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The whole case is strange, and think the cops know more than what we are being told.

Inspector Glutes was wondering why investigators went to the roof and towed a car days after her purported  abduction. Why was there a camera on her newly redone roof? Roofers targeting a vulnerable old lady?

https://parade.com/news/savannah-guthrie-mom-nancy-camera-found-roof-neighbor-spotted-key-detail-prompted-police-search

Any thoughts / theories?

 

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Random, personal, or otherwise specifically targeting a journalist? Terrible no matter which. 

I hope Nancy is not in physical peril. You deliberately separate a 84yr old from medicine and/or a heart-managing device, the risk of an additional charge of murder gets higher every hour.

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4 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

You deliberately separate a 84yr old from medicine and/or a heart-managing device, the risk of an additional charge of murder gets higher every hour.

 

3 hours ago, sync said:

The victim's blood at the abduction site is a very grim first find.

For these reasons, I think she’s already dead.  My initial gut feeling was that she was accidentally hit by a car and the assailant took her body to cover it up, but now I think it was a planned abduction. 

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3 hours ago, ShortCutie7 said:

 

For these reasons, I think she’s already dead.  My initial gut feeling was that she was accidentally hit by a car and the assailant took her body to cover it up, but now I think it was a planned abduction. 

I have the same feeling about her already being dead, and because of the way the investigation has widened, I also have an eerie feeling a family member may be somehow involved.

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Fa,ily is always the direction in which the authorities point.  For how long were the Ramseys looked at for the murder of their daughter.  In that case, my money is still on the step brother.  My gut is they will not find her body anytime soon or they will find a very fat coyote.  

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It's a very odd case as every scenario has some holes. If she was kidnapped for ransom it appears all the ransom notes were fakes. I would think there would have been a physical one left at the house. If it was then just someone who hates Savannah Guthrie why kidnap her and not just kill her and leave her there. And if it was a burglary gone bad you would never take the person again, you'd just kill and leave them there.

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When the means of payment is crypto, that means it can't be traced. So the comms (via TMZ really?) and extending the deadlines and changing the the crypto account is really odd, and sure is taking up a lot of space in the news cycle. 🤔

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Having spent hotel nights watching Forensics Files and First 48 Tulsa (Don’t ask me why murder mysteries fascinate people…but if anything it’s educational that it’s not always who you think it is), it could be anything. It’s too early to speculate anything at this point, cases like this can take longer than a few weeks to figure out.

That said, Tucson is quite a beautiful place. But the streets can be sketchy. It attracts retirees like Florida does, but also has college and resort communities. I took a picture while out “hiking” (which was really more of a jogging trail) last year.  

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A former FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit Profiler (like in “Silence of the Lambs”) helped generate a video where she provided commentary on the doorbell video of the person coming onto Mrs. Guthrie’s porch during the night.  The analyst points out how calmly and deliberately he moved, how prepared he seemed to be based on how he’d covered himself from video surveillance, and how he appeared to be carrying supplies that he might want for whatever he was about to do.  She commented that she wouldn’t be surprised if this individual had done something like this before.  

It was a pretty chilling analysis.  Here’s a link to the audio component.

 

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On 2/27/2026 at 4:35 AM, JB_Studio38 said:

Having spent hotel nights watching Forensics Files and First 48 Tulsa (Don’t ask me why murder mysteries fascinate people…but if anything it’s educational that it’s not always who you think it is), it could be anything. It’s too early to speculate anything at this point, cases like this can take longer than a few weeks to figure out.

That said, Tucson is quite a beautiful place. But the streets can be sketchy. It attracts retirees like Florida does, but also has college and resort communities. I took a picture while out “hiking” (which was really more of a jogging trail) last year.  

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Do you still think it is "too early?" Seems very late to me. The press have all disappeared, the police have moved back to Phoenix, and one infamous law enforcement officer is off drinking beer with the hockey team. 

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47 minutes ago, Becket said:

Do you still think it is "too early?" Seems very late to me. The press have all disappeared, the police have moved back to Phoenix, and one infamous law enforcement officer is off drinking beer with the hockey team. 

 

On 2/26/2026 at 2:22 PM, azdr0710 said:

Kash has been working really hard on the Nancy Guthrie abduction :  r/PoliticalMemes

well, who can blame him... he's finally acknowledged by jocks, he thinks he's one of them. 

 

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2 hours ago, Becket said:

Do you still think it is "too early?" Seems very late to me. The press have all disappeared, the police have moved back to Phoenix, and one infamous law enforcement officer is off drinking beer with the hockey team. 

If it’s not on one of the HLN shows, it’s too soon…

 

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It's been a long time since the ransom payment was raised to a million dollars and, apparently there has not yet been a response.

Sadly, this is appearing to be moving from search and rescue to search and recovery.

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10 hours ago, Pensant said:

I never understood the mass interest in these things. It must stem from the years of reality TV and crime serials. Not owning a TV is a blessing. Of course, I know 90% of the population disagrees.

I don’t own a television either, having ditched it during the pandemic. It helps a lot in filtering out the background nonsense in the world today.

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I've been following several of these high-profile cases (Anna Kepler, Celeste Rivas Hernandez, etc). It feels like not much is happening with most of them. It's prompting online sleuths to fill in the blanks, creating a mess.

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I agree that poor Nancy was probably made unalive the night of her abduction - I say "abduction" because  I don't think this was a kidnapping for ransom - I suspect that her son-in-law, Tommaso Cioni (and maybe his wife Annie) were involved. He was the last person to see her alive, he was very familiar with Nancy's home and knew she didn't pay to have her security cameras record, and the guy at the front door was wearing black nitrile gloves - the kind that biologists wear in their labs (Tommaso teaches biology). I think it was noteworthy that the police have spent hours searching the Tommaso home - and have impounded his wife's (Nancy's daughter, Annie) car. Also, some have speculated about the similarity of Tommaso's band-mate, Dominic Evans (see photo below), who has a criminal record of burglary, robbery, and embezzlement. Motive: not burglary or robbery as nothing of value was taken. Nancy's estate includes her home which is currently valued at over $1 million and, if Nancy is deceased her estate is likely going to her kids.  Note also that the ransom was sent to the media, not to the family (most kidnappers don't like the publicity so they deal privately with family)  - so, whoever sent the ransom note wanted to make sure the media knew that kidnapping was the motive. No one has touched the bitcoin site thus far that the kidnappers wanted the ransom deposited.

 

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