A hire goes over the deep end - and tries to take you along

[NipLuvr212]

I anticipate push back already - "it's just a business thing..." etc., etc., but I'm sorry - when you have certain levels of intimacy with another human being, it goes beyond that

So: escort, met once, had a good time, etc, etc. (Not revealing his identity here at this point - perhaps too sensitive an issue and do not want to be mean)

Repeated requests for money, some of which I responded to, which I should have known better as he flaked on my several times afterwards

Now texsts telling me he is starving on the streets, which I responded to which expressions of concern and empathy

Now textst blaming me for his situation, etc., etc.

Am I angry? Yes... Am I insuled? Yes?... Do I feel bad for the guy? Doubles YES

Am I being manipulated? Should I be doing more? How would you respond is a fellow human, clearly going through a bad time, reached out to you this way?

Thanks.

[BigK]

If you feel like helping them out, make him work for it.

[Nightowl]

 Not to be harsh but if you already paid him for his services you owe him nothing. You could point him toward social services in your area but it’s up to him to pursue them.

[NipLuvr212]

1 minute ago, Nightowl said:

 Not to be harsh but if you already paid him for his services you owe him nothing. You could point him toward social services in your area but it’s up to him to pursue them.

Not harsh at all.

I agree that pratically speaking I "owe" him nothing - and I agree with your prescribing help for him as well... just someting touched a deeply held sense of "right"

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, NipLuvr212 said:

I anticipate push back already - "it's just a business thing..." etc., etc., but I'm sorry - when you have certain levels of intimacy with another human being, it goes beyond that

So: escort, met once, had a good time, etc, etc. (Not revealing his identity here at this point - perhaps too sensitive an issue and do not want to be mean)

Repeated requests for money, some of which I responded to, which I should have known better as he flaked on my several times afterwards

Now texsts telling me he is starving on the streets, which I responded to which expressions of concern and empathy

Now textst blaming me for his situation, etc., etc.

Am I angry? Yes... Am I insuled? Yes?... Do I feel bad for the guy? Doubles YES

Am I being manipulated? Should I be doing more? How would you respond is a fellow human, clearly going through a bad time, reached out to you this way?

Thanks.

Pay as you go ALWAYS!

If he needs money, just hire him and pay him after, don't lend, prepay, etc., just hire him!

 

[NipLuvr212]

Just now, marylander1940 said:

Pay as you go ALWAYS!

If he needs money, just hire him and pay him after, don't lend, prepay, etc., just hire him!

 

100% agree with you and were I perfect I would always do so.... call me fallible, i guess

[wsc]

I'm curious about him blaming you for his situation. Did you do or say anything that might have made him think you were going to be a couple, or you his providential sugar daddy? 

How old is? Does he have an education? A trade? Skills (other than those obvious to the circumstance)?

If you feed a stray cat, you'll see it every day. Are you ready for "Here kitty, kitty, kitty?

[samhexum]

55 minutes ago, wsc said:

Are you ready for "Here kitty, kitty, kitty?

Be careful...  bringing up pussy gets you perilously close to an off-topic post.

[NipLuvr212]

2 hours ago, wsc said:

I'm curious about him blaming you for his situation. Did you do or say anything that might have made him think you were going to be a couple, or you his providential sugar daddy? 

How old is? Does he have an education? A trade? Skills (other than those obvious to the circumstance)?

If you feed a stray cat, you'll see it every day. Are you ready for "Here kitty, kitty, kitty?

Your points are well-taken: the only reason that he could have thought I would "be there" for him is that I did provide financial situation during (yet another) emergency that he had (I see a pattern here, Hmmmm.)

His RM age is I think 27 - I believe he is following a vocational ed program but cannot be sure - and truth be told, I think this is siituation may be somewhat complicated by some poor choices he makes in his life - so i guess you are helping me answer my own questons and assuage my oown guilt.

Thanks for that!

[Pepper Young]

While it sounds like he's in dire straits, it also sounds like a scam. All you owe him at this point is tea and sympathy. If he persists, block his number. 

[NJF]

19 hours ago, NipLuvr212 said:

I anticipate push back already - "it's just a business thing..." etc., etc., but I'm sorry - when you have certain levels of intimacy with another human being, it goes beyond that

So: escort, met once, had a good time, etc, etc. (Not revealing his identity here at this point - perhaps too sensitive an issue and do not want to be mean)

Repeated requests for money, some of which I responded to, which I should have known better as he flaked on my several times afterwards

Now texsts telling me he is starving on the streets, which I responded to which expressions of concern and empathy

Now textst blaming me for his situation, etc., etc.

