SecretProvider Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, CuriousByNature said: It's the blocker's loss if they block someone who would have become a good client or provider. here is the thing - if you look at pages 100 times and you don't book, you are NOT a client, and you will never become a good client. Advertising research suggests that when someone has viewed a webpage only business 10 times, this is the most likely time that would convert to a sale. SO going over this by ten times the amount shows it is never going to happen. 5 hours ago, Mark_fl said: How would you feel if someone booked, had a good time, and THEN looked 100 times to relive the experience in their mind? I would feel annoyed. How would a restaurant feel if a customer came in and dined once, then come back every day and just looked at the menu. Edited January 5 by SecretProvider Obsidian, mrkileen and pubic_assistance 1 1 1
Mark_fl Posted January 5 Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, SecretProvider said: How would a restaurant feel if a customer came in and dined once, then come back every day and just looked at the menu. If they looked at the menu online, the restaurant wouldn't be bothered in the least, and they might be pleased that they enjoyed it enough that they may return. Especially if it was someone too far away to visit regularly, but would if they came back to town. Simon Suraci 1
SecretProvider Posted January 5 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, Mark_fl said: If they looked at the menu online, the restaurant wouldn't be bothered in the least, and they might be pleased that they enjoyed it enough that they may return. Especially if it was someone too far away to visit regularly, but would if they came back to town. don't ask questions if you don't want an answer. I am telling you: it's annoying. pubic_assistance and mrkileen 1 1
UncutDad Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I have two regular traveling therapists that I dearly love and trust and asked them what the blocking thing is all about. They both told me that they do not block people. But on RentMassuer when a potential client just even looks at a profile, it shows up as an email. So they have to scroll thru the "lookyloos" to answer people that have actual questions. But both of these guys have been pros for so long, they just swat it away and don't pay much attention to it. On the flip side, I will look at profiles of guys I might be interested in and get an auto response. Often I cannot tell if it's a legit "hello" or if it's a "here's my auto response, contact me by text if you want to know more" It's awkward, so I just don't respond. In the age of AI, I want a connection that I know is real. From what my regular massage guys say, they don't reach out to clients that look at their profiles. If someone contacts them with a specific question, they will respond and often are booked in a more organic manner. When AI Robots start massaging us, I will have to tap out. I turned 70 in July. Hopefully, I'll have "gone on to glory" if this is where the world is at. I pray we are decades away from erotic robots doing massage. One malfunction and your johnson could become a mangled cheeto. Yikes! Simon Suraci 1
CuriousByNature Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, SecretProvider said: here is the thing - if you look at pages 100 times and you don't book, you are NOT a client, and you will never become a good client. You make a very good point @SecretProvider I was thinking more about those people who get blocked for only a couple of looks at the page, or those who block a provider when they reach out to the client one or two times. I've never looked at any page anywhere close to 100 times, but I suppose there are people out there who are looky-loos, and blocking those people might make sense. Sometimes when I see on this board that there is a name change or updated pictures for a provider, I'll check their page again. SecretProvider 1
aiseeya Posted January 5 Posted January 5 When I am traveling or plan to visit a city, I often browse through RM multiple times (including checking ads) way in advance (3/4 weeks) to make a short list of potential hire. I would then closer to the travel date (3/4 days) revisit the ads in that short list to make my final decision, amd only then would reach out to the chosen provider. MikeBiDude, pubic_assistance, + Just Chuck and 1 other 3 1
Mark_fl Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, SecretProvider said: don't ask questions if you don't want an answer. I am telling you: it's annoying. I got your answer, just not your logic. I'd like to hear other provider opinions as well, since it seems pretty much everything clients do upsets you from what I've read. guest, SecretProvider, Simon Suraci and 1 other 1 2 1
+ Just Chuck Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Sometimes I just browse RM with no intention of hiring. I log out of the site before I do it so I can browse anonymously. I sometimes do that before I decide if I’m going to visit a place. I sometimes use the search everywhere feature and adjust search terms to look for a specific rare combination of features. CuriousByNature 1
SecretProvider Posted January 5 Posted January 5 2 hours ago, Mark_fl said: since it seems pretty much everything clients do upsets you Wrong. Client's who don't waste my time, and actually HIRE me - we have a great time. There has never been a post that I have complained about clients I have actually spent time with. Once again - this thread is not about CLIENTS. it is about people who view profiles and get blocked. Someone asked why it happens - I reply : because it's annoying. These people are not clients - Client's are people who have hired. If you are doing this - you are not a client, you are not paying, so you can have a FULL REFUND if that makes you feel better. + TravisChambers 1
Mark_fl Posted January 5 Posted January 5 55 minutes ago, SecretProvider said: Wrong. Client's who don't waste my time, and actually HIRE me - we have a great time. There has never been a post that I have complained about clients I have actually spent time with. Once again - this thread is not about CLIENTS. it is about people who view profiles and get blocked. Someone asked why it happens - I reply : because it's annoying. These people are not clients - Client's are people who have hired. If you are doing this - you are not a client, you are not paying, so you can have a FULL REFUND if that makes you feel better. You've also said you blocked those who havdn't given you a perfect rating. That sounds like a complaint about a client who wasn't 100% satisfied to me.
