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I agree with the consensus - you should have told him.  I don't agree with what seems to be the consensus, that it's normal to be so freaked out by the presence of someone else that of course anyone in their right mind would leave.  Not only did I encounter this situation numerous times when hiring masseurs and escorts, it never really occurred to me to be overly concerned about it.  Did I find it somewhat annoying to actually have to see someone else (for example, a roommate on a sofa in the living area that had to be passed through to get to the bedroom)?  Yes, but not enough for me to make an issue of it.  For those arguing the safety angle, if someone really is intent on doing you harm don't you think it would be just as easy for them to have their accomplice hanging out nearby and then that person enters after you're already naked?  Wouldn't that put you in an even more vulnerable position?  It just seems to me that some level of trust is required to meet a stranger, and whatever screening/vetting process one has is hopefully good enough to at least keep the people with malintent at bay.

I saw a porn scene where he tried to bottom for some well-known, hung top (the scene was somewhat of a dud so I cannot recall off the top of my head who the top was).  What was wrong with the scene?  JP kept complaining whenever the dick went in him, so there were lots of edits and not really any portion long enough to get a sense that fun was being had.  If anything, the guy filming seemed to have to keep encouraging JP to relax and enjoy himself.  To be fair, I haven't seen any other scenes of his and maybe that was an anomaly, but I thought I would toss that bit of information out here in case anyone is looking to hire him as a bottom.  See if you can find any evidence that he actually enjoys getting fucked; if not, hire another cutie who does.
I, too, think he's very cute but if I were a top looking for a jock bottom I'd rather hire someone who enjoys being in that roll. 

I agree with the consensus - you should have told him.  I don't agree with what seems to be the consensus, that it's normal to be so freaked out by the presence of someone else that of course anyone in their right mind would leave.  Not only did I encounter this situation numerous times when hiring masseurs and escorts, it never really occurred to me to be overly concerned about it.  Did I find it somewhat annoying to actually have to see someone else (for example, a roommate on a sofa in the living area that had to be passed through to get to the bedroom)?  Yes, but not enough for me to make an issue of it.  For those arguing the safety angle, if someone really is intent on doing you harm don't you think it would be just as easy for them to have their accomplice hanging out nearby and then that person enters after you're already naked?  Wouldn't that put you in an even more vulnerable position?  It just seems to me that some level of trust is required to meet a stranger, and whatever screening/vetting process one has is hopefully good enough to at least keep the people with malintent at bay.

I know this post will be of limited value because this escort operated on the DL so only clients who hired him would know of him, but I met a guy off a Craigslist posting about 20 years ago who was a university student who worked as an escort during school breaks.  I saw him several times over a period of a couple of years and enjoyed every thing about him.  I didn't always hire guys that much younger than me (I was in my early 40s at the time), but I definitely hired a number of guys of similar age.  After all these years he still stands out in my mind as one of the cutest and most fun I had the pleasure to be with.  I don't know whether anyone else on this board knew him; when I've posted about him in the past, I have never seen a reply that indicates anyone else here knew him.  He used the name Sean, his family lived somewhere in the San Francisco Bay Area because that's where I saw him during his school breaks, and he attended university in southern California.

I'm confused.  This is an escort ad of some guy who is over 45 years old who only wants clients 45 years old or younger, and he wants those clients to text him a photo and ID?  If so, I doubt he gets any customers.  Even if it's just a hookup ad, asking for someone's ID via text probably isn't going to result in much, if any, response.
If your issue is that he only wants guys younger than him, that's extremely common. 

I agree with the consensus - you should have told him.  I don't agree with what seems to be the consensus, that it's normal to be so freaked out by the presence of someone else that of course anyone in their right mind would leave.  Not only did I encounter this situation numerous times when hiring masseurs and escorts, it never really occurred to me to be overly concerned about it.  Did I find it somewhat annoying to actually have to see someone else (for example, a roommate on a sofa in the living area that had to be passed through to get to the bedroom)?  Yes, but not enough for me to make an issue of it.  For those arguing the safety angle, if someone really is intent on doing you harm don't you think it would be just as easy for them to have their accomplice hanging out nearby and then that person enters after you're already naked?  Wouldn't that put you in an even more vulnerable position?  It just seems to me that some level of trust is required to meet a stranger, and whatever screening/vetting process one has is hopefully good enough to at least keep the people with malintent at bay.

One always has to treat reviews with a grain of salt, even those posted here.  That being said, if a forum member praises someone and that forum member has a history of commenting on a variety of providers (a sign it isn't just a shill account set up to hype a specific provider) I will give that more credence. 
I used to take chances on unknown guys all the time 25 years ago.  Guys would post ads on Craigslist and take them down after they got a client. Those guys frequently never ventured into working full time as escorts or masseurs, by which I mean they never advertised on any of the escort or masseur websites outside of Craigslist or Adam4Adam.  I had a lot of success but definitely hired some duds.  Even if I were the same age now as I was then, I'm not sure I'd take the same chances.  I think there are a lot more pure scammers advertising now.