Am I angry? Yes... Am I insuled? Yes?... Do I feel bad for the guy? Doubles YES

Am I being manipulated? Should I be doing more? How would you respond is a fellow human, clearly going through a bad time, reached out to you this way?

Thanks.

Be careful with this one. It may be lies or high tales to scam money from you. 

[NipLuvr212]

2 hours ago, Pepper Young said:

While it sounds like he's in dire straits, it also sounds like a scam. All you owe him at this point is tea and sympathy. If he persists, block his number. 

guess the two are not mutually exclusive too.... and thanks

[ShortCutie7]

If I were in a similar position to @NipLuvr212 and had money to spare, I would offer the escort money to do tasks/chores/etc.  I would NOT hire an escort who is currently living in the streets to spend time with him, but would hire him to go grocery shopping for me, clean my home (with supervision), etc.

[Whoisyourdaddy]

I can understand your pain, NipLuvr212. I've been down this road too many times.

I've been nice to my own detriment. Thankfully, I've gotten more jaded and guarded with age.

Nowadays, I avoid providers in dire straits by following the reviews on here and RM. This site and RM have kept me out of a lot of trouble.

[+ PhileasFogg]

At the beginning of the year, I had one provider in New Orleans (who has traveled to Vegas often) hustle me with the “I’m about to be evicted”,” I need a tire for my car to come visit you” stories.   I think people believe he’s credible because he was featured on a podcast a year or two ago and therefore “good at what he does”

It’s a shame because when he’s “on” he’s “ON”   But when his demons are in control, it’s Jekyll and Hyde

Yes, I assisted

Yes, I regret it

Yes, while I would rather be criticized for the mistakes I make rooted in goodness rather than malevolence, I will never get snookered again by him or others   

My starting criteria for 2026 (as noted in another post) are maturity, education, and no drugs.  While I avoid judging people and rarely “write them off,”  I don’t have to get pulled into the cesspool with them.

 

[Becket]

Don't be so hard on yourself. Been there, done that myself. But you've done more than enough. He is not your burden to bear. 

[BSR]

I still remember this lesson from the Boy Scout Lifesaving merit badge:  if a person is flailing in the water, keep your distance until they tire out.  A drowning person is so desperate and irrational that they will jump on top of you to push themselves out of the water, unintentionally drowning you in the process.

If you really want to help an escort, do so from a safe distance so that both of you don’t end up drowning.  

[jusmeinbr]

I have only one past experience to compare, and I'm going to give the "cliff notes" version, but if anybody wants the "filler" part that I'm leaving off, I'll be happy to provide:

Around 2006, a student at the university in the city where I reside took out an ad, which I believe was on the old Men4RentNow.  I replied the same way I've been replying to ads in the 21 years I've been hiring, which is to state the only three activities which "do it" for me:  being spanked (probably the biggest one), worshipping the provider's feet, and having my face sat upon.

It was obvious that he was new (and I'd only been hiring a couple of years at that time), so he asked if we could first meet at a restaurant to feel one another out.  I obliged.

During the meal, he harped on how disheartened he was that he could not pay his tuition for the upcoming semester and would therefore risk all of the hard work he'd put in pursuing his accounting degree and becoming a CPA.  Being an inactive CPA myself, we discussed (not to bore anyone) principles which I knew he should be learning based on the courses he told me he'd just taken.  Our discussion was highly, highly specific on accounting issues, and it was VERY obvious that he was a legitimate accounting student and was retaining what he'd learned.

When I returned home, I made a spontaneous decision to send him an email (iPhones had not yet even come out -- hence no texts) proposing that, if he was interested, I could pay his tuition as a prepayment for 13 meetings (tuition was $2,600 and back then $200 was the "going" rate).  I told him that we could meet at a restaurant the next day and I would provide the check.  He was ESTATIC!!  I KNEW as I handed the check over (payee was blank) that I had essentially no recourse if he never met with me, but I had compassion for him because he'd told me about having a tough time growing up with a father who had abandoned the family.

A couple of weeks after I supplied the check, it became obvious that he did not want to hold his end of the bargain (and clearly wasn't going to) and I knew there was nothing I could do.

