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5 hours ago, SthJrsy said:

I'd say that's pretty accurate. I work just outside Philly and my clients are mostly married straight guys.

That makes sense.  Gay and Bisexual men can usually find plenty of other willing men for sex.  But a few Straight married guys I know say their wives won't let them have sex with another female, but are okay if they have sex with another guy because it's "not cheating" on them.  The married Straight men just want a human hand and mouth to give them a release.  They'll pay for and settle for a male, because it's (1) cheaper than a female and (2) not cheating on their wives per the understanding they have with their wives. 

 

From a personal experience:

I am not bisexual.  But I've let a female give me a handjob before.    If I'm naked and a woman starts to rub my penis and it feels good, I stare at her husband to get me excited and let the hand finish what it's doing until I release.  Just keep her vagina 🤢 away from me and I can block her out and focus on the male image in my head.  I'm sure straight men can be ok receiving head from an anonymous bloke so long as they don't see the other guy's penis or kiss, for example.  I've also used vibrators before, but I'm not going to identify as being sexually attracted to robots!  It doesn't really matter if a female or male is holding that vibrator to my body, as long as it's a hot Daddy that I'm imagining to get me off!

Posted
3 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Just keep her vagina 🤢 away from me and I can block her out and focus on the male image in my head. 

Here’s a challenge / question for you. In my other line of work I make massage porn films (quick promotion- available on my OnlyFans and Justforfans 🤪). One of the ‘guys’ I’ve filmed with is a lovely trans guy who has a vagina. The rest of him is very much male (hairy, muscles etc). He’s great and I enjoyed the filming with him, so much so that we’ve done two films now. I’m bi so the presence of a vagina wasn’t an issue for me (I understand how they work 🙂). But how would you handle a guy with a pussy? I’m genuinely interested, would it be a turn on when you look at his body and then 😱when he takes off his underwear? 

All my films are with guys and I expected some criticism for filming with a trans guy and showing me fucking him (in the vagina) but apart from one negative comment the films were received positively. I think that’s because apart from the vagina he’s very male. It looks like two guys having sex. 
 

 


 

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

But how would you handle a guy with a pussy?

I would probably break out in hives and have trouble breathing.  It's been confirmed that I'm allergic to pussy: 

To bring this tangent back to the original subject:

I do find it amusing that so many members on here won't let a man who pays to have sex with men self-identify as "straight", yet probably don't bat an eye at letting someone self-identify as a man or woman, etc.  Seems queer to me

 

 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

 

I do find it amusing that so many members on here won't let a man who pays to have sex with men self-identify as "straight", yet probably don't bat an eye at letting someone self-identify as a man or woman, etc.  Seems queer to me

I never said they can’t identify as straight. In fact I said they can call themselves whatever they want. I just don’t believe them. It’s really not that deep.

Posted
16 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

....a few Straight married guys I know say their wives won't let them have sex with another female, but are okay if they have sex with another guy because it's "not cheating" on them. 

Not "straight" here...but this is how it is for me and my wife. We are both bisexual and have an understanding that extra curricular same-sex activity allows us to satisfy our diverse sexual interests but engaging in outside heterosexual activity would feel like "cheating". I realize this sounds a little fucked up, and maybe the logic is difficult to understand but we BOTH feel strongly about the matter. And we both (to the best of my knowledge) have always respected that agreement since we married 20 years ago. 

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On 10/7/2025 at 1:15 AM, pubic_assistance said:

Would be interesting to hear from some providers who do actually  understand the issue of "straight men' hiring. 

I feel there are a number "straight" men that hire with the curiosity of what is it like to be sexual with a man.  Some enjoy the experience and might consider themselves bisexual afterwards.  I've had a number of men come to me saying they wanted to try anal but their wife wouldn't let them.  My job is to help them with the experience to help them with their fantasy.

Posted
3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Not "straight" here...but this is how it is for me and my wife. We are both bisexual and have an understanding that extra curricular same-sex activity allows us to satisfy our diverse sexual interests but engaging in outside heterosexual activity would feel like "cheating". I realize this sounds a little fucked up, and maybe the logic is difficult to understand but we BOTH feel strongly about the matter. And we both (to the best of my knowledge) have always respected that agreement since we married 20 years ago. 

