
maninsoma
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maninsoma got a reaction from Johnrom in Providers contacting clients. Is it welcome?
I've only ever had a handful of escorts contact me after an appointment.
Two of them were traveling escorts so I appreciated them keeping in touch with me when they were visiting my area again so I could arrange appointments. I had an understanding with both of them that I welcomed hearing from them when they were visiting again.
In a few cases, I hired the guys more than once but not enough to become a regular. I don't mind a guy reaching out after a couple of visits once or maybe twice to offer another appointment, but it does become annoying if a guy keeps texting me and I haven't returned to see him again. It's the equivalent of junk mail at that point.
A few times guys have messaged me right after the appointment just to thank me for the appointment and to let me know I could contact them any time for a future appointment. I always appreciated these messages if they occurred right after the appointment and were not followed up with additional messages if I didn't reply to them.
I do understand based on previous threads here that some guys don't want to be contacted at all because they feel a need to hide their hiring activity from someone and don't want random messages popping up on their phones.
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maninsoma got a reaction from Ali Gator in amenities include metered parking
It does seem odd to add it to a list of amenities, but maybe this guy's experience is that clients are more likely to see this there than if he just mentioned it in the ad text. While not an amenity, I think it's good of him to inform clients who might not otherwise know that the guy's location only has paid parking so they can be prepared for that when visiting him. I know a lot of cities now have either meter-free paid parking (pay at a kiosk on the block or pay via a phone app), but if this guy is in an area that still has meters that require coins it's best that people know in advance they better show up with their quarters.
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maninsoma got a reaction from soloyo215 in Why do you pay for sex?
You are already receiving push-back because of how you approached your query. You want "everyone to chime in" with their reasons for being a client, but you haven't done so yourself. If you're new to this (or even just in the contemplative stage), why not first share what your motivations are and ask others to share theirs?
I'm sure the most common answers you'll get:
To get men the client doesn't believe they will get otherwise. For example, a youngish jock isn't too likely to be looking for a middle aged or older bear.
For efficiency.
Because they get excited by the act of paying someone for sex.
Because they can afford to do so and don't feel like they need an excuse.
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maninsoma got a reaction from Johnrom in amenities include metered parking
It does seem odd to add it to a list of amenities, but maybe this guy's experience is that clients are more likely to see this there than if he just mentioned it in the ad text. While not an amenity, I think it's good of him to inform clients who might not otherwise know that the guy's location only has paid parking so they can be prepared for that when visiting him. I know a lot of cities now have either meter-free paid parking (pay at a kiosk on the block or pay via a phone app), but if this guy is in an area that still has meters that require coins it's best that people know in advance they better show up with their quarters.
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maninsoma got a reaction from + JamesB in amenities include metered parking
It does seem odd to add it to a list of amenities, but maybe this guy's experience is that clients are more likely to see this there than if he just mentioned it in the ad text. While not an amenity, I think it's good of him to inform clients who might not otherwise know that the guy's location only has paid parking so they can be prepared for that when visiting him. I know a lot of cities now have either meter-free paid parking (pay at a kiosk on the block or pay via a phone app), but if this guy is in an area that still has meters that require coins it's best that people know in advance they better show up with their quarters.
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maninsoma got a reaction from + DrownedBoy in amenities include metered parking
It does seem odd to add it to a list of amenities, but maybe this guy's experience is that clients are more likely to see this there than if he just mentioned it in the ad text. While not an amenity, I think it's good of him to inform clients who might not otherwise know that the guy's location only has paid parking so they can be prepared for that when visiting him. I know a lot of cities now have either meter-free paid parking (pay at a kiosk on the block or pay via a phone app), but if this guy is in an area that still has meters that require coins it's best that people know in advance they better show up with their quarters.
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maninsoma got a reaction from + Pensant in amenities include metered parking
It does seem odd to add it to a list of amenities, but maybe this guy's experience is that clients are more likely to see this there than if he just mentioned it in the ad text. While not an amenity, I think it's good of him to inform clients who might not otherwise know that the guy's location only has paid parking so they can be prepared for that when visiting him. I know a lot of cities now have either meter-free paid parking (pay at a kiosk on the block or pay via a phone app), but if this guy is in an area that still has meters that require coins it's best that people know in advance they better show up with their quarters.
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maninsoma got a reaction from BaronArtz in Is working as an escort very risky?
This is especially good advice in this day and age.
I was a broke-ass undergraduate student many decades ago, and that was with a part time job while attending school full time. I get the attraction of doing something more lucrative, but if you really are drawn to do this I think it would make more sense to learn massage and then advertise on a masseur website. You could always offer more in person if it feels right, and then you won't have an online footprint connecting you with sex work. You still have the issue of whether you are legally allowed to work here outside of on-campus jobs. Do you want to finish your studies here or are you willing to risk deportation because you have been working in an unauthorized capacity and that's been discovered (or reported) to ICE?
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maninsoma got a reaction from + KensingtonHomo in Is working as an escort very risky?