<-------At this point is where I'm leaving a TON of material out, but I can supplement if anyone is interested.------->

I resolved myself that I'd just helped a young man out and let it go.  About five years later, I Googled his name, and I discovered a presentation he was making to a water system's Board of Directors (it was in the minutes).  He'd graduated, gotten his CPA license, and I actually was very, very happy for him notwithstanding the loss of funds on my end.

So, as far as I'm concerned, that was a "happy ending," and, being honest, I've thought about previously posting the whole episode to this forum, but I thought I'd be the laughing stock of the whole forum given that so many clients strenuously object to even providing a much smaller deposit for a single meeting (and I fully concur now).  Seeing so many others step up on this post, however, has caused me to be willing to publish my one and only similar situation.

From reading the initial post on this thread, I don't think the situation described has even the remotest possibility of having a "happy ending," so I have to agree with the sentiments expressed by others that you just have to let it go. 

Edited Tuesday at 11:15 AM by jusmeinbr
typo

[NipLuvr212]

33 minutes ago, jusmeinbr said:

I have only one past experience to compare, and I'm going to give the "cliff notes" version, but if anybody wants the "filler" part that I'm leaving off, I'll be happy to provide:

Around 2006, a student at the university in the city where I reside took out an ad, which I believe was on the old Men4RentNow.  I replied the same way I've been replying to ads in the 21 years I've been hiring, which is to state the only three activities which "do it" for me:  being spanked (probably the biggest one), worshipping the provider's feet, and having my face sat upon.

It was obvious that he was new (and I'd only been hiring a couple of years at that time), so he asked if we could first meet at a restaurant to feel one another out.  I obliged.

During the meal, he harped on how disheartened he was that he could not pay his tuition for the upcoming semester and would therefore risk all of the hard work he'd put in pursuing his accounting degree and becoming a CPA.  Being an inactive CPA myself, we discussed (not to bore anyone) principles which I knew he should be learning based on the courses he told me he'd just taken.  Our discussion was highly, highly specific on accounting issues, and it was VERY obvious he was a legitime accounting student and was retaining what he'd learned.

When I returned home, I made a spontaneous decision to send him an email (iPhones had not yet even come out -- hence no texts) proposing that, if he was interested, I could pay his tuition as a prepayment for 13 meetings (tuition was $2,600 and back then $200 was the "going" rate).  I told him that we could meet at a restaurant the next day and I would provide the check.  He was ESTATIC!!  I KNEW as I handed the check over (payee was blank) that I had essentially no recourse if he never met with me, but I had compassion for him because he'd told me about having a tough time growing up with a father who had abandoned the family.

A couple of weeks after I supplied the check, it became obvious that he did not want to hold his end of the bargain (and clearly wasn't going to) and I knew there was nothing I could do.

<-------At this point is where I'm leaving a TON of material out, but I can supplement if anyone is interested.------->

I resolved myself that I'd just helped a young man out and let it go.  About five years later, I Googled his name, and I discovered a presentation he was making to a water system's Board of Directors (it was in the minutes).  He'd graduated, gotten his CPA license, and I actually was very, very happy for him notwithstanding the loss of funds on my end.

So, as far as I'm concerned, that was a "happy ending," and, being honest, I've thought about previously posting the whole episode to this forum, but I thought I'd be the laughing stock of the whole forum given that so many clients strenuously object to even providing a much smaller deposit for a single meeting (and I fully concur now).  Seeing so many others step up on this post, however, has caused me to be willing to publish my one and only similar situation.

From reading the initial post on this thread, I don't think the situation described has even the remotest possibility of having a "happy ending," so I have to agree with the sentiments expressed by others that you just have to let it go. 

First and most importantly, thank you for sharing and revealing how you handled not only the situation, but also how you handled your handling of the situation.

Much to be learned here, even though your experience does not mirror mine. (It does not need to in order for me to learn from you.)

I have taken a step back and more closely analyzed the dyamic between my friend and me. We do not live in the same city. He is not a good communmicator unless he needs something. He has shown very little ability to process what is going on with him.

I have blocked him.