Doesn’t sound f*cked up to me, not even a little.  In the olden days, back when conventional wisdom held that the best form of contraception was an aspirin, held between the knees, a mistress was such an enormous threat to a wife not just because of the emotional betrayal but also the possible financial burden that supporting a mistress & child imposed.  Flipped around, no husband wanted his wife to get pregnant with another man’s child, lest he get stuck with raising and supporting a kid that wasn’t his.  Even after the pill, Roe, and DNA testing, that mentality persisted.

Maybe that psychology shaped your agreement; maybe it has absolutely nothing to do with it.  Regardless, it sounds like you and your wife have figured out what works for the two of you, which is all that matters.

Posted (edited)
On 10/6/2025 at 11:57 PM, Alabastrine said:

ok now I'm getting confused... does this all come down to semantics and disagreement on what qualifies as "bisexual" vs straight?

We've got: 

  1. Sexual Attraction (As in "Yeah, I'd hit that...")
  2. Romantic Attraction (As in "Yeah I'd put a ring on that... and hit that...")
  3. Situational Horniness (As in JAIL)
  4. Situational Incentive (As in if Bill Gates offered you 100mil to suck his dick, but you're straight. What would you do it?)

Which situations from 1-4 where sex with men are involved qualifies someone as straight, bi or gay?

I see where @Gilfsonis coming from where paying a male escort of their own free will (no situational pressure or survival scenarios), is indicative of sexual attraction to men, and that alone seems counterfactual to the "straight" identity. 

I’m just as confused as you are.  Perhaps I’m way too ignorant in the terminologies and definitions.

However, I do see the points made by @Gilfson.  I recall my friend once asked, when engaging in a similar discussion on sexuality/identity/orientation, “Do you still call yourself a vegetarian if you eat meat for whatever reasons?”  I don’t know and I don’t really care enough to know.  My reply was: “You do you.  You eat whatever you want whenever and however you want.  I can care less.”

That said, IMO, if you’re a herbivore, eat your salad; if you’re a carnivore, help yourself with medium rare; and if you’re an omnivore, enjoy your all-you-can-eat buffet.  At the end of the day, you may be the only person in this entire universe who cares about how you label yourself.

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On 10/7/2025 at 12:24 PM, Jamie21 said:

Many of my clients are straight when they walk through the door, but gay when they leave. Isn’t that fabulous 😉

Have you had self-proclaimed lesbian clients who become straight after spending time with you?  If so, it is doubly fabulous indeed!  😜

Posted

I kind of have a crazy view point on this.

I really haven't assigned myself a label, Bi, gay, whatever. I would say long term relationship or marriage; I'm pretty straight. But I have many fetishes and I kind of consider gay sex as another fetish. I'm into BDSM, piss, and a load of other things. I just want my sex to be fun and feel kind of wrong at the same time. I get with guys and depending on the person, I will go from top to bottom, dom or sub or whatever I'm feeling at the time. Also the person I'm with will affect that. 

I just really enjoy all aspects of sex. From normal to down right crazy. I have things I'm not into, like feet or trans. Nothing against that, but it's my personal preference. I think more people should experiment more, and be able to be open about fantasies or fetishes. At the end of the day does a label really even matter?

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Wings246 said:

Have you had self-proclaimed lesbian clients who become straight after spending time with you?  If so, it is doubly fabulous indeed!  😜

I did do a tandem sensual massage for two lesbians one time (tandem massage is two tables, two masseurs, two clients, massaging next to each other, the masseurs switch tables part way through).

I’m bi, so was the other masseur. Before the session we wondered whether the two lesbians would interact with us in any way. Despite us being naked and available to touch the lesbians were only interested in receiving touch and got turned on by the proximity and sound of their partner enjoying their massage. They both climaxed at the same time. So unfortunately we didn’t turn them straight 😕. Probably made them even more lesbian.

I find ‘straight’ women are much more relaxed about same sex activities than ‘straight’ guys. I’ve been at parties with straight couples and the women play with each other easily whereas the guys are really anxious about doing anything ‘gay’. It’s like they think if they let me touch their cock within 5 minutes I’ll be balls deep in their hole…and they worry they might enjoy it 😂

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Posted

Many guys like a deep thorough massage and women are less reliably good at delivering that. 

Massage generally makes you horny delivered by either gender.  They may or may not want a happy ending, but who delivers it isn't the priority of the session. Gay guys can get HEs from guys they're not at all attracted to or get aroused when massaged by women. 

It makes sense for straight guys to go to guys even for erotic massage, and it's not as telling as you might think of their sexuality.

