hispanic, whom you could see at their location in an office park. Each room had a sofa, TV with porn, and comfortable decor. The owner or his assistant would show you to a room... and then the guy that you wanted to see would come to the room to see you. They also had a room with a jacuzzi/hot tub. (Or they'd meet you elsewhere for outcalls, of course.) They were in 2 different nearby locations across 5 or 6 years, I think. It was pretty hot! My favorites were Noah, Noble, Alex, and Beau.
 
I think it was Stephan, actually (at least based on other forum postings here). Thanks.
 
 
 
 

Ok, time for the cold hard slap of reality……
He is not in love with you and you are not in love with him.
Baby he rocked  your world for one night. That’s his job.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
Enjoy it. Love it. Worship it.…but acknowledge it for what it is. 
A job well done…..nothing more, nothing less.

If a client may respond to the OP, when I hired I enjoyed overnights with a nice guy. My formula was full sex on meeting, then a good dinner, shorter session before sleeping and receiving a blowjob before breakfast. I always preferred to host at my place as I could be certain of a very big bed, clean linens and large bathrooms. Escorts told me they liked my place.
 
The only exceptions - using hotels - were when I had some group action or multiple play in prospect. I quite deliberately did not choose 5* hotels. My thinking was that it was easier for the working guys to be unnoticed if I chose good and busy 4* places that were well-located. As the host, I wanted to be able to organise room service liquor and wine and have housekeeping provide me with extra pillows and towels.

Obviously @purplekow, given your predilection, he should have addressed you as Master or at the very least as Sir

I’m sure the ‘Visit PV tourism office’ would applaud this thread…but the OP is asking about working men - seeking BFE with uncut tops.
 
Surely some posters here can help him?

I’ve been having sex with men for 40 years too. And I can assure you that I ALWAYS unload in a guy’s mouth while he is sucking me off. I‘m lazy and I don’t jerk off.
 
It may be because I’ve no interest in masturbation. Especially as I’m happy to feed a hot guy as I love kicking back and letting him do all the work.

A first time hire you probably should take the initiative to go to them. Crazy weirdos know then where you live and you could have a real mess on your hands. Just my $.02

Wonderful idea @Rocca. I say Go for it, provided you can afford the costly trip. A week in Maui with an obliging masseur sounds terrific. But as others have said, you must be explicit and detailed about what you are offering to him.
 
FWIW I once took a swimming coach away with me, not to Maui but to an equally lovely longhaul destination. The coach was fit, mid 20s and had a very good body. I had a real crush on him so I took him out for coffee or lunch after lessons 2x a week. After a few weeks, we were showering together after the lesson when he suggested I would enjoy using the sauna (he serviced me orally and I gave him a handjob). That became an enjoyable routine.
 
When I thought about going away for some Winter sun, I asked him out for dinner to discuss my idea. Luckily I had thought out all the details (as previously I’d hired fit young men for trips). I told him I’d pay for the flights and the hotel as well as all the meals and drinks, and I said I’d want a lesson each day before breakfast and again probably late afternoon. I emphasised we’d have breakfast together and then he’d be free for most of the day until we had the 2nd lesson and dinner together.
 
He was interested and asked questions. I was a bit surprised at his questions. He didn’t mention money. He did ask if he’d have his own room. I said No, we‘d share a room. And added that the hotel beds are king sized. He asked me if I was gay and I said I was. He then asked about sex. And I said I enjoyed getting oral to completion, and I liked seeing him come…and I was totally OK if that was all he wanted to do. (I’d met some of his friends and they all seemed very fit and str8). I did spell out that I enjoyed having sex every night.
 
He agreed there and then. But I followed up with a phone call the next day to confirm the dates etc. Again he didn’t ask about money. He did say he was a little worried that he didn’t have the right clothes for a 5* hotel. So I took him shopping which was good fun. I then raised the question of money. He asked if I was really going to pay for everything and when I confirmed that, he said I won’t need $$$ as it’s totally free.
 
Overall, we had a really great time on the trip. He was excited on the flight out and he seemed relaxed at the hotel (where they knew I was gay and obviously saw him as my young man). He did spend almost all the time with me. He worked out in the gym every day but wanted to come with me on excursions and hikes.
 