[BSR]

On 10/27/2025 at 9:11 PM, jusmeinbr said:

I have only one past experience to compare, and I'm going to give the "cliff notes" version, but if anybody wants the "filler" part that I'm leaving off, I'll be happy to provide:

Around 2006, a student at the university in the city where I reside took out an ad, which I believe was on the old Men4RentNow.  I replied the same way I've been replying to ads in the 21 years I've been hiring, which is to state the only three activities which "do it" for me:  being spanked (probably the biggest one), worshipping the provider's feet, and having my face sat upon.

It was obvious that he was new (and I'd only been hiring a couple of years at that time), so he asked if we could first meet at a restaurant to feel one another out.  I obliged.

During the meal, he harped on how disheartened he was that he could not pay his tuition for the upcoming semester and would therefore risk all of the hard work he'd put in pursuing his accounting degree and becoming a CPA.  Being an inactive CPA myself, we discussed (not to bore anyone) principles which I knew he should be learning based on the courses he told me he'd just taken.  Our discussion was highly, highly specific on accounting issues, and it was VERY obvious that he was a legitimate accounting student and was retaining what he'd learned.

When I returned home, I made a spontaneous decision to send him an email (iPhones had not yet even come out -- hence no texts) proposing that, if he was interested, I could pay his tuition as a prepayment for 13 meetings (tuition was $2,600 and back then $200 was the "going" rate).  I told him that we could meet at a restaurant the next day and I would provide the check.  He was ESTATIC!!  I KNEW as I handed the check over (payee was blank) that I had essentially no recourse if he never met with me, but I had compassion for him because he'd told me about having a tough time growing up with a father who had abandoned the family.

A couple of weeks after I supplied the check, it became obvious that he did not want to hold his end of the bargain (and clearly wasn't going to) and I knew there was nothing I could do.

<-------At this point is where I'm leaving a TON of material out, but I can supplement if anyone is interested.------->

I resolved myself that I'd just helped a young man out and let it go.  About five years later, I Googled his name, and I discovered a presentation he was making to a water system's Board of Directors (it was in the minutes).  He'd graduated, gotten his CPA license, and I actually was very, very happy for him notwithstanding the loss of funds on my end.

So, as far as I'm concerned, that was a "happy ending," and, being honest, I've thought about previously posting the whole episode to this forum, but I thought I'd be the laughing stock of the whole forum given that so many clients strenuously object to even providing a much smaller deposit for a single meeting (and I fully concur now).  Seeing so many others step up on this post, however, has caused me to be willing to publish my one and only similar situation.

From reading the initial post on this thread, I don't think the situation described has even the remotest possibility of having a "happy ending," so I have to agree with the sentiments expressed by others that you just have to let it go. 

Have you considered contacting him to ask him to repay the $2,600?  Not for your sake, because it’s clear you wrote the money off a long time ago, but for his.  Trying to imagine being in his position, it would gnaw at my conscience that I took $2,600 from someone without services rendered or repayment.  Now that he’s an established accountant, he must be particularly aware of his unpaid debt.  And there is no way in heck he’s forgotten about the money.  Just an idea.

[jusmeinbr]

6 hours ago, BSR said:

Have you considered contacting him to ask him to repay the $2,600?  Not for your sake, because it’s clear you wrote the money off a long time ago, but for his.  Trying to imagine being in his position, it would gnaw at my conscience that I took $2,600 from someone without services rendered or repayment.  Now that he’s an established accountant, he must be particularly aware of his unpaid debt.  And there is no way in heck he’s forgotten about the money.  Just an idea.

Well, as I mentioned in the post, there are details I skipped over in order to keep the post from being too long; however, in light of your question (as well as several PMs I've gotten similar in nature), I want to go ahead and provide that material that I skipped over simply to keep the post from being too long.

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I realized he wasn't going to fulfill his end of the bargain by him simply saying that he wasn't comfortable with it, and he volunteered that he'd only taken out an ad in utter desperation and stated to me via email (and this is verbatim), "I don't think anyone would agree to take it up the ass for money if they weren't desperate."   [I know every member of this forum knows that is NOT the case, but this young man was naive entailing the arena he'd entered]. 

