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The key is that full sex should not be expected by the hirer when hiring a sensual or erotic masseur. As for what’s included in the massage as ‘standard’ you should ask the masseur. I include things like oral and kissing as standard but many don’t so it’s incumbent on the hirer to ask. 

For many clients though the interest in hiring a sensual or erotic masseur (apart from receiving a great massage) is the possibility and unknown about what might happen. That’s exciting and adds a frisson to the session. I do have sex with some clients because that’s just how the session developed. But as soon as a client wants the guarantee of full sex when they book the session then I am going to tell them that the rate is different (if I’m willing to do it atall). Clients expecting/demanding full sex for the price of a massage are unrealistic and will be disappointed. 
 

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3 hours ago, RugbyBen said:

I would never expect it but it definitely happens, particularly oral.

I have a regular therapeutic masseur who fucked me the first time I saw him and every time since. I wasn't expecting it and he made all the running. 

Same here!

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10 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

I'm a fit, attractive middle-aged guy who looks younger (late 30s). I have frequently had masseurs do everything from kiss me, to rim me, to ask to fuck me. I never expect those things but I've begun asking what an "erotic/sensual massage" means to them because the definition seems to vary wildly from provider to provider. And, while it's subjective, I've also noticed that there's no rhyme or reason to how attractive the provider is. Providers like @proudwhore can't police what others are offering, but I'm not sure all the fault lies with clients. If guys are giving some clients full service for $200, they're undercutting their competition. 

Ditto. I should note, though, that the masseurs who made a move on me were older guy-next-door types in my age range, not younger types.

One tried to go anal while I was on my stomach, and I wouldn't let him. The other got on top of me while I was lying on my back and started kissing me, and I let him (he charged a token fee afterwards).

Less a porn movie than a Grindr hookup between normal-looking guys.

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8 hours ago, soloyo215 said:

Well, in my experience, there are times when fantasy does match reality. I have experienced an entire range of encounters with different masseurs, ranging from a simple (and great, or terrible) massage, to a massage that feels sensual but not sexual, to happy endings (meaning getting a handy jay), to oral, to anal, to almost braking the massage table having sex in all kinds of sexual positions.

 In my experience, and let me say it again, IN MY EXPERIENCE, the difference is not about sex happening during or after a massage session; it's about the masseur being the one who calls the shotS.

As a masseur, you do call the shots, you state and decide how far you will go, and your client should respect your boundaries, but there's no rule about it, in my experience.

This last point resonates with me. I think that there are many escorts masquerading as masseurs who wait to meet the client before deciding on what to offer. It gives them a deserved degree of control over the proceedings. I’m often surprised and pleased when the additional menu is presented but it may also reflect my choice for dates. 

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