He initiated sex the first night and told me we could try more than the usual stuff. During the week, I got him to bottom 2x for me but I had the feeling he really wasn’t into it, so I told him full oral was just fine for me. During our last breakfast, I told him I’d had a good time with him. He countered that it had been his best vacation ever, and he’d had an amazing time with me. I raised the topic of money but he commented he hadn’t been able to spend any and “we had the best food” all week. I knew his income was small and erratic, so when we got back to the room to pack, I insisted on giving him $1000. He refused the $$$ but was so grateful when I insisted, that we had good sex to end the vacation on a high.

Wonderful idea @Rocca. I say Go for it, provided you can afford the costly trip. A week in Maui with an obliging masseur sounds terrific. But as others have said, you must be explicit and detailed about what you are offering to him.
 
FWIW I once took a swimming coach away with me, not to Maui but to an equally lovely longhaul destination. The coach was fit, mid 20s and had a very good body. I had a real crush on him so I took him out for coffee or lunch after lessons 2x a week. After a few weeks, we were showering together after the lesson when he suggested I would enjoy using the sauna (he serviced me orally and I gave him a handjob). That became an enjoyable routine.
 
When I thought about going away for some Winter sun, I asked him out for dinner to discuss my idea. Luckily I had thought out all the details (as previously I’d hired fit young men for trips). I told him I’d pay for the flights and the hotel as well as all the meals and drinks, and I said I’d want a lesson each day before breakfast and again probably late afternoon. I emphasised we’d have breakfast together and then he’d be free for most of the day until we had the 2nd lesson and dinner together.
 
He was interested and asked questions. I was a bit surprised at his questions. He didn’t mention money. He did ask if he’d have his own room. I said No, we‘d share a room. And added that the hotel beds are king sized. He asked me if I was gay and I said I was. He then asked about sex. And I said I enjoyed getting oral to completion, and I liked seeing him come…and I was totally OK if that was all he wanted to do. (I’d met some of his friends and they all seemed very fit and str8). I did spell out that I enjoyed having sex every night.
 
He agreed there and then. But I followed up with a phone call the next day to confirm the dates etc. Again he didn’t ask about money. He did say he was a little worried that he didn’t have the right clothes for a 5* hotel. So I took him shopping which was good fun. I then raised the question of money. He asked if I was really going to pay for everything and when I confirmed that, he said I won’t need $$$ as it’s totally free.
 
Overall, we had a really great time on the trip. He was excited on the flight out and he seemed relaxed at the hotel (where they knew I was gay and obviously saw him as my young man). He did spend almost all the time with me. He worked out in the gym every day but wanted to come with me on excursions and hikes.
 
He initiated sex the first night and told me we could try more than the usual stuff. During the week, I got him to bottom 2x for me but I had the feeling he really wasn’t into it, so I told him full oral was just fine for me. During our last breakfast, I told him I’d had a good time with him. He countered that it had been his best vacation ever, and he’d had an amazing time with me. I raised the topic of money but he commented he hadn’t been able to spend any and “we had the best food” all week. I knew his income was small and erratic, so when we got back to the room to pack, I insisted on giving him $1000. He refused the $$$ but was so grateful when I insisted, that we had good sex to end the vacation on a high.

I have a much younger partner. I wouldn’t like to survive him by more than a couple of years.

Pictures look like they were all stolen? from a model. 

I’m more concerned about the poor people in Ukraine. There’s war again in Europe and people will be killed, made refugees and their country ruined and it’s all happening close to home. I hope the people of Russia rise up and rid themselves of Putin who has reduced the country to a pariah to feed his ego. 

"Dino started out in bodybuilding but ended up getting into cement" 
 

I mean no disrespect @KensingtonHomo but that’s perhaps inevitable when you hire a couple of guys for some group action.
 
Years ago I had a boyfriend  who was a gym-god, and I occasionally hired guys for a 3some or fourgy to spice things up. When I made the arrangements, I’d mention that my boyfriend was very hot, and that I was older but with a very nice cock and a thick wallet so I wanted equal attention. The guys often chuckled but I was never neglected. 

