I'm fed up....

[Blk225]

Something happened last night that. Its wasn't life threatning, but just discouraging. In my relatively short life time, I have hired only five times ever.in the span of 10 years when I first hired. I'm not someone with much means but in the times I have had, the hires were porn star escorts who were good experiences. This time I was staying at a hotel in New England. I saw this one person who normally gives massages and also escorts. This person was well reviewed so I thought hey why don't I try since I was only staying at the hotel for the night. I called and politely told the escort what I was looking for  (vanilla experience, missionary style frotting most of all). The escort who was very polite on the phone was ok with frotting but mentioned to me they wouldn't be available for another hour... 1am. After a bit of back and forth and almost backing out, I decided to go ahead as this escort had great reviews both on their masseur profile and rentmen. By the time he showed up, near 1:30 am, I was a bit tired but excited and was looking forward. He comes in and it was a pleasant exchange.

  He tells me right before, can we handle the business first. I must admit I was a little surprised but I thought you know what, to make sure no issues and to establish trust, let me just pay him. He takes off his clothes, and I mine and we lie down on the bed side by side. jerking ourselves and then jerking each other. He asked whether I wanted to suck him, to which I replied that I haven't done it before and was not something I was keen to do, as honestly I wanted really to just frot', he pushed the issue a few times and sucked me for a bit, then got between my legs and jerked me off.

I asked him after as I'm a multiple cummer if he wanted to try he frotting which he was fine just jerking himself off which he did. Honestly, its not that he wasn't nice, it felt more like false advertising. I told him what I wanted and he seems ok on the phone, and honestly he left after 30 minutes. He even said after he came that he is not a multiple cummer and after making about 5 mins of small talk, left. He was nice I'll say that, nice body , yes for someone who trains, but overall I  feel duped out of an experience in which I paid his rate of $300 for. I don't have these experiences at all usually, and I'm extremely extremely disappointed and have severe remorse over the experience. So honestly after trying to connect with escorts over the years which the vast majority were not into frotting which I would assume would be the most simplest of things, I'm no longer going to be trying to connect with escorts. I am that disappointed in what happened last night

[+ azdr0710]

first, take a breath......please don't give up on the whole hobby because of this!.....I realize this is a rare occasion for you and you feel burned..... 

it's disappointing that he didn't help you with the missionary frot thing....it's possible he doesn't like doing it with strangers??  (too intimate?, unable to get himself off that way?).......

gotta say you might need to be a little assertive (in a friendly way!) if a provider tries to take off early.....say "we still have 30 more minutes" and offer a massage, some spooning, chat, or more......

your experience is certainly much better than some of the horror stories we read about here in the forum....tales of lost deposits, no shows, pictures don't match real thing, personal items stolen, "I gotta go out to my car for a minute" litter the forum......

Edited yesterday at 02:38 AM by azdr0710

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

22 minutes ago, Blk225 said:

  He tells me right before, can we handle the business first.

... And this is where I say thank you for your time, please leave. 

You pay up front for:  Vending machines & fast food

You pay at the end for:  Gourmet restaurants 

Asking for payment up front means expect junk food and a quickie.

[DMonDude]

It definitely sucks he didn't do everything he said on the phone, but i personally wouldn't let that stop you from doing this. That'd be like trying a new restaurant and after not liking that places food or having a bad waiter, you swear off eating entirely. It's a bit of an overreaction. Sure, don't go back to that restaurant, but there are plenty of other restaurants that are good. As evidenced by your own prior experiences. This hobby, and anything really, has good and bad in it and is never perfect. So every now and then you're going to find a dud. It's kind of part of the game unfortunately.

Edited yesterday at 02:36 AM by DMonDude

[bimuscle]

1:30 am, asking money upfront. It’s a recipe for disaster. Plain and simple. It does suck it happened to you. I guess that’s one of the reasons I hate hiring escorts entirely. I would rather hire an escort unknown and fly in for multiple nights. I always seem to be able to get everything at face value when I do that. 

[+ SidewaysDM]

I am really sad to hear of your bad experience with your provider in New England. Don’t let that negative experience make you bitter and negative, about future experiences. As several on this thread have said, don’t pay up front, ever! Even if you find a provider with good reviews on RM and RM…….definitely make sure you check their reputation with The Company of Men forum. I am fairly new to hiring, and the REAL and ACCURATE reviews from this community, have never let me down. After a short break, if you follow the advice on this thread, you will have a great time with some awesome provders! Good luck! 

[56harrisond]

7 hours ago, Blk225 said:

This person was well reviewed so I thought hey why don't I try...

Where are they well reviewed? We know Rent Men reviews are suspect (multiply threads on that). It's not foolproof and YMMV, but a provider that has positive reviews from reputable CoM members can be trusted.

