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Hi, I've tried him both in LA and Mexico. He just arrived a few weeks ago. He is currently staying in OC but does outcalls to LA. Highly recommend, that ass is to die for.

Hi, I've tried him both in LA and Mexico. He just arrived a few weeks ago. He is currently staying in OC but does outcalls to LA. Highly recommend, that ass is to die for.

perhaps they're out there if you decide to look for an 18-40 yo man instead of a "boi" or boy.......

I heard from more than one white friend (clients) who have said something on the lines of, given stereotypes of higher rates of crime (violence, drug use etc) among African Americans, they will avoid that demographic in providers since such meetings are already fraught with risks.

People of Color have to work harder and for less money than their White brothers and sisters in most professions, not only in escorting. 

Just FYI: 
From Club Papi email today:
After 4 + years, Club Papi is excited to announce our Return to Tijuana, Mexico @ PREMIER MENS CLUB located on the famous Revolucion Blvd in the heart of the gay zone, on Friday, April 28th!! Debauchery at its finest, as we bring together an awesome cast of ONLYFANS Stars | Papi Tijuana Go-Go's | LA & SF Trophy Boyz for another Scandalous PAPI TJ PARTY.  Rupaul Drag Race Season 9 Star KIMORA BLAC, joins the legendary MS LOLA as we take over PREMIER MENS CLUB for the most Scandalous fiesta in town! SOLO PARA HOMBRES.....MEN ONLY!
BADBOI BENVI & CAZ HUNTER EN VIVO
** LIVE TRIPLE ESCANDALO SHOWS & N*DE DANCING
** LIVE J/O SHOWS
** PRIVATE LAP DANCE ROOMS
** VIP BOTTLE SERVICE AND TABLES AVAILABLE (PLEASE EMAIL US AT CLUBPAPIPRODUCTIONS@GMAIL.COM FOR RESERVATIONS) 
** FREE ANDREW CHRISTIAN GIVEAWAYS
** RPDR KIMORA BLAC PERFORMS LIVE

Just FYI: 
From Club Papi email today:
After 4 + years, Club Papi is excited to announce our Return to Tijuana, Mexico @ PREMIER MENS CLUB located on the famous Revolucion Blvd in the heart of the gay zone, on Friday, April 28th!! Debauchery at its finest, as we bring together an awesome cast of ONLYFANS Stars | Papi Tijuana Go-Go's | LA & SF Trophy Boyz for another Scandalous PAPI TJ PARTY.  Rupaul Drag Race Season 9 Star KIMORA BLAC, joins the legendary MS LOLA as we take over PREMIER MENS CLUB for the most Scandalous fiesta in town! SOLO PARA HOMBRES.....MEN ONLY!
BADBOI BENVI & CAZ HUNTER EN VIVO
** LIVE TRIPLE ESCANDALO SHOWS & N*DE DANCING
** LIVE J/O SHOWS
** PRIVATE LAP DANCE ROOMS
** VIP BOTTLE SERVICE AND TABLES AVAILABLE (PLEASE EMAIL US AT CLUBPAPIPRODUCTIONS@GMAIL.COM FOR RESERVATIONS) 
** FREE ANDREW CHRISTIAN GIVEAWAYS
** RPDR KIMORA BLAC PERFORMS LIVE

Just FYI: 
From Club Papi email today:
After 4 + years, Club Papi is excited to announce our Return to Tijuana, Mexico @ PREMIER MENS CLUB located on the famous Revolucion Blvd in the heart of the gay zone, on Friday, April 28th!! Debauchery at its finest, as we bring together an awesome cast of ONLYFANS Stars | Papi Tijuana Go-Go's | LA & SF Trophy Boyz for another Scandalous PAPI TJ PARTY.  Rupaul Drag Race Season 9 Star KIMORA BLAC, joins the legendary MS LOLA as we take over PREMIER MENS CLUB for the most Scandalous fiesta in town! SOLO PARA HOMBRES.....MEN ONLY!
BADBOI BENVI & CAZ HUNTER EN VIVO
** LIVE TRIPLE ESCANDALO SHOWS & N*DE DANCING
** LIVE J/O SHOWS
** PRIVATE LAP DANCE ROOMS
** VIP BOTTLE SERVICE AND TABLES AVAILABLE (PLEASE EMAIL US AT CLUBPAPIPRODUCTIONS@GMAIL.COM FOR RESERVATIONS) 
** FREE ANDREW CHRISTIAN GIVEAWAYS
** RPDR KIMORA BLAC PERFORMS LIVE

How would he know it is me?