This is especially good advice in this day and age.
I was a broke-ass undergraduate student many decades ago, and that was with a part time job while attending school full time. I get the attraction of doing something more lucrative, but if you really are drawn to do this I think it would make more sense to learn massage and then advertise on a masseur website. You could always offer more in person if it feels right, and then you won't have an online footprint connecting you with sex work. You still have the issue of whether you are legally allowed to work here outside of on-campus jobs. Do you want to finish your studies here or are you willing to risk deportation because you have been working in an unauthorized capacity and that's been discovered (or reported) to ICE?
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maninsoma reacted to Philly50 in Daniel_Piotti in Philadelphia
I'm not sure I've found any advertiser whose map me shows his actual location. At least not here in Philly.
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maninsoma got a reaction from Luv2play in Jamie of Sean Cody has passed at 35
You think wrong, then. I don't hope that my favorite porn performers are all straight, and I don't hope the gay ones "settle down with a wife & kids." I get your sentiment -- that once a performer leaves porn that they have a fulfilling life. I just don't think that necessarily means having a hetero-normative life.
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maninsoma got a reaction from kingsley88 in Any Recent Experiences with Rainer?
I only hired him two times and it was a long time ago, but I didn't experience any odor issue, either. The only way I can imagine bringing up the issue without being offensive is to not bring up the issue but rather to simply say that showering together at the beginning of the session is a major turn on and ask if he can accommodate that request.
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maninsoma got a reaction from LookingAround in Any Recent Experiences with Rainer?
I only hired him two times and it was a long time ago, but I didn't experience any odor issue, either. The only way I can imagine bringing up the issue without being offensive is to not bring up the issue but rather to simply say that showering together at the beginning of the session is a major turn on and ask if he can accommodate that request.
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maninsoma reacted to LookingAround in Any Recent Experiences with Rainer?
I've hired him and never experienced even a hint of an issue. Personally, I think it's way over, blown here by people who have an agenda. If it were me, I would not bring it up. But you have to decide for yourself.
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maninsoma got a reaction from JMS in ANGELBR is why I might have to move to Boston.
Maybe because they feel the options available to select are too limiting and they'd rather have a conversation/exchange of texts about it. I can imagine a guy being versatile for some guys but not others (e.g., not wanting to bottom for guys with larger than average penises).
I agree that this guy is cute, and I'd probably find him even cuter without that wisp of a mustache.
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maninsoma got a reaction from BSR in Jamie of Sean Cody has passed at 35
You think wrong, then. I don't hope that my favorite porn performers are all straight, and I don't hope the gay ones "settle down with a wife & kids." I get your sentiment -- that once a performer leaves porn that they have a fulfilling life. I just don't think that necessarily means having a hetero-normative life.
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maninsoma got a reaction from mike carey in Jamie of Sean Cody has passed at 35
You think wrong, then. I don't hope that my favorite porn performers are all straight, and I don't hope the gay ones "settle down with a wife & kids." I get your sentiment -- that once a performer leaves porn that they have a fulfilling life. I just don't think that necessarily means having a hetero-normative life.
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maninsoma got a reaction from MenLoveAvenue in Is working as an escort very risky?
This is especially good advice in this day and age.
I was a broke-ass undergraduate student many decades ago, and that was with a part time job while attending school full time. I get the attraction of doing something more lucrative, but if you really are drawn to do this I think it would make more sense to learn massage and then advertise on a masseur website. You could always offer more in person if it feels right, and then you won't have an online footprint connecting you with sex work. You still have the issue of whether you are legally allowed to work here outside of on-campus jobs. Do you want to finish your studies here or are you willing to risk deportation because you have been working in an unauthorized capacity and that's been discovered (or reported) to ICE?
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maninsoma got a reaction from + Just Sayin in Provider with picture giving the finger
I'm pretty sure we've had this discussion before, but just to chime in again with my perspective: It also turns me off. I guess I wouldn't necessarily write the guy off based on one photo of him flipping off the camera if everything else in his ad appealed to me, but when I see photos like this they generally seem to be attached to ads that reveal an attitude that doesn't appeal to me.
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maninsoma got a reaction from + DrownedBoy in Is working as an escort very risky?
This is especially good advice in this day and age.
I was a broke-ass undergraduate student many decades ago, and that was with a part time job while attending school full time. I get the attraction of doing something more lucrative, but if you really are drawn to do this I think it would make more sense to learn massage and then advertise on a masseur website. You could always offer more in person if it feels right, and then you won't have an online footprint connecting you with sex work. You still have the issue of whether you are legally allowed to work here outside of on-campus jobs. Do you want to finish your studies here or are you willing to risk deportation because you have been working in an unauthorized capacity and that's been discovered (or reported) to ICE?
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maninsoma reacted to urbanfetish in Yes I hire Gay Male Hookers ! So what?
I only pay escorts to talk about things like NY vs Chicago pizza, conspiracy theories and geology. They insist on having sex with me afterwards for free. Who am I to turn them down? 🤷♂️
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maninsoma reacted to Simon Suraci in Is working as an escort very risky?