I mean no disrespect @KensingtonHomo but that’s perhaps inevitable when you hire a couple of guys for some group action.
 
Years ago I had a boyfriend  who was a gym-god, and I occasionally hired guys for a 3some or fourgy to spice things up. When I made the arrangements, I’d mention that my boyfriend was very hot, and that I was older but with a very nice cock and a thick wallet so I wanted equal attention. The guys often chuckled but I was never neglected. 

I mean no disrespect @KensingtonHomo but that’s perhaps inevitable when you hire a couple of guys for some group action.
 
Years ago I had a boyfriend  who was a gym-god, and I occasionally hired guys for a 3some or fourgy to spice things up. When I made the arrangements, I’d mention that my boyfriend was very hot, and that I was older but with a very nice cock and a thick wallet so I wanted equal attention. The guys often chuckled but I was never neglected. 

It’s subjective, of course, but my personal view is that a muscleboy looks best in classic white briefs or jockstrap. From time to time, I also like to see a fit young man wear solid colored briefs.
 
I strongly dislike seeing muscleboys wear baggy underwear (like boxers) or thin strappy underwear (like thongs). The brands I like are Emporio Armani, 2(X)ist, Pump, Versace and C-in-2. Any briefs or jockstraps from these would be good.
 
Obviously the mainstream brands do a good job but I think @orville that you should choose what you find sexy and arousing. I feel sure that your guy will appreciate that you value him and want him to look great.

I would not buy him clothes @orville. You do not really know his taste and size. And you are denying yourself some considerable pleasures, for I agree with @The_Impeccable_G. IMO you need a 3step program.
 
1. Dating a handsome young jock, I’d buy him some good briefs and jockstraps. I’d have him model them for me. That was always an arousing start to a date. I’d ask him which brand/colour he preferred and how he liked the fit.
2. For another date, I’d typically get him a large range of the briefs/jocks he liked.
3. On a later date, I’d take him shopping for clothes. Especially on a trip together, a shopping spree in NYC or London can be a lot of fun with a young companion. (I still recall a hot Australian muscleboy sucking me off in a department store changing-room as a quick “thank-you”)

Truly @tassojunior it’s astounding what you can study at university nowadays. 

Truly @tassojunior it’s astounding what you can study at university nowadays. 

to me yes, I am quite used to paying 100 -150 euros in most european cities. London was quite new to me but maybe the oil money is spoiling them. If you are willing to pay 300gbp for one hour, why not take a weekend trip to Barcelona and have some amazing food and weather on top of hiring a few guys who are hotter than him and willing to do a lot. that is just my take. 

I'm younger than my husband but he is fitter. I'm sure it's difficult for a provider or providers to ensure they are given 50/50 equal attention. And I don't expect that. It was just SO obvious in this case that we would not repeat. Funnily enough, it was my idea. 

You will be very surprised when you visit Paragonya for the first time. 
Initially, the sauna is awkward to locate.  It is in an office-like commercial building.  You would not expect to find a gay hustler sauna in the type of building the sauna is located.   
You must ring a bell to gain access.  
The place is exceedingly clean and is nicer than the fine sauna in Barcelona (Thermas).  
The horrible hustler sauna in Madrid (Adan) is no longer in business so you will not be tempted to visit there.   
In addition to providers available in Paragonya, there are many older Swiss customers who come to the sauna who sit in the bar area and visit with one another, not particularly looking for a provider.  However, some of these regular customers have favorite providers they engage while in the sauna.  
Many of the customers walk around without shoes because the floor is so clean and made of excellent material.  
After arrival in the sauna, if it is busy, you will soon see some handsome provider giving you a look that you cannot resist; then you will find yourself on the second floor of the sauna sampling a unique very fine gay sauna with providers for pay. 
 
 

I agree. I’ve used AmEx for years and I find they are very quick to spot attempts at fraud and to refund any questionable charges. I travel with one other credit card (in case AmEx is not accepted) and a bank debit card. This way, I’ve had no trouble getting cash/making payments all over the world. 

Absolutely - fingers crossed 🤞