Clients hiring a masseur expecting anal and oral sex

[+ Jamie21]

The key is that full sex should not be expected by the hirer when hiring a sensual or erotic masseur. As for what’s included in the massage as ‘standard’ you should ask the masseur. I include things like oral and kissing as standard but many don’t so it’s incumbent on the hirer to ask. 

For many clients though the interest in hiring a sensual or erotic masseur (apart from receiving a great massage) is the possibility and unknown about what might happen. That’s exciting and adds a frisson to the session. I do have sex with some clients because that’s just how the session developed. But as soon as a client wants the guarantee of full sex when they book the session then I am going to tell them that the rate is different (if I’m willing to do it atall). Clients expecting/demanding full sex for the price of a massage are unrealistic and will be disappointed. 
 

[jmichaeliii]

3 hours ago, RugbyBen said:

I would never expect it but it definitely happens, particularly oral.

I have a regular therapeutic masseur who fucked me the first time I saw him and every time since. I wasn't expecting it and he made all the running. 

Same here!

[+ DrownedBoy]

10 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

I'm a fit, attractive middle-aged guy who looks younger (late 30s). I have frequently had masseurs do everything from kiss me, to rim me, to ask to fuck me. I never expect those things but I've begun asking what an "erotic/sensual massage" means to them because the definition seems to vary wildly from provider to provider. And, while it's subjective, I've also noticed that there's no rhyme or reason to how attractive the provider is. Providers like @proudwhore can't police what others are offering, but I'm not sure all the fault lies with clients. If guys are giving some clients full service for $200, they're undercutting their competition. 

Ditto. I should note, though, that the masseurs who made a move on me were older guy-next-door types in my age range, not younger types.

One tried to go anal while I was on my stomach, and I wouldn't let him. The other got on top of me while I was lying on my back and started kissing me, and I let him (he charged a token fee afterwards).

Less a porn movie than a Grindr hookup between normal-looking guys.

[Nue2thegame]

8 hours ago, soloyo215 said:

Well, in my experience, there are times when fantasy does match reality. I have experienced an entire range of encounters with different masseurs, ranging from a simple (and great, or terrible) massage, to a massage that feels sensual but not sexual, to happy endings (meaning getting a handy jay), to oral, to anal, to almost braking the massage table having sex in all kinds of sexual positions.

 In my experience, and let me say it again, IN MY EXPERIENCE, the difference is not about sex happening during or after a massage session; it's about the masseur being the one who calls the shotS.

As a masseur, you do call the shots, you state and decide how far you will go, and your client should respect your boundaries, but there's no rule about it, in my experience.

This last point resonates with me. I think that there are many escorts masquerading as masseurs who wait to meet the client before deciding on what to offer. It gives them a deserved degree of control over the proceedings. I’m often surprised and pleased when the additional menu is presented but it may also reflect my choice for dates. 

[LaSanta]

The potential client messaged me on Rentmen for all this. He wanted to perform oral and rimming (and figering if I was okay).  I told him that he needed an escort and not a masseur and still he kept insisting that other masseurs included that service for the price of about 170. This is in D. C. I had to block him. 

[LaSanta]

On 11/26/2025 at 9:02 PM, Nue2thegame said:

This last point resonates with me. I think that there are many escorts masquerading as masseurs who wait to meet the client before deciding on what to offer. It gives them a deserved degree of control over the proceedings. I’m often surprised and pleased when the additional menu is presented but it may also reflect my choice for dates. 

Yes. But will they perform sex for the price of a masseur? Or do they negotiate before the act? You have to really love sex in order to have sex every time you are hired as a masseur. 

[Nue2thegame]

1 hour ago, ProudWhore said:

Yes. But will they perform sex for the price of a masseur? Or do they negotiate before the act? You have to really love sex in order to have sex every time you are hired as a masseur. 

Some do, most don’t. If both are inclined for something more, it’s only fair to pay for the additional services. Some really do seem to love sex, even though we all know it’s still really a job.  Many of us are happy to help foster the illusion. 
In your case, I support your position but can’t help but wonder if you’re giving mixed signals. In this case, you were only offering services as a masseur but your handle here is “ProudWhore”. 

[Nue2thegame]

It is funny and I love your avatar but both project a very different impression than the one that I’ve gleaned from your posts. We’re all keyboard warriors but there are some unintended consequences. 

[Manhattan]

On 11/29/2025 at 6:33 PM, ProudWhore said:

The potential client messaged me on Rentmen for all this. He wanted to perform oral and rimming (and figering if I was okay).  I told him that he needed an escort and not a masseur and still he kept insisting that other masseurs included that service for the price of about 170. This is in D. C. I had to block him. 

Maybe part of the confusion is that you posted your services on rentmen instead of rentmasseur. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 11/26/2025 at 7:51 AM, Alchemy said:

When someone hires for an erotic massage, what is the basic service that's expected?

Nudity.  Glute work.  Sphincter massage.

If a penis gets inserted, then only "Just the tip".  Anything past the tip is escort territory.

Edited December 6 by Vegas_Millennial

[Pepperpot]

I don’t hire escorts anymore because the prices have become insane. Average guys charging ridiculous prices. Since I’m not into anal I just hire guys that advertise for sensual massage. If they have private pics where they are nude, then I take a shot that they may be willing to play.  I have about 3 guys that I go to in NYC. Wish there were a few more. But I refuse to pay exorbitant prices for average guys that I can get on my own. 

