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Is it really so difficult for new members to read through posts? There are recommendations on every page. @Tarte Gogo and @urbanfetish just left great info less than a dozen posts ago.

OP, I'm going to give my speculation in answer to your question. I know that you were not trying to bring up racism - just asking about habits and patterns. It's only my experience and many of you might disagree, but twenty or thirty years ago there was a perception that gay Asian men in NYC were clingy and pushy. There were far fewer Asian men in town and many were living in fairly closed communities. Homosexuality was so shameful in most Asian cultures that it seemed like the only gay Asian men you encountered were men who could never pass as straight. Stereotypes about being small of frame and penis were reinforced by my experiences. Communication could be difficult as the language barrier was still quite strong. Now NYC has a large population of Asian students and graduates thanks to NYU and other educational institutions. Due to improved nutrition, Asians are rapidly gaining size in all areas. And of course the internet made communications much easier. It's no longer unusual to meet a straight appearing, tall, well-hung Asian and for better or worse, those are qualities a lot of gay men find attractive.. However, assumptions take time to fade and I think the idea of Asians as "other" is still around for some. As for racism and fetishization - these are just words that people use to judge and control the behavior of others. People should associate with, and have consensual sex with whomever they want. for whatever reason they want. Excluding any group means missing out on a lot, but that's a choice.

He said you shoved your face into his bottom.

If you are into the spa experience, Andy at WMen and Alvin at Energy seem open to all kinds of bodywork. YMMV, but they are both excellent masseurs who can be very receptive.

I was lucky enough to see him as Judy Garland one New Year's Eve in Boston. He called himself an illusionist and his night club act was very well done. Camp, of course, but also serious and thoughtful. It was fun to see "Judy" perform I'm Still Here. Jim Bailey, Charles Busch, CoCo Peru, Varla Jean Merman, La Gran Scena. A great period in drag.

You are a true romantic @Callas . Don't lose that. Some people are more likely to catch feelings than others, but we all do it eventually. I've had crushes on masseurs, dated masseurs, and had purely physical experiences with masseurs. It's all part of the messy joy of human connection. Be nice to yourself and accept that feelings are an important part of what gives you pleasure. Your emotions will pass so be patient.

That's a long time ago! I've had some great experiences, met some great people, and spent a great deal of money! Looking forward to continuing the adventure!

I'm sorry to find you all still swooning over two male "hockey players" who behave like women. Men with womanly hairless asses talking to each other like women imagine gay men talk. Gay sex depicted without having to see those aggressive, problematic penises. I've never heard or seen gay men relate to each other like these two - so much drama! And not the kind I like in film or television. Gay men - go on a date, get a massage, hire an escort. Have an actual experience with an actual man. Don't give money and attention to this dopey series.

Do you have any idea how long ago that was? I can't remember. Was it more than 10 years ago?

Anyone remember a really run down place in the basement on 22nd Street? It was just off Seventh Ave. A long time ago.

There was also a men's spa on 8th street, just west of 6th Ave.

Yes, I too met August at Babylon. He left and went out on his own for a while before he landed at 27. i remember the place on 57th Street! Up a tall flight of stairs.

I walked by an old spa location today and started thinking about places that I visited pre-Covid. I can't remember most of their names, but I'm pretty sure they existed. Any Men's spa historians out there? There were two Yu Ping locations (6th and 14th, 6th and 29th). Babylon on 6th and 39th. A tiny place on 25th off 6th? Maybe it was called Moon Boy? There were two places on one block on Lex around 28th? A place just off Park Ave, maybe on 38th? I think I remember a spa on Allen St. but a couple of blocks farther south than Yeah Man

That's true. So do a lot of masseurs. @lienahtan might even get a private message from his missing masseur. He might be out there somewhere!

I agree with others about Google translate. At many spas, the masseurs share the responsibility of answering the phone and text messages. It's not unusual to get a surprise text from a masseur providing their own number and inviting you to book with them directly in the future. If this doesn't happen after a couple of sessions, ask if you can give them your number in case they move to a different spa. Always in the room - not at reception.