One always has to treat reviews with a grain of salt, even those posted here.  That being said, if a forum member praises someone and that forum member has a history of commenting on a variety of providers (a sign it isn't just a shill account set up to hype a specific provider) I will give that more credence. 
I used to take chances on unknown guys all the time 25 years ago.  Guys would post ads on Craigslist and take them down after they got a client. Those guys frequently never ventured into working full time as escorts or masseurs, by which I mean they never advertised on any of the escort or masseur websites outside of Craigslist or Adam4Adam.  I had a lot of success but definitely hired some duds.  Even if I were the same age now as I was then, I'm not sure I'd take the same chances.  I think there are a lot more pure scammers advertising now.

I know this post will be of limited value because this escort operated on the DL so only clients who hired him would know of him, but I met a guy off a Craigslist posting about 20 years ago who was a university student who worked as an escort during school breaks.  I saw him several times over a period of a couple of years and enjoyed every thing about him.  I didn't always hire guys that much younger than me (I was in my early 40s at the time), but I definitely hired a number of guys of similar age.  After all these years he still stands out in my mind as one of the cutest and most fun I had the pleasure to be with.  I don't know whether anyone else on this board knew him; when I've posted about him in the past, I have never seen a reply that indicates anyone else here knew him.  He used the name Sean, his family lived somewhere in the San Francisco Bay Area because that's where I saw him during his school breaks, and he attended university in southern California.

I'm not posting this because I think any provide should offer a discount.  In fact, I'd argue that it would be silly to offer a discount unless you don't have enough business and want to try it to see if it brings in new clients.  However, there are other businesses that offer discounts depending on day of the week or time of day: theaters, restaurants, bars, airlines, and I'm sure others that aren't immediately coming to mind.  I just thought I'd offer this because I don't think it's necessarily a rude suggestion that offering a discount on a certain day or time of day might make business sense.  What is rude is a client asking for a discount when there's no indication that one is available, but even then I realize that while this is true in the USA bartering is not considered bad in many other countries. 

What is this "lengthy chat" bullshit? I hope that was the second lesson you learned. Both parties here have the same mission: ask and answer a FEW questions and make an appointment.
A provider is not your friend, your bud, or your pal. Certainly not an initial hire. The time for chit chat is after loads are shot and you're eating up the end of the session laying bed. MAYBE, after the appointment has been made in the initial conversation.
Lenghty chat, ie. gaining your "confidence, "  is a time tested con man technique.
We repeatedly hear providers refer to chatty clients as time wasters, and say it's a red flag. This holds true in both sides of the equation. If a provider engages in chat vs getting down to scheduling, it's a big red flag, and I'm moving on!

Sorry but it’s gone. You fell for his talk. There’s lots of debate on here about deposits, so I won’t add to it but I will say that if you’re given a ‘family crisis’ type story to justify sending money then the best and only sensible thing to do is say “I hope things work out for you” and then end the conversation and find a more professional provider. 

Nowhere in your earlier paragraphs do you say you actually sent a deposit?  
 
And no, you generally have no recourse.

The video's credits name Barry as the pianist, and it's well known that they performed together at the Continental Baths.  According to a Wikipedia article about the baths, Barry was actually the house pianist and sometimes performed just wearing a towel like the patrons.  That I didn't previously know.

I'm pretty sure something else is at work here, as my research indicates that, if anything, one might expect to pay fewer taxes for 2023 than 2022 if one's income remained the same because there was an inflationary adjustment to tax brackets.  The individual income tax cuts made when Trump was in office expire at the end of 2025.
So, I'm guessing one or more of the following is true:
Your total (adjusted gross) income wasn't actually the same in 2023 as in 2022.
Your tax is the same but you had less withheld or made less quarterly estimated tax payments, and what you really mean is that you owe $2,000 more with your return for last year, not that your overall taxes are $2,000 higher.
Data entry error.  I have to say that while the various tax programs I've tried are great for relatively straight-forward returns, if you have one thing that doesn't apply to the vast majority of taxpayers then the program might not do a good job of guiding you through the data entry for that.  The program I use doesn't properly call attention to one tax credit I'm eligible for, and every year after the "interview" portion is done I have to use the search function in the program to guide me to the screen where I enter the data to get that tax credit. 