JB_Studio38 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/4/2026 at 9:54 AM, Blnj856 said: I had a provider I was seriously interested in hiring send me a very uncomfortable message, all because I asked another client of his a question about him out of curiosity. I guess the client must of told him what I asked (it was absolutely nothing out of the ordinary, just basic stuff) I’ve heard of this before with me, I don’t feel it’s anything to be upended about. It’s an open platform, people are going to ask around.
+ azdr0710 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 wow, this got serious!..... the answer is to set your privacy setting in the RM dashboard to "they can't see me" or similar wording...look for the field where you can do this jmichaeliii, DMonDude, aiseeya and 4 others 2 3 2
savantsav Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I've been blocked too and it's fine lol. One time I was going somewhere about 3 weeks before so I did a first pass and looked at 6 or so profiles. A week before I went to check them to see if they were still in the location and short listed 3. The week of I went to pull their numbers so I could reach out aaaaaand one of them had already block me. 🤷♂️ It happens. The other type have blocked me after we either had a bad session, or they were fully MIA and never showed up and blocked me to avoid a bad rating. So yeah, it happens and is fine. Unless we've booked you don't owe me any time or attention. MikeBiDude 1
DMonDude Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said: I’ve heard of this before with me, I don’t feel it’s anything to be upended about. It’s an open platform, people are going to ask around. I think you misunderstood what they're saying. They're talking about when Client A asks Client B what the experience with a Provider was like and Client B goes and tells the Provider Client A asked about them. And then the Provider for some reason is mad that Client A asked for intel and sends a negative message to Client A for it. Which is bad and definitely something i would be upended about. Asking around isn't the problem. It's the running to go tell the provider someone asked, and then the provider being mad someone asked around that's the problem. Whoisyourdaddy and BuzzLiteQueer 2
+ TravisChambers Posted January 7 Posted January 7 I’ve never blocked anyone on any platform. It just feels kind of dramatic when I have the option to not engage. If I see someone has viewed my profile dozens of times I may think “that’s a bit obsessive”, but it doesn’t bother me. That said, I have a much higher threshold for tolerating bullshit than the average person. As far as Client A talking to Client B… good! I know the type of experience I provide consistently, and I want people talking—tell everybody! Ichabod, + SidewaysDM, Danny-Darko and 5 others 3 1 4
Mark_fl Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 16 hours ago, TravisChambers said: As far as Client A talking to Client B… good! I know the type of experience I provide consistently, and I want people talking—tell everybody! Great point. Reputable businesses LOVE when their customers talk to other people about their service. Scammers hate it. That's about all you need to know. Edited January 7 by Mark_fl Simon Suraci and + SidewaysDM 1 1
mrkileen Posted January 7 Posted January 7 "Blocked but dont really care", yet you cared enough to create a forum for this? Hmmmm Simon Suraci, MikeBiDude, DMonDude and 1 other 1 1 2
Elite_XL Posted January 7 Posted January 7 I sometimes check to see the profiles that visited me, if it has been multiple times, I will reach out to them. If I dont get an answer back, I will either block or ignore it as they are not serious probably. Obsidian, pubic_assistance and Simon Suraci 1 1 1
Nue2thegame Posted January 7 Posted January 7 22 minutes ago, Elite_XL said: I sometimes check to see the profiles that visited me, if it has been multiple times, I will reach out to them. If I dont get an answer back, I will either block or ignore it as they are not serious probably. I’m not sure that’s a valid conclusion. Some of us do a lot of web surfing in anticipation of an upcoming trip but plans change. Some (not me) feel contact from providers is intrusive and don’t respond until they’re ready to set up a date. Or they might have a number of other reasons to visit your profile. I don’t see the harm in letting them have access. They must see something they like. Blocking them might ultimately result in a missed opportunity. Simon Suraci, + SidewaysDM and pubic_assistance 2 1
Spikeguy Posted January 9 Posted January 9 Someone said they get an email notification every time someone views their profile. If that is the annoying part can it be switched off?