Thank you I am truly grateful and I have a very positive outlook and I probably did not sound positive but I really do that was just a bad moment and I debated keeping it to myself but then I feel that people should be told about these guys after all that's what our site here is for. I appreciate your kind words and encouragement. I have treatment tomorrow and I know I will be sick for just a couple of days and I will share something else with you. I have been in recovery from alcohol for 33 years. One of the ways I cope with the sickness from my cancer treatment is that I remind myself that for the last 6 months of my drinking 33 years ago I felt that way every day with the tremors and the shakes and the vomiting. So two days a week twice a month is not so bad! LOL have a beautiful day

I really needed to hear that and I cannot thank you enough. I will certainly get a massage at massage envy which is better than nothing I just hate what I have to go through sometimes to do that because it usually does not work out most therapists do not want to massage somebody who has cancer. I don't know if you have ever seen the intake forms but they always ask if you have cancer and it was quite obvious that I do. That was another reason why I come to the sensual sites. Thank you for understanding for the great encouragement. I usually have pretty good self-esteem but cancer has taken some of that but not my spirit I think earlier I was just in a horrific pain because he was just so vicious but I really should not give him credibility because he has none. Thank you again.

Agree 💯
Plus, the art of seduction by the dancer is all part of the enjoyment.  That's why it's called a "dance".

Yes, it's way cheaper if you use the local escort websites instead of Rentmen and chat with guys through Whatsapp instead of texting. If you use Rentmen guys have the expectation you will pay them LA/NYC rates. Most guys in Mexico City can be had for 1800-2300 pesos (which is about $90-$115) I believe in Colombia it is even lower. Not sure about Brazil, though.

Then I probably won't go. I mean, what's the point? Especially because some of the guys on that list are as you said "not-so-hot." I'd rather just hire an escort or two seems cheaper and more efficient tbh.

Then I probably won't go. I mean, what's the point? Especially because some of the guys on that list are as you said "not-so-hot." I'd rather just hire an escort or two seems cheaper and more efficient tbh.

Not to oversimplify, but my advice is to learn from a recession business environment and apply it in future investment decisions and business cycles.  I have found over 40 years of investing that I made more money by far from the decisions I made during bad times as opposed to the decisions I made during good times. In 2008 - 2010, I nervously chose  to invest in stocks during a terrible recession and have been rewarded well over the Long Term.  Good luck to all.  

Since I have taken over running the site nearly two years ago, the Political Issues forum has represented literally 90% of all of the issues that the moderators have had to deal with.  We have attempted to keep the forum civil and a place where people can have mature discussions about those topics.  This includes implementing tools to remind people about our rules, giving reminders and warnings, etc.  I did this because I felt having an area that people could have an open dialog might provide a venue where people could exchange ideas and learn from each other.  
This has not happened over the last two years.  Instead it has simply become a cesspool of topics that simply attacked other members and baited the other side.  The moderators have literally have had to spend HOURS each week dealing with the output and there is nothing else I can think of that will make people use the forum as it was intended.  As a result, the Political Issues discussion forum is now retired and has been hidden on this site.  
Our community guidelines will be updated to reflect that political discussion is no longer permitted on the site. 

Let’s assume the escort only sees a couple clients a week on some weeks. Even seeing 1 $300 client a day hypothetically is actually $300/24 hours a day of texting/RM messages = $12.50/hr.
Now if someone is very low volume or in a market where majority of the gay life is on hookup apps, or there isn’t much demand in the area: That $300/168 hours a week would actually equate to: $1.78/hour. 
 
Remember: $300/hr isn’t x 40 hours a week. 
 

After being overweight for most of my adult life I don’t offend easily and have a thick skin. (Pun intended).  I’m not sure if you even read my post, but that’s just what I am doing, having gone from 477 to 250 lbs in three years.  My health is better than it has ever been the past ten years and my doctor tells me I’ve added years to my life.
The point of the post was to get feedback on what I should expect from providers at this size. 
I can assure you that any overweight person does not need to be told to get to a gym, we live in these bodies and whether or not we show it, we know deep down the effect excess weight has on our health.  Unsolicited advice like this is neither helpful or supportive.  

Weak pivot Fox News...  Try harder the next time

Anything but body fat is acceptable to wear 

Imagine if someone suggested that providers  charge extra for ugly clients.... The whinging would go on for pages and pages.
 

This blue-balling happens in NYC too. You patiently wait for the dancer of your choice to free up from the whales who are on a power trip and hope you can catch them when they need to use the restroom or get a smoke. Ambush it is - for lesser mortals.

I can corroborate what was posted in the other thread: 
I only saw Camilo but he doesn't let you kiss him on the mouth, demands the money upfront, doesn't provide actual rates beforehand (or changes them), and rushes you (the total encounter was 45 mins including the 10 mins it took me to Zelle him the money and a small chat we had after the session was done.)

It's a shame. I liked going to the weekly events. You got to know the dancers and have some fun. Then when the nude parties came along the dancers then would grab you for a dance vs now it's a few guys who take these guys for an hour or so in the lap dance room. The popular ones never seem to make it out and get to meet any new patrons. They're looking for who's going to take them home after the party and pay them thousand of dollars since this is their job to make money.