I really needed someone just to talk to about the whole matter (really just a shoulder to be understanding) because the whole desire (particularly for spanking) can be so frustrating, especially when you see an IDEAL prospect like this young man which just vanished so quickly, so I confided what had happened to my best friend (who remains my best friend to this day).  He already knew of my desires because he and I met through a spanking contact website (The SWAT Team way back then).  He, however, was ONLY into spanking and no other activity, and it was his preference to receive (i.e. be spanked) rather than give (spank).  Nevertheless, he was (and is) incredibly hot, and my mindset is that I can ONLY be spanked by such guys (i.e. no way can I spank such a hot guy, HE gets to do the spanking).  He finally said to me, "<my name>, I can see it's going to be impossible for me to reprogram you, so I'll agree to just spank you!"  He and I have met literally (no exaggeration) hundreds of times for him to spank me.  Unfortunately, due to circumstances which I don't want to publicize here, our ability to meet became logistically much, much more difficult 15 years ago.

At any rate, when I shared what had transpired with him, he was FUMING mad, and I do mean MAD!  He demanded to know the young man's name, but I told him I just wanted to forget the whole episode.  He then said, "Well, it's NOT going to just be forgotten," and he demanded to see the check, so I gave it to him.  He also told me, "You're my best friend, but you sure can be gullible.  I promise you this kid is not even enrolled in college."  I told him that there is no way he could have faked the kind of accounting knowledge he did, but my best friend continued to insist I'd been duped!

Well, with that name (which is not a very common name), he started researching, and he found the same name registered to a lady in a city 60 miles from here.  He called her, and he asked:  "Ms. Xxxxxxx. do you know xxxxxx xxxxxx," to which he said she immediately asked, "He's my nephew.  What's he done now?"  My friend responded, "Well, at this point, nothing ma'am, but I just wanted to find out if you may know him."

My fest friend then uncovered the fact that the young man's grandfather was a music professor at a major university (not the one at which he was enrolled).  His next step was to fire off an email (which I told him I was completely against doing but you would have to know my friend), introducing himself and letting him know just how angry he was over what he had done.  He also volunteered that he'd spoken briefly with his aunt and was well aware of the professorship that his grandfather held, and he named the university.

The next thing that happened was that the young man called me and asked why I'd chosen to involve anyone else in the matter between us.  He did confide that under no circumstances did he want his grandfather finding out anything about what had happened.

I asked both him and my best friend if we could engage in a three-way phone call, and they both agreed to.  I told both my best friend and the young man that I wanted to just let the whole episode go because I wanted the young man to be able to finish school, and I also didn't even desire having a meeting for my own spanking (and other) desires given that the young man had indicated his mentality (i.e. "Nobody takes it up the ass.....").

My friend asked him point-blank, "Do you swear to me that you are enrolled in the university?"  The young man swore that he was.  My friend responded, "Well, there is no way I would agree to this if it were my money, but it's not, so what <my name> wants to do (we'd discussed this before the three-way call took place) is meet at McDonald's tomorrow morning for breakfast and, if you produce a fee slip showing you paid the tuition with that money, I will back off because that's what <my name> wants me to do, but just be damn glad you're dealing with him and not me!"

I showed up at McDonald's, and there was the young man at a table.  He was practically in tears (sincerely, not fake) and still seemed nervous even after what my friend had said the prior day, and he told me, "I am really sorry," and he even said, "I did some research, and I wanted to show you this website that helps people connect for male spanking."  It was Guyspank, which wound up taking over for the SWAT Team after that website shut down years before.  I told him, "Xxxxxxxxxx, trust me, I know about virtually any male/male spanking contact site out there, but I do appreciate you trying to help."  I even volunteered that I'd been to all male spanking gatherings in Dallas, Altana, and Chicago (all true).

My friend showed up to join us being MUCH, MUCH calmer than he was when he first found out about what happened, but he still said to me early that morning, "I am going to bet you he won't be able to produce a fee bill."  He did introduce himself, and after about 30-40 seconds he said, "Well, <my name> wants to be a nice guy and just pay for your tuition this semester, but I insist on seeing the fee bill!"  The young man pulled it right out and showed it to him!  We each went to the counter and ordered a little something to eat, and the remainder of the meeting was very relaxed.  My friend ended the meeting by saying, "You got lucky on this, but I do want you to know that <my name> and I both wish you the best in life, but as a word of advice, don't ever do anything like this again!"  The young man said, "I thank both of you, and I promise you nothing like this will ever happen with me the rest of my life."  I also sent the link for his presentation to the water system's Board of Directors to my best friend, and he said, "Wow!  That's impressive."  I knew he had the potential to make a success of his life and, especially after hearing what his aunt told my best friend ("What's he done now?"), it made me feel really happy for him because, while he idolized his grandfather, his father was a totally different matter.