Posted
43 minutes ago, ReynST said:

Many guys like a deep thorough massage and women are less reliably good at delivering that. 

Massage generally makes you horny delivered by either gender.  They may or may not want a happy ending, but who delivers it isn't the priority of the session. Gay guys can get HEs from guys they're not at all attracted to or get aroused when massaged by women. 

It makes sense for straight guys to go to guys even for erotic massage, and it's not as telling as you might think of their sexuality.

Excellent insight.  When I used to get massages weekly when I did daily physical training, I always requested a masseur for that reason.  Only once did I receive a massage from a masseuse that was up to par with the deep work that masseurs usually provide.  I still remember when and where she worked, even though it was over 15 years ago. 

And of course, I was so relaxed and in a state of bliss at the end of her massage that I wouldn't have refused a handjob if she offered.  But there was none, and I still left  happy with the service, and I never once thought to change my sexual identity during that hour.

Posted

I have a friend-with-benefits who identifies as lesbian and mostly we have a “buddy” relationship.  She and I share some hobbies and interests and we get together whenever one of us is in the other’s town.  Occasionally, she likes some dick.  She says that’s a purely physical pleasure for her and it doesn’t fulfill some emotional cravings for her.  But she enjoys the physical sensations, she likes pleasuring her buddy, enjoys the variety of sex she gets with a man, and the fact that it feels a little transgressive to her makes it a kinky turn-on for her.

Posted

Providers - 

How often do straight clients show up out of curiosity and are unable to fully function sexually? Sexuality is complicated, but I know a couple of straight men who are very open to new experiences, but just can't get it up for another man, however good the massage. 

Also - do you get a lot of ring wearers who claim to be straight and married, but you can tell they are putting on an act?

I sometimes wear my wedding band on my left hand and when asked if I'm straight, say yes. In our culture, the straight man fantasy still gets a lot of mileage. 

Posted
On 10/9/2025 at 12:22 PM, ReynST said:

Many guys like a deep thorough massage and women are less reliably good at delivering that. 

Massage generally makes you horny delivered by either gender.  They may or may not want a happy ending, but who delivers it isn't the priority of the session. Gay guys can get HEs from guys they're not at all attracted to or get aroused when massaged by women. 

It makes sense for straight guys to go to guys even for erotic massage, and it's not as telling as you might think of their sexuality.

I have always requested male masseurs at spas and hotels because, as you say, women are not as capable physically when it comes to deep pressure.  I’m not sure I would agree that massage generally makes you horny though.  The person doing the massage has to move his/her hands pretty far into my normally-draped regions before I feel the stirrings of an erection. Sadly, most massagers stop well short of those regions in a typical spa/hotel situation.  That’s why I hire from RMass….

Posted
20 hours ago, Manhattan said:

I sometimes wear my wedding band on my left hand and when asked if I'm straight, say yes.

Wouldn't that give a masseur the impression that you are LESS likely to want a hand job ? 

I never wear my wedding band when trying to hook up. Even when booking a massage, if I think theres a chance of some extras. To me, it makes me look less inclined toward m4m action. 

Posted (edited)
On 9/28/2025 at 2:06 AM, nycman said:

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Always hated this pushback that started in the '90s, calling people who rerference categories, WHICH HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A REASONABLE and USEFUL THING, as "Labeling".  Because yes, we all know that "YOU" the person calling out the labeler, are a unique butterfly-unicorn hybrid that defies all categorization.  Aren't you special?

When my friends and I first noticed this around '92, so many would say "I don't believe in labels", and we'd respond to this ridiculousness:    I can even label you.  You are an individual in that group of people of people who deny the existence of labels.  That's your label.  

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Posted
On 9/28/2025 at 9:17 AM, FrankR said:

If the provider is somebody you are paying, he is not your friend. You may be on friendly terms, but that is likely where it stops. Confusing a friendly provider for a friend is likely to get your feelings hurt. 
 

Most providers dont ask for orientation, so getting a reliable answer here is doubtful.

Are you saying that a provider and a client can't become friends?

Shit, I should ask that one provider who asked me to move into his apartment with him. I mean it was tough because he had a ton of clothes and not much closet space, but when I finally packed up and moved he figured out a way to make room for both of our stuff. 

Don't judge. You have no idea of the dynamic between this poster and the provider and whatever relationship they may have. 

Posted
On 9/28/2025 at 9:17 AM, FrankR said:

If the