[+ PhileasFogg]

I can’t imagine how hard it is for providers to tailor specifically to every need that comes up.  So much is spontaneous and in the moment.   While it wasn’t exactly what you wanted, it doesn’t sound like a terrible experience to me

[Blk225]

11 hours ago, azdr0710 said:

first, take a breath......please don't give up on the whole hobby because of this!.....I realize this is a rare occasion for you and you feel burned..... 

it's disappointing that he didn't help you with the missionary frot thing....it's possible he doesn't like doing it with strangers??  (too intimate?, unable to get himself off that way?).......

gotta say you might need to be a little assertive (in a friendly way!) if a provider tries to take off early.....say "we still have 30 more minutes" and offer a massage, some spooning, chat, or more......

your experience is certainly much better than some of the horror stories we read about here in the forum....tales of lost deposits, no shows, pictures don't match real thing, personal items stolen, "I gotta go out to my car for a minute" litter the forum......

Thank you so much. I don't know I think I would have to really give myself time to reflect. but thank you so much for your insight

[Blk225]

3 hours ago, 56harrisond said:

Where are they well reviewed? We know Rent Men reviews are suspect (multiply threads on that). It's not foolproof and YMMV, but a provider that has positive reviews from reputable CoM members can be trusted.

Rentmen and Rent masseur and they also had a thread on here as well. I definitely tried to do my due diligence as someone who doesn't hire often and goes years between hiring. Lesson learned.

[Blk225]

43 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said:

I can’t imagine how hard it is for providers to tailor specifically to every need that comes up.  So much is spontaneous and in the moment.   While it wasn’t exactly what you wanted, it doesn’t sound like a terrible experience to me

Sir I really got to be honest with you. I am someone who albeit knows that not every provider will comply and such, but I did my diligence and called first. I spoke with the provider, told him what I was looking for. He agreed. He very much took charge and when I mentioned the request, he says I'm good here. You were not there, he left prior to the hour, about 30 minutes and because of my inexperience and trying to be nice learned a hard lesson. As much as it may seem like it wasn't bad to you, it was bad to me. The provider knew and could sense my disappointment and couldn't wait to leave. But you know what lesson learned and thanks for your response nonetheless

[+ PhileasFogg]

58 minutes ago, Blk225 said:

Sir I really got to be honest with you. I am someone who albeit knows that not every provider will comply and such, but I did my diligence and called first. I spoke with the provider, told him what I was looking for. He agreed. He very much took charge and when I mentioned the request, he says I'm good here. You were not there, he left prior to the hour, about 30 minutes and because of my inexperience and trying to be nice learned a hard lesson. As much as it may seem like it wasn't bad to you, it was bad to me. The provider knew and could sense my disappointment and couldn't wait to leave. But you know what lesson learned and thanks for your response nonetheless

I understand.  I’m not being critical.   How you process the experience is your choice to make….but I can assure you many here have had much worse.

[marylander1940]

13 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

... And this is where I say thank you for your time, please leave. 

You pay up front for:  Vending machines & fast food

You pay at the end for:  Gourmet restaurants 

Asking for payment up front means expect junk food and a quickie.

Agreed!

[Reggyreg56]

49 minutes ago, PhileasFogg said:

I understand.  I’m not being critical.   How you process the experience is your choice to make….but I can assure you many here have had much worse.

[Reggyreg56]

13 hours ago, Blk225 said:

Something happened last night that. Its wasn't life threatning, but just discouraging. In my relatively short life time, I have hired only five times ever.in the span of 10 years when I first hired. I'm not someone with much means but in the times I have had, the hires were porn star escorts who were good experiences. This time I was staying at a hotel in New England. I saw this one person who normally gives massages and also escorts. This person was well reviewed so I thought hey why don't I try since I was only staying at the hotel for the night. I called and politely told the escort what I was looking for  (vanilla experience, missionary style frotting most of all). The escort who was very polite on the phone was ok with frotting but mentioned to me they wouldn't be available for another hour... 1am. After a bit of back and forth and almost backing out, I decided to go ahead as this escort had great reviews both on their masseur profile and rentmen. By the time he showed up, near 1:30 am, I was a bit tired but excited and was looking forward. He comes in and it was a pleasant exchange.

  He tells me right before, can we handle the business first. I must admit I was a little surprised but I thought you know what, to make sure no issues and to establish trust, let me just pay him. He takes off his clothes, and I mine and we lie down on the bed side by side. jerking ourselves and then jerking each other. He asked whether I wanted to suck him, to which I replied that I haven't done it before and was not something I was keen to do, as honestly I wanted really to just frot', he pushed the issue a few times and sucked me for a bit, then got between my legs and jerked me off.

I asked him after as I'm a multiple cummer if he wanted to try he frotting which he was fine just jerking himself off which he did. Honestly, its not that he wasn't nice, it felt more like false advertising. I told him what I wanted and he seems ok on the phone, and honestly he left after 30 minutes. He even said after he came that he is not a multiple cummer and after making about 5 mins of small talk, left. He was nice I'll say that, nice body , yes for someone who trains, but overall I  feel duped out of an experience in which I paid his rate of $300 for. I don't have these experiences at all usually, and I'm extremely extremely disappointed and have severe remorse over the experience. So honestly after trying to connect with escorts over the years which the vast majority were not into frotting which I would assume would be the most simplest of things, I'm no longer going to be trying to connect with escorts. I am that disappointed in what happened last night

I don't blame you at all. I had a similar experience once. Like you, I really enjoy frotting. I asked the escort if he was okay with that and enthusiastically he said yes but when we met and he got his money he played dumb. I was furious. It took me a long while to try again (years in fact) Even now I rarely meet providers these days. You might just need a long break. Good luck to you.