So, now that the whole story is out there (but I'm sure you can see why I left all of the above out because it would have made for a marathon post), I'm sure everyone can see why I did not reach out to the young man even after five years passed.  

As a final word, my best friend (who knew and knows I think he is hot as hell) said to me, "Well, <my name> I can see why you wanted to meet with him!  He is a very good looking young man."  

 

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So that, as Paul Harvey used to say, "is the rest of the story."

Thank you to everyone who gave a thumbs up and certainly for those who took the time to read his follow-up.  I figured I'd never end up posting this whole episode, but seeing others' stories helped me realized that, contrary to my thoughts, I wouldn't have become the laughing stock of this whole forum even if I'd posted it years ago.  Thanks, everybody!

 

 

[wsc]

My avatar is said to have said, "We make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give."

I, too, have been on the short end of the stick in some transactional relations with younger men. They're sometimes just irresistible, almost like puppies. And though I was out some sums of money, it was never more than I could afford, but apparently enough to make a positive difference in the younger man's circumstances for a time.

And I have never regretted it. When they became scarce or even vanished completely, I missed their company more than I missed the cash, and I always wished them well. And now, as an older and more mature dog myself, I have less energy for the frisky puppies I occasional meet and am more cautious and circumspect in the complications I allow to enter my life.

I applaud you for your charitable impulse in helping the young man when he needed help and hope the warm feeling you get by helping overcomes the chill of feeling used. You are a good man. (And now, maybe a little wiser?) Be happy.

[+ purplekow]

4 hours ago, jusmeinbr said:

Well, as I mentioned in the post, there are details I skipped over in order to keep the post from being too long; however, in light of your question (as well as several PMs I've gotten similar in nature), I want to go ahead and provide that material that I skipped over simply to keep the post from being too long.

--------------------

I realized he wasn't going to fulfill his end of the bargain by him simply saying that he wasn't comfortable with it, and he volunteered that he'd only taken out an ad in utter desperation and stated to me via email (and this is verbatim), "I don't think anyone would agree to take it up the ass for money if they weren't desperate."   [I know every member of this forum knows that is NOT the case, but this young man was naive entailing the arena he'd entered]. 

I really needed someone just to talk to about the whole matter (really just a shoulder to be understanding) because the whole desire (particularly for spanking) can be so frustrating, especially when you see an IDEAL prospect like this young man which just vanished so quickly, so I confided what had happened to my best friend (who remains my best friend to this day).  He already knew of my desires because he and I met through a spanking contact website (The SWAT Team way back then).  He, however, was ONLY into spanking and no other activity, and it was his preference to receive (i.e. be spanked) rather than give (spank).  Nevertheless, he was (and is) incredibly hot, and my mindset is that I can ONLY be spanked by such guys (i.e. no way can I spank such a hot guy, HE gets to do the spanking).  He finally said to me, "<my name>, I can see it's going to be impossible for me to reprogram you, so I'll agree to just spank you!"  He and I have met literally (no exaggeration) hundreds of times for him to spank me.  Unfortunately, due to circumstances which I don't want to publicize here, our ability to meet became logistically much, much more difficult 15 years ago.

At any rate, when I shared what had transpired with him, he was FUMING mad, and I do mean MAD!  He demanded to know the young man's name, but I told him I just wanted to forget the whole episode.  He then said, "Well, it's NOT going to just be forgotten," and he demanded to see the check, so I gave it to him.  He also told me, "You're my best friend, but you sure can be gullible.  I promise you this kid is not even enrolled in college."  I told him that there is no way he could have faked the kind of accounting knowledge he did, but my best friend continued to insist I'd been duped!

Well, with that name (which is not a very common name), he started researching, and he found the same name registered to a lady in a city 60 miles from here.  He called her, and he asked:  "Ms. Xxxxxxx. do you know xxxxxx xxxxxx," to which he said she immediately asked, "He's my nephew.  What's he done now?"  My friend responded, "Well, at this point, nothing ma'am, but I just wanted to find out if you may know him."

My fest friend then uncovered the fact that the young man's grandfather was a music professor at a major university (not the one at which he was enrolled).  His next step was to fire off an email (which I told him I was completely against doing but you would have to know my friend), introducing himself and letting him know just how angry he was over what he had done.  He also volunteered that he'd spoken briefly with his aunt and was well aware of the professorship that his grandfather held, and he named the university.