Personally, I think you’re going about this line of work for the wrong reasons.
Monetizing your sex life, for one. This phrase neatly summarizes the sentiment discussed in so many other threads on these forums. It just doesn’t work. A much larger number of men would do it if that’s all it took.
For another, your primary interest is in the income, not meeting needs you personally are well suited to fulfill. Nothing wrong taking a fair income for delivering high value services to a willing clientele; however, it takes a lot to provide m4m services effectively and be successful. More than looks, and certainly you need experience and talent either on the massage table, in the bedroom, or both. Plus marketing and business savvy, patience, emotional maturity, boundaries, people skills, and many other soft skills.
You’re going about it quite casually. This is serious work. To do it well IMHO, you need to do it for the right reasons (beyond a quick buck). This is about meeting very real human needs, not Grindr with the slight caveat of money changing hands. It takes empathy, compassion, and a selfless, service oriented mindset to do a good job. Missing these big picture items, you will likely burn out, and not succeed. Then you’re just another mediocre provider of many, the likes of which the men here pick apart mercilessly and publicly for both shallow and legitimate reasons. Then you inevitably fade into the background and quit 6-24 months after starting. Don’t be that guy.
To succeed and sustain, you need to keep on your best game and continue to grow and get better. A short sighted, half ass effort in this biz is immediately apparent to everyone, from the ads you post to the first impression you impart to every new client in person.
Lastly, I personally feel you are already in a much too vulnerable position being in the US on any visa, student or otherwise. It’s one thing being a US citizen and kicked out of your apartment lease because your landlord knows or suspects you are a masseur or sex worker. That sucks, but it’s quite another scale of consequence to be kicked out of the country for the same. I wouldn’t jeopardize your life. I need to refrain from saying anything further to expand this point, because it wouldn’t conform to the forum guidelines.
Be careful, is all. You already have an excellent opportunity studying here doing something you presumably have a long term goal to fulfill. I would hate to see something bad happen to you or to miss out on your dreams over a quick buck side hustle your heart was never truly into in the first place.
Just my take. Do what you will. If you want to do it anyway, some of the others here have already made some good points about not showing your face, not using your real name, taking steps for plausible deniability, shifting some risk onto others by tagging along on 4-hand gigs, etc.
There’s more to it than all that, for instance how to properly declare your income and pay taxes, and how to set up a business entity to do so legally. In the end, it’s not always about what you are actually doing, but what Uncle Sam discovers about his missing slice of your pie that catches up to you and ruins you, but that’s a whole other subject. My advice is don’t go there. Be safe. Enjoy the incredible opportunities you already have. I too was a dirt poor college student many moons ago. I was disciplined. I budgeted. I made it work. Money won’t always be so tight.
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maninsoma got a reaction from poppop0011 in Is working as an escort very risky?
This is especially good advice in this day and age.
I was a broke-ass undergraduate student many decades ago, and that was with a part time job while attending school full time. I get the attraction of doing something more lucrative, but if you really are drawn to do this I think it would make more sense to learn massage and then advertise on a masseur website. You could always offer more in person if it feels right, and then you won't have an online footprint connecting you with sex work. You still have the issue of whether you are legally allowed to work here outside of on-campus jobs. Do you want to finish your studies here or are you willing to risk deportation because you have been working in an unauthorized capacity and that's been discovered (or reported) to ICE?
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maninsoma got a reaction from liubit in Meet up that only led to talking a/k/a therapy. WTF
It's horrible that this "provider" did this to you, but as others have suggested if you find yourself in a similar situation in the future then you need to be more proactive about addressing it early. If I really felt like the guy was such a mess that he wouldn't be able to perform well, I'd simply say something to that effect (more kindly, of course) and send him on his way without paying (or, if I knew he had to travel a bit to get to me, I'd give him a small amount of money for his travel efforts). I imagine saying something like, "It sounds like you have a lot of worries on your mind and this isn't a good time for you to be working. Let's do this another time when you're feeling up to it." That would still give the guy an opportunity to apologize, state that he didn't mean to go on about his personal problems, and initiate what you hired him for -- or he can leave. If he's just playing a game (trying to get paid for doing nothing but talking about himself), then he can make the decision to cut the crap and give you what you hired him for or leave.
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maninsoma got a reaction from + m_writer in Is working as an escort very risky?
This is especially good advice in this day and age.
I was a broke-ass undergraduate student many decades ago, and that was with a part time job while attending school full time. I get the attraction of doing something more lucrative, but if you really are drawn to do this I think it would make more sense to learn massage and then advertise on a masseur website. You could always offer more in person if it feels right, and then you won't have an online footprint connecting you with sex work. You still have the issue of whether you are legally allowed to work here outside of on-campus jobs. Do you want to finish your studies here or are you willing to risk deportation because you have been working in an unauthorized capacity and that's been discovered (or reported) to ICE?