 

 

[Nightowl]

On 12/6/2025 at 12:36 AM, Vegas_Millennial said:

If a penis gets inserted, then only "Just the tip".  Anything past the tip is escort territory.

Depends on the masseur and probably the market.  I’ve taken in the whole magilla a number of times from guys I’ve hired on RMass and even MF, none of whom advertised on RM as escorts.  I never expect it though.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

24 minutes ago, Nightowl said:

On 12/5/2025 at 9:36 PM, Vegas_Millennial said:

If a penis gets inserted, then only "Just the tip".  Anything past the tip is escort territory.

Depends on the masseur and probably the market.  I’ve taken in the whole magilla a number of times from guys I’ve hired on RMass and even MF, none of whom advertised on RM as escorts.  I never expect it though.

Yes, sometimes the masseur trips and the entire penis goes in accidentally.  It's happened to me a few hundred times.

Edited December 7 by Vegas_Millennial
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[+ newatthis]

On 11/29/2025 at 5:35 PM, ProudWhore said:

You have to really love sex in order to have sex every time you are hired as a masseur. 

Not "every time", but whenever *you* feel like it.  That's why you advertise as a masseur and not as an escort.  From reading the responses here, you see that it's silly to imagine you can control your clients' expectations.  

[DunwoodyGuy]

On 11/29/2025 at 10:11 PM, ProudWhore said:

The username is mere sarcasm. I in fact don't often do anal. But now that you tell me, good advice. I thought "ProudWhore" was a very funny name. 

Yeah, it's not.

[LaSanta]

19 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

Yeah, it's not.

I will change it... 

 

[DunwoodyGuy]

On 12/13/2025 at 5:41 AM, LaSanta said:

I will change it... 

 

This one's even worse.

[Nue2thegame]

1 hour ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

This one's even worse.

Agree and new avatar is likely to create ED in potential clientele. 

[Peter Eater]

On 12/12/2025 at 7:27 AM, DunwoodyGuy said:

Yeah, it's not.

Yeah, it is.

[Peter Eater]

7 minutes ago, Nue2thegame said:

Agree and new avatar is likely to create ED in potential clientele. 

But not more than, say, a cartoon cock would create ED.

[TantricMD]

My expectations are directly correlated to the rate the masseur is offering. There was a time not too long ago when the differences in masseur and escort rates were 100-200 or more. These pre covid rates (150-200) made it easy to limit my expectation to a therapeutic, sensual, or sometimes erotic massage in eager anticipation that there COULD (not guaranteed) be a connection to take things further if the chemistry was there for both.

These days, I am considered cheap for wanting a massage (nude, MT, HE, no sex) for 150. 

A lot of escorts have duplicated their ads on RMasseur but have not adjusted their rates to reflect a difference in services. If the same rates (250-500) apply to both massage and full service they can't be upset when I'm expecting all the extras. Isn't this why they put themselves on multiple ads at the full service rate?  They expect that the client will pay the higher rate, and the client should expect to get the full services even if responding to a massage ad. 

There are still several pros that have different competitive and affordable rates for massage vs. full service. It's all about communication to be sure all expectations are clear and met. I ask lots of questions and sometimes get labeled as a time waster. I don't agree when I haven't altered anyone's schedule just to get clarity on what the session includes. Some of the newer pros are coming out the gate with escort rates and get really upset that clients aren't lining up around the block to book an implied rub and tug if they think I'm attractive just because they posted on a massage site.

Make your rates make sense and the clients expectations will probably follow. 

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

30 minutes ago, TantricMD said:

...Some of the newer pros are coming out the gate with escort rates and get really upset that clients aren't lining up around the block to book an implied rub and tug if they think I'm attractive just because they posted on a massage site.

Make your rates make sense and the clients expectations will probably follow. 

Agree 💯 👍 

[TantricMD]

On 11/26/2025 at 1:06 AM, Aaron 90 said:

If you expect extras pay accordingly.  Simple. 

Same works just as simply in reverse. If you expect me to pay 250+ for a massage, then act accordingly and make sure you massage "My neck, my throat, my back, my p****, and my...." 😌

[+ KensingtonHomo]

2 hours ago, TantricMD said:

A lot of escorts have duplicated their ads on RMasseur but have not adjusted their rates to reflect a difference in services. If the same rates (250-500) apply to both massage and full service they can't be upset when I'm expecting all the extras. Isn't this why they put themselves on multiple ads at the full service rate?  They expect that the client will pay the higher rate, and the client should expect to get the full services even if responding to a massage ad. 

Yes. I see this a lot in NYC. There are lots of younger guys who have this approach. 

OTOH, there is a really great masseur/escort who I saw the other day. Previously, I'd hired him as an escort but he is an LMT. He's a top as an escort so hiring him with my husband was not entirely compatible. But he's a great guy, so I was looking for a massage and I reached out. He has his prices listed very clearly. When I arrived, we discussed the massage. He said for an erotic massage, nudity, mutual touch was on the menu but if I wanted oral, etc, he "expected a nice tip." That was very reasonable to me. The massage was great and he did get a nice tip. But it was not "full service."