I'm pretty sure something else is at work here, as my research indicates that, if anything, one might expect to pay fewer taxes for 2023 than 2022 if one's income remained the same because there was an inflationary adjustment to tax brackets.  The individual income tax cuts made when Trump was in office expire at the end of 2025.
So, I'm guessing one or more of the following is true:
Your total (adjusted gross) income wasn't actually the same in 2023 as in 2022.
Your tax is the same but you had less withheld or made less quarterly estimated tax payments, and what you really mean is that you owe $2,000 more with your return for last year, not that your overall taxes are $2,000 higher.
Data entry error.  I have to say that while the various tax programs I've tried are great for relatively straight-forward returns, if you have one thing that doesn't apply to the vast majority of taxpayers then the program might not do a good job of guiding you through the data entry for that.  The program I use doesn't properly call attention to one tax credit I'm eligible for, and every year after the "interview" portion is done I have to use the search function in the program to guide me to the screen where I enter the data to get that tax credit. 

I'm pretty sure something else is at work here, as my research indicates that, if anything, one might expect to pay fewer taxes for 2023 than 2022 if one's income remained the same because there was an inflationary adjustment to tax brackets.  The individual income tax cuts made when Trump was in office expire at the end of 2025.
So, I'm guessing one or more of the following is true:
Your total (adjusted gross) income wasn't actually the same in 2023 as in 2022.
Your tax is the same but you had less withheld or made less quarterly estimated tax payments, and what you really mean is that you owe $2,000 more with your return for last year, not that your overall taxes are $2,000 higher.
Data entry error.  I have to say that while the various tax programs I've tried are great for relatively straight-forward returns, if you have one thing that doesn't apply to the vast majority of taxpayers then the program might not do a good job of guiding you through the data entry for that.  The program I use doesn't properly call attention to one tax credit I'm eligible for, and every year after the "interview" portion is done I have to use the search function in the program to guide me to the screen where I enter the data to get that tax credit. 

At the risk of repeating myself:
I don't mind age shaving withing reason.  It seems like the norm that guys pretend to be a bit younger than they are (shaving off between 5 and 10 years, depending on what age they are).  It's guys who claim to be 39 forever that really annoy me.  Even if a guy is still in great physical condition, there's no way a 60 year old is going to convince anyone he's still in his thirties.

That's my simple rule.  I just don't think it makes sense for the client unless you are talking about an extended appointment or having someone travel a significant distance to you.  If having that policy means that some guys don't want my business, so be it.

That's my simple rule.  I just don't think it makes sense for the client unless you are talking about an extended appointment or having someone travel a significant distance to you.  If having that policy means that some guys don't want my business, so be it.

I'm sure there are time wasters out there who love contact escorts that they know they aren't going to hire, but I doubt there are that many game players.  In other words, I think most men who contact escorts want to hire them, but just because they made contact doesn't mean that seals the deal.  I would suggest that if an escort is being contacted by a lot of people who end up not booking that that escort should reflect on various aspects of his business practice to determine why prospective clients end up taking their business elsewhere.  If an initial contact doesn't enhance the excitement about the prospective meeting or, worse yet, makes the prospective client leery about hiring the escort, then the escort isn't doing a good job of marketing himself.

Yes, the devil may be in the details.  For example, there's a world of difference between:
"I am glad you liked me enough to reach out to me again, but I won't be hiring you."
and
"I really enjoyed our time together, but I'm not in a position to hire you during this visit."
Unless we're dealing with an extremely thin skinned escort, I don't see why the latter response would cause them to refuse a future booking.  The former comes across as a hard dismissal, so if the response is similar to that I'm not surprised that an escort would put the client in the "don't waste my time" category.
 

I'm sure there are time wasters out there who love contact escorts that they know they aren't going to hire, but I doubt there are that many game players.  In other words, I think most men who contact escorts want to hire them, but just because they made contact doesn't mean that seals the deal.  I would suggest that if an escort is being contacted by a lot of people who end up not booking that that escort should reflect on various aspects of his business practice to determine why prospective clients end up taking their business elsewhere.  If an initial contact doesn't enhance the excitement about the prospective meeting or, worse yet, makes the prospective client leery about hiring the escort, then the escort isn't doing a good job of marketing himself.

I'm sure there are time wasters out there who love contact escorts that they know they aren't going to hire, but I doubt there are that many game players.  In other words, I think most men who contact escorts want to hire them, but just because they made contact doesn't mean that seals the deal.  I would suggest that if an escort is being contacted by a lot of people who end up not booking that that escort should reflect on various aspects of his business practice to determine why prospective clients end up taking their business elsewhere.  If an initial contact doesn't enhance the excitement about the prospective meeting or, worse yet, makes the prospective client leery about hiring the escort, then the escort isn't doing a good job of marketing himself.

I'm sure there are time wasters out there who love contact escorts that they know they aren't going to hire, but I doubt there are that many game players.  In other words, I think most men who contact escorts want to hire them, but just because they made contact doesn't mean that seals the deal.  I would suggest that if an escort is being contacted by a lot of people who end up not booking that that escort should reflect on various aspects of his business practice to determine why prospective clients end up taking their business elsewhere.  If an initial contact doesn't enhance the excitement about the prospective meeting or, worse yet, makes the prospective client leery about hiring the escort, then the escort isn't doing a good job of marketing himself.