+ Just Chuck Posted Friday at 11:27 AM Posted Friday at 11:27 AM In late 2023, I copied down some numbers of ads on Rent.Men for a handful of cities. I was just curious how those numbers looked today. All of them went up by a lot! The evidence suggests that there are a lot more choices on the market today than two years ago. marylander1940, + Act25, SidewaysDM and 5 others 1 1 1 4 1
+ Pensant Posted Friday at 01:10 PM Posted Friday at 01:10 PM I’ve noticed that too. Could it be the economy? The influx of hotties from Colombia and Venezuela? SecretProvider, SidewaysDM, marylander1940 and 1 other 2 1 1
+ Just Chuck Posted Friday at 01:30 PM Author Posted Friday at 01:30 PM 16 minutes ago, Pensant said: I’ve noticed that too. Could it be the economy? The influx of hotties from Colombia and Venezuela? Maybe. There was an even bigger change if I looked at RM ads that listed themselves as Latin. SidewaysDM, + Pensant, + Act25 and 1 other 1 3
+ poolboy48220 Posted Friday at 01:56 PM Posted Friday at 01:56 PM I've noticed that too, Detroit used to have 8-10 listings and it's up to a couple dozen now. Still not many that pique my interest SidewaysDM 1
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Friday at 02:29 PM Posted Friday at 02:29 PM I've noticed more guys in NYC, but it fluctuates a lot here since it's a travel destination. I do wonder if the new tourist rule of having 5 years of social media reviewed to enter the US will impact providers. + DrownedBoy, + Just Chuck, JB_Studio38 and 1 other 1 2 1
+ Just Sayin Posted Friday at 03:11 PM Posted Friday at 03:11 PM it's expensive to live in many of these cities, and I think more guys need to supplement their income to make ends meet; plus, I think it's just harder for young people to get started in life Johnrom, BaronArtz, BonVivant and 3 others 6
NJF Posted Friday at 03:37 PM Posted Friday at 03:37 PM 4 hours ago, Just Chuck said: In late 2023, I copied down some numbers of ads on Rent.Men for a handful of cities. I was just curious how those numbers looked today. All of them went up by a lot! The evidence suggests that there are a lot more choices on the market today than two years ago. The increase is 29 %, and that is moderate. + SirBillybob and + José Soplanucas 1 1
NYXboy Posted Friday at 10:00 PM Posted Friday at 10:00 PM It is 100% an indicator of the economy. Google "the stripper index" a friend of mine told me about it and it has been academically researched and found to be true that sex workers are the first to feel the effects of a recession. A rise in providers would be an indicator of this, which goes hand in hand with the drop in work for providers too, so they are getting hit both ways - less work as well as more competition. The Stripper Index: Decoding the Economic Signals of Sex Work - Business Review at Berkeley BUSINESSREVIEW.STUDENTORG.BERKELEY.EDU The Stripper Index, named for how it relates the revenue generated by strippers’ cash tips to the financial strain of consumers and the current... JB_Studio38, BonVivant, + Just Sayin and 1 other 1 3
+ KensingtonHomo Posted Saturday at 12:13 AM Posted Saturday at 12:13 AM 2 hours ago, NYXboy said: It is 100% an indicator of the economy. Google "the stripper index" a friend of mine told me about it and it has been academically researched and found to be true that sex workers are the first to feel the effects of a recession. A rise in providers would be an indicator of this, which goes hand in hand with the drop in work for providers too, so they are getting hit both ways - less work as well as more competition. The Stripper Index: Decoding the Economic Signals of Sex Work - Business Review at Berkeley BUSINESSREVIEW.STUDENTORG.BERKELEY.EDU The Stripper Index, named for how it relates the revenue generated by strippers’ cash tips to the financial strain of consumers and the current... I wonder if this will impact prices at all.
+ SirBillybob Posted Saturday at 12:53 AM Posted Saturday at 12:53 AM (edited) 9 hours ago, NJF said: The increase is 29 %, and that is moderate. Isn’t all the math off? If one's aim is to compute a percentage of change where increase is the consistent trend it's not taken as an average of the increases because there are multiple pre denominators and variations in absolute numerical changes that are not reconciled by averaging all percentages. Composite increase is 34%. If my grocery bill across a number of stores was $2066 then subsequently $2770 taking the $300 as absolute minimum estimates then the inflation is 34%, not 29%. Any unusual outlier unduly influencing the computation of a general average change for the list of locations is nullified by the composite approach. 34% is the metric whether you divide composite post by pre or divide [post minus pre] by pre. Same arithmetic error with the Latino pool. Maybe I should commission the OP to do my taxes. Edited Saturday at 01:34 AM by SirBillybob NYXboy 1
MRK Posted Saturday at 01:41 AM Posted Saturday at 01:41 AM 13 hours ago, Just Chuck said: In late 2023, I copied down some numbers of ads on Rent.Men for a handful of cities. I was just curious how those numbers looked today. All of them went up by a lot! The evidence suggests that there are a lot more choices on the market today than two years ago. There are dozens of variables you would really have to look at to get a clear picture. Are you comparing the exact same date/time of the year? I'm sure there are seasonal fluctuations. How many of the ads are actually active, are people just posting their ads in more cities at the same time (same number of guys just traveling more), etc. While Covid is still raging worldwide I'm sure there is a difference between 2023 and 2025 in how much people are ignoring it. I'm sure economic and political stuff like ICE is having an impact. ICE may be picking up some people and driving others away from their regular jobs for fear of raids, prison, deportation, etc. Some people might leave the country because of what is happening while others might be afraid to cross the border where many people are being abducted. There's a lot you'd really have to look at before drawing any conclusions.