Braziliancutee Posted January 9 Posted January 9 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said: 💯 I’m struggling to understand why providers like @Braziliancutee @Elite_XLand@SecretProvider block prospective clients viewing their profiles. What about prospective clients viewing your ad is a detriment to you? Is there any benefit to you from blocking? If they never book you, that’s a neutral result. If they don’t respond to an unsolicited outreach message, that’s also a neutral result. Why would you need to actively go out of your way to block the client profile? What benefit is it to you to do this? What positive result will such an action gain you? You know they can still view your profile when they sign out of that account, right? And when they tick the box saying don’t track my profile views. For every one of them, you may have a dozen actively ticking that box to hide their similar number and frequency of views. Would you block those tick the box people if you could do so? We don’t always know the connection between the client screen name and the phone number they are texting you from. They may say hi I’m xxx, username: xxxsampleusername on RentMen, but most of the time they don’t. If that lookie-loo client books you two years later when travels overlap, that’s a win! What’s wrong with viewing evidence that you successfully occupied space rent free for an extended time in potential clients’ minds? That’s actually a sign of good marketing. I understand if the prospective client were repeatedly texting you but unserious about booking, canceling last minute, no-showing, sexting, being creepy, stalking, or other problematic behavior… THEN you block them… assuming you are correctly connecting the dots between the caller/texter and profile username …but just the client viewing your profile bothers you? Come on. Show us on the doll where the client touched you. Oh wait, you can’t because you didn’t give him the chance to do so in the first place. We post ads in hopes that prospective clients will view it and consider hiring us. Who is to say what the motivations are of that one client that viewed you a hundred times but never contacts you or responds to your outreach message? We don’t know. Some of them will eventually book. Some of them will only ever have a quiet fantasy wank. Worst case scenario is a neutral result, with the possibility of a positive one at some point. They aren’t demanding or wasting your time. They are merely existing, and happpen to be looking at your ad. That’s neutral to me. By blocking clients for no apparent reason, you risk damaging your reputation. That client sees you blocked them and wonders why. He may think less of himself, or less of you, or both. He definitely won’t hire you since you’ve made it loud and clear that he is unwelcome. But he may share the negative experience with others at some point. This is a net negative result to you, your reputation, your income. You’re shooting yourself in the foot. Because when I check some future client checking my profile a lot times I text him. And if he see my message and don’t answer me I deduce he doesn’t like a lot my profile but why he still seeing my profile a lot times!? It’s weird. Normally when the guy like me he will answer me or will text saying something before hoping to schedule something for the future or wanting to know more about me. But ignore my message and still checking my profile is not nice. Edited January 9 by Braziliancutee MikeBiDude 1
MikeBiDude Posted January 9 Posted January 9 55 minutes ago, Braziliancutee said: But ignore my message and still checking my profile is not nice. How is this “not nice”? + Vegas_Millennial 1
CuriousByNature Posted January 9 Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said: 💯 I’m struggling to understand why providers like @Braziliancutee @Elite_XLand@SecretProvider block prospective clients viewing their profiles. What about prospective clients viewing your ad is a detriment to you? Is there any benefit to you from blocking? If they never book you, that’s a neutral result. If they don’t respond to an unsolicited outreach message, that’s also a neutral result. Why would you need to actively go out of your way to block the client profile? What benefit is it to you to do this? What positive result will such an action gain you? You know they can still view your profile when they sign out of that account, right? And when they tick the box saying don’t track my profile views. For every one of them, you may have a dozen actively ticking that box to hide their similar number and frequency of views. Would you block those tick the box people if you could do so? We don’t always know the connection between the client screen name and the phone number they are texting you from. They may say hi I’m xxx, username: xxxsampleusername on RentMen, but most of the time they don’t. If that lookie-loo client books you two years later when travels overlap, that’s a win! What’s wrong with viewing evidence that you successfully occupied space rent free for an extended time in potential clients’ minds? That’s actually a sign of good marketing. I understand if the prospective client were repeatedly texting you but unserious about booking, canceling last minute, no-showing, sexting, being creepy, stalking, or other problematic behavior… THEN you block them… assuming you are correctly connecting the dots between the caller/texter and profile username …but just the client viewing your profile bothers you? Come on. Show us on the doll where the client touched you. Oh wait, you can’t because you didn’t give him the chance to do so in the first place. We post ads in hopes that prospective clients will view it and consider hiring us. Who is to say what the motivations are of that one client that viewed you a hundred times but never contacts you or responds to your outreach message? We don’t know. Some of them will eventually book. Some of them will only ever have a quiet fantasy wank. Worst case scenario is a neutral result, with the possibility of a positive one at some point. They aren’t demanding or wasting your time. They are merely existing, and happpen to be looking at your ad. That’s neutral to me. By blocking clients for no apparent reason, you risk damaging your reputation. That client sees you blocked them and wonders why. He may think less of himself, or less of you, or both. He definitely won’t hire you since you’ve made it loud and clear that he is unwelcome. But he may share the negative experience with others at some point. This is a net negative result to you, your reputation, your income. You’re shooting yourself in the foot. I'm sure this is part of the reason why you have the awesome reputation that you do. MikeBiDude, + SidewaysDM and + Vegas_Millennial 3