[Nightowl]

I think it might have been a combination of him agreeing to your requests on the phone just to get your business, and him assuming that someone looking for a 1AM booty call was obviously horny and would accept pretty much anything he was willing to give you.

[Reggyreg56]

14 minutes ago, Nightowl said:

I think it might have been a combination of him agreeing to your requests on the phone just to get your business, and him assuming that someone looking for a 1AM booty call was obviously horny and would accept pretty much anything he was willing to give you.

Those are excellent points.

[+ purplekow]

Hell, even providers have a bedtime and at 1:30 AM start that means the session went to at least 2 AM and then his ride home.  I am not justifying his leaving, just it is not surprising that, at that hour, someone may want to be over and done.  An escort, as with any transactional business person, should keep his end of the bargain.  We as consumers need to look not only at their bad efforts, but also  what it is we may have done to add to that bad experience.  After all. we know that escort will not be at our next meeting but we will be.   A late call, paying up front, first time encounter with this escort, your relative inexperience with providers all add to this bad experience.  

Next time, you will know better and you will do better and if you select carefully, the experience will be better. 

 Chalk this up to experience and jump right back on the horse when you have the time and the cash.   (By the way, horseback riding goes a long way toward the satisfaction of frottage if your jeans are tight enough.)   I am sure there is a first rate, frat boy, frot boy out there for you.  HiHo Silver Away.  

Edited 10 hours ago by purplekow

[jeezifonly]

If you're feeling a bit ripped-off, that's perfectly normal. Whether or not it becomes a reason to hire-no-more is up to you. In all of human history, sex is pretty consistent in its ability to disappoint at least one participant.

One suggestion (you may have done this with hiring in the past) is to plan ahead. An outcall to a first-time client to a hotel after midnight is more likely to be taken seriously by the provider if you'd reached out earlier in the day, rather than waiting for the late-night craving to start. I made this mistake twice early on before realizing that "Available Now" is mostly advertising lingo, and as such, means only as much as the seller wants it to mean. They also have day-to-day lives, don't forget. 

[Blk225]

I taker responsibility as I am inexperienced and I saw that in this particular town that I was, the provider was available. I called around 11:30pm. The provider answered and asked if he would be available. He informed me that he would have to let me know in an hour if he could come. He then texted me that he would be available. He was supposed to arrive at 1am, but arrived closer to 1:30am. I was trying to be as courteous and understanding as possible. If you are a provider, and if I speak with you upfront, and you are agreeing and willing etc, I would think you would follow through. Instead it very much felt like I was taken advantage of. and what's interesting is that I just feel really stupid and I take responsibility. I should have known better but, it is what it is. I know people have lives and such, but if you are agreeing to provide the service, if you are as respectful as can be, all I can say is that lesson learned. I don't know what the future holds, but honestly I truly at the moment have no desire to hire ever again.

[bimuscle]

Remember “daddy’s reviews” I use to enjoy them. They always seemed pretty legit. I might be wrong.But those were ages ago! 

[Daniel84]

20 hours ago, bimuscle said:

1:30 am, asking money upfront. It’s a recipe for disaster. Plain and simple. It does suck it happened to you. I guess that’s one of the reasons I hate hiring escorts entirely. I would rather hire an escort unknown and fly in for multiple nights. I always seem to be able to get everything at face value when I do that. 

If it’s a client, I have not met before if they’re paying cash, they can leave it on the table. If they’re paying with an app let’s make sure the app works first. I have been burned four times in the last three months of clients not having the money. 
 

If it’s a regular client, they can pay me at the end. I have about 150 or so five star reviews.. even using Mr. Number to weed out the bad clients. It’s very easy to make a new number. 
 

I drove an hour each way to go see a a client. I asked for a deposit as it’s such a drive but he said he would pay me in cash once I arrive. I said before we start just leave the cash on the table. He then tells me that he doesn’t have the money and we have to go to ATM. I take him to the ATM. We get back to his place. I’m expecting to be paid. He said he only has $50. Thank god i didn’t start the service. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Daniel84

[Luv2play]

1 hour ago, Daniel84 said:

If it’s a client, I have not met before if they’re paying cash, they can leave it on the table. If they’re paying with an app let’s make sure the app works first. I have been burned four times in the last three months of clients not having the money. 
 

If it’s a regular client, they can pay me at the end. I have about 150 or so five star reviews.. even using Mr. Number to weed out the bad clients. It’s very easy to make a new number. 
 

I drove an hour each way to go see a a client. I asked for a deposit as it’s such a drive but he said he would pay me in cash once I arrive. I said before we start just leave the cash on the table. He then tells me that he doesn’t have the money and we have to go to ATM. I take him to the ATM. We get back to his place. I’m expecting to be paid. He said he only has $50. Thank god i didn’t start the service. 

There’s a name for the client you described. It’s shyster.