BeamerBikes Posted Saturday at 02:06 AM Posted Saturday at 02:06 AM This thread is the quality analysis and commentary that keeps me engaged on CoM!
BuffaloKyle Posted Saturday at 04:37 AM Posted Saturday at 04:37 AM The quantity of providers has certainly gone back up since it bottomed out during covid. Although the quality is much lower it seems. I think when the economy is bad you have more guys on there looking to scam as well. + JamesB, JB_Studio38, SidewaysDM and 2 others 5
marylander1940 Posted Saturday at 04:39 AM Posted Saturday at 04:39 AM 15 hours ago, Pensant said: I’ve noticed that too. Could it be the economy? The influx of hotties from Colombia and Venezuela? Exactly! Some of this new guys simply want to try escorting and only do a career out of it if they truly like it and get plenty of clients but if given the choice some will go back to a regular job SidewaysDM 1
JB_Studio38 Posted Saturday at 07:37 AM Posted Saturday at 07:37 AM (edited) 7 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said: I wonder if this will impact prices at all. Maybe, maybe not. For better or worse. I have heard the stories about $500+/hr quotes etc. Nowadays, it’s not the same as before where desperate guys were getting into the industry: people are coming on as “content creator/social media influencer” exclusives, looking to tap into the allure of rich overnight come ups. Failing to realize, lots of the average guys looking for m4m are cheap as fuck and really don’t want to pay: I even had an aspiring friend send me a video of a guy on insta, claiming to have made like $1,000 just for going to a guy’s hotel and cursing him out for a few minutes. And newcomers actually THINK; that’s how you “make it” in the biz 🤦🏽♂️ Lot of people trying to be tik tok and insta sex workers, unfortunately all it’s doing is making it more mainstream and less appealing to clients. It’s not necessarily good news by any means. Especially in a country that hasn’t made the progress to define it as a legitimate enterprise. Edited Saturday at 07:51 AM by JB_Studio38 SidewaysDM 1
jackcali Posted Saturday at 01:39 PM Posted Saturday at 01:39 PM 5 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said: I even had an aspiring friend send me a video of a guy on insta, claiming to have made like $1,000 just for going to a guy’s hotel and cursing him out for a few minutes. And newcomers actually THINK; that’s how you “make it” in the biz 🤦🏽♂️ L I think this is another effect of social media. In the past, if a provider was lucky enough to find a client paying $1,000 for a few minutes of cursing, he'd devote a lot of time to thinking about how to make him a regular and/or expand the arrangement. (How much for an hour of cursing?) Now, too many of the post it on social media. They think they're taking a victory lap and encouraging more clients with the same interest/fetish, but I'm sure that's a very small market and not a way to build an escort business. After all, I get cursed at for a few minutes most days at the office. + Pensant, + SirBillybob and SidewaysDM 3
+ SirBillybob Posted Saturday at 02:12 PM Posted Saturday at 02:12 PM (edited) 6 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said: Maybe, maybe not. For better or worse. I have heard the stories about $500+/hr quotes etc. Nowadays, it’s not the same as before where desperate guys were getting into the industry: people are coming on as “content creator/social media influencer” exclusives, looking to tap into the allure of rich overnight come ups. Failing to realize, lots of the average guys looking for m4m are cheap as fuck and really don’t want to pay: I even had an aspiring friend send me a video of a guy on insta, claiming to have made like $1,000 just for going to a guy’s hotel and cursing him out for a few minutes. And newcomers actually THINK; that’s how you “make it” in the biz 🤦🏽♂️ Lot of people trying to be tik tok and insta sex workers, unfortunately all it’s doing is making it more mainstream and less appealing to clients. It’s not necessarily good news by any means. Especially in a country that hasn’t made the progress to define it as a legitimate enterprise. If he’s hot I’d consider by proxy a dollar in an available swear jar for each ‘fiddle-dee-dee”, especially if he’s adorably fumbling over a stuck zipper. Edited Saturday at 02:15 PM by SirBillybob SidewaysDM 1
DMonDude Posted Saturday at 08:53 PM Posted Saturday at 08:53 PM On 12/12/2025 at 6:29 AM, KensingtonHomo said: I've noticed more guys in NYC, but it fluctuates a lot here since it's a travel destination. I do wonder if the new tourist rule of having 5 years of social media reviewed to enter the US will impact providers. Yeah i think that rule will have a huge impact. There's more details to that 5 years of social media history thing too. It's not just social media history. They're also proposing requiring "the gathering of an applicant's telephone numbers and email addresses used over the last five and 10 years respectively" and similar information about their immediate family members... It's in a 60 day public comment period, but if it's enacted as originally proposed it will have a devastating impact on tourism (and thus providers who may want to come to the US from elsewhere). https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo + KensingtonHomo 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM Posted Saturday at 09:27 PM 23 hours ago, NYXboy said: It is 100% an indicator of the economy. Google "the stripper index" a friend of mine told me about it and it has been academically researched and found to be true that sex workers are the first to feel the effects of a recession. A rise in providers would be an indicator of this, which goes hand in hand with the drop in work for providers too, so they are getting hit both ways - less work as well as more competition. The Stripper Index: Decoding the Economic Signals of Sex Work - Business Review at Berkeley BUSINESSREVIEW.STUDENTORG.BERKELEY.EDU The Stripper Index, named for how it relates the revenue generated by strippers’ cash tips to the financial strain of consumers and the current... I always thought this intuitively, that sex workers were the canary in the coal mine for the American economy. Maybe because it's an instance of a completely unregulated, technically illegal, pure market, and because it allows unskilled workers a chance to learn and scale up (the ones that don't learn last a month). I wonder if I can write off some sessions as financial research
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