MikeBiDude Posted January 9 Posted January 9 It has been mentioned before by @azdr0710, myself and others, but as a reminder - on RentMen in Settings/Privacy you can have your visits hidden. This is my default. Sometimes, if I’m traveling and visiting a new city I’ll turn it back “on” for a few hours while I peruse providers in that city…but always turn it back off. + azdr0710, DMonDude and + Vegas_Millennial 2 1
Braziliancutee Posted January 10 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said: Ok, I think I understand. You are being proactive by reaching out to clients you see viewing your profile. You are using the profile view alerts as a defacto checklist of people to reach out to. Every one of the people you spend time reaching out to is, in your mind a bit of wasted energy if the client doesn’t respond. You conclude from this one way interaction that the client must not be serious. I encourage you to reevaluate your approach. Let me explain. I read mixed opinions on Company of Men about providers reaching out “cold” to prospective clients viewing their profiles. Some find the messages annoying, invasive, or unwelcome. Others find it a refreshing way to break the ice. Some are not paying attention to their message inboxes at all. A few people need a little encouragement to warm up to contacting you for real. Maybe they are shy, unsure, or less confident. In these cases it helps. But you never know who is on the other side of the screen, their temperament, or why they are there. Others are simply window shopping. If every store clerk ran out of their store onto the street saying the customer glancing into their display should buy something, I see how that would be offputting. Not everyone is ready to buy. They are often comparing products and services before they choose to engage. Maybe they don’t have the funds right now, but shopping gives them a thrill, helps them indulge a fantasy without wasting a store clerk’s time. Maybe after the next paycheck, promotion, or period of savings they will gather the money and decide to splurge on you. Not responding to your message doesn’t mean they are necessarily unserious. It could mean a lot of things like they are not paying attention. Or they hold the view that they are not obligated to respond to every marketing message they receive. A reasonable view, in my opinion. Or they want to hold off engaging until they actually are serious and ready to book an appointment. Lots of people looking at you are not ready to book right then and there. I get clients who have kept an eye on me for years and only much later reach out saying something to this effect. Had I blocked them, I would certainly miss out on their business. And guess what? These clients are even more engaged and excited to see me when they actually do book. They are really good clients. I, like you, engage in some proactive client outreach, but I am a bit more strategic about it. Instead of messaging every client that clicks on my profile, I make selections regarding who I want to spend time reaching out to. For me, I’ve found that it helps to engage with clients on something personal to them. For example, a client listing a specific kink or fantasy or type of guy or scene he is into, I will point this out saying how I would be a good match for xyz. Or that I would enjoy seeing them for some abc reason that genuinely resonates with me. These are the types of messages clients like to respond to. They feel seen, heard, and that you really care. And hopefully you do really care. Most clients don’t fill out their profile information. So I skim over the vast majority of alerts because I can’t really personalize my message to these people. It would land as well as a cold fish to their face. And yet some of them are so polite and considerate that they respond anyway, because they feel obligated, even though they are not ready to book, or only have a slight interest. Then we both feel obliged to keep messaging out of politeness when it’s really a waste of time for both client and provider. Some clients skip this hassle altogether by choosing to not respond. I can’t blame them. I might send more of these proactive messages when I am traveling and see interest from those places I am going. Maybe not every person that views my profile, but more particularly those I notice are repeatedly viewing my profile. It’s a hint that they are considering more seriously whether they want to hire me. Not always, but usually. I might mention I will be in their city during certain dates, thank them for checking me out, and mention I am happy to answer any questions. Many of them never respond, and it doesn’t bother me. Some do respond, however, and it helps break the ice. A few of those people do eventually book. My reason for outreach in this case is to call attention to the limited window for them to book me while I am in their city. That is a good reason to reach out, however impersonal it may be. My point is to be more selective about who you reach out to and why. It will cost you less time and energy narrowing down your list and not feeling the need to compose a message to every profile viewer. Spending less of your energy leads to less resentment, and you have more energy to respond to the “hot” messages you receive, from potentially more serious, ready-to-book-soon clients. The longer you work this business, the easier it is to skim past the alerts and filter them mentally. Some of us turn off the alerts because we don’t want to spend the time or energy sifting through them. I do, but it is work, and not everyone wants to spend the energy. It’s not a binary. People are complicated. They don’t all fall into strict ‘serious’ and ‘unserious’ client categories. And it doesn’t really benefit you to put them into those categories and then block whoever you assume is unserious based on something as benign as a non-response. Does any of this make sense? I hope it helps you. I want my fellow providers to succeed. These are just my opinions and you don’t need to take it as gospel, but it is intended to help guys like you reading this. Clients here have shared a lot of wisdom. I hope you take it to heart, for your own sake, to improve your business. Thanks for the advice!! ☺️
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