The next thing that happened was that the young man called me and asked why I'd chosen to involve anyone else in the matter between us.  He did confide that under no circumstances did he want his grandfather finding out anything about what had happened.

I asked both him and my best friend if we could engage in a three-way phone call, and they both agreed to.  I told both my best friend and the young man that I wanted to just let the whole episode go because I wanted the young man to be able to finish school, and I also didn't even desire having a meeting for my own spanking (and other) desires given that the young man had indicated his mentality (i.e. "Nobody takes it up the ass.....").

My friend asked him point-blank, "Do you swear to me that you are enrolled in the university?"  The young man swore that he was.  My friend responded, "Well, there is no way I would agree to this if it were my money, but it's not, so what <my name> wants to do (we'd discussed this before the three-way call took place) is meet at McDonald's tomorrow morning for breakfast and, if you produce a fee slip showing you paid the tuition with that money, I will back off because that's what <my name> wants me to do, but just be damn glad you're dealing with him and not me!"

I showed up at McDonald's, and there was the young man at a table.  He was practically in tears (sincerely, not fake) and still seemed nervous even after what my friend had said the prior day, and he told me, "I am really sorry," and he even said, "I did some research, and I wanted to show you this website that helps people connect for male spanking."  It was Guyspank, which wound up taking over for the SWAT Team after that website shut down years before.  I told him, "Xxxxxxxxxx, trust me, I know about virtually any male/male spanking contact site out there, but I do appreciate you trying to help."  I even volunteered that I'd been to all male spanking gatherings in Dallas, Altana, and Chicago (all true).

My friend showed up to join us being MUCH, MUCH calmer than he was when he first found out about what happened, but he still said to me early that morning, "I am going to bet you he won't be able to produce a fee bill."  He did introduce himself, and after about 30-40 seconds he said, "Well, <my name> wants to be a nice guy and just pay for your tuition this semester, but I insist on seeing the fee bill!"  The young man pulled it right out and showed it to him!  We each went to the counter and ordered a little something to eat, and the remainder of the meeting was very relaxed.  My friend ended the meeting by saying, "You got lucky on this, but I do want you to know that <my name> and I both wish you the best in life, but as a word of advice, don't ever do anything like this again!"  The young man said, "I thank both of you, and I promise you nothing like this will ever happen with me the rest of my life."  I also sent the link for his presentation to the water system's Board of Directors to my best friend, and he said, "Wow!  That's impressive."  I knew he had the potential to make a success of his life and, especially after hearing what his aunt told my best friend ("What's he done now?"), it made me feel really happy for him because, while he idolized his grandfather, his father was a totally different matter.

So, now that the whole story is out there (but I'm sure you can see why I left all of the above out because it would have made for a marathon post), I'm sure everyone can see why I did not reach out to the young man even after five years passed.  

As a final word, my best friend (who knew and knows I think he is hot as hell) said to me, "Well, <my name> I can see why you wanted to meet with him!  He is a very good looking young man."  

 

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So that, as Paul Harvey used to say, "is the rest of the story."

Thank you to everyone who gave a thumbs up and certainly for those who took the time to read his follow-up.  I figured I'd never end up posting this whole episode, but seeing others' stories helped me realized that, contrary to my thoughts, I wouldn't have become the laughing stock of this whole forum even if I'd posted it years ago.  Thanks, everybody!

 

 

I might have contacted him when you found he was making the presentation.  It would have been an excellent time to either ask him to pay you back so you could make a donation to real  charity and not one  such as the one he concocted for himself.  I would have mentioned that his hard work has worked out, but there is no free ride.  I would also advise him that if he made a donation to a specified charity, he could sent you the receipt and he could take the tax benefit.   What this young man was deceitful and a few tears at a McDonald's is not enough.  In addition, his grandfather likely could have given him the money.  If he did not ask there or did not receive it there, there was likely a good reason.  Given his aunt's response, it seems likely that he had pulled other scams.  It is fine that you are fine with the outcome, but I would only feel okay if he did indeed pay back the money either to me or pay it forward to a charity.  Going to the meeting to meet him face to face would have been my option if he did not agree to a charitable recompensation.   But hey, I am Sicilian, so my credo is similar to Don Corleone.  (lion heart for those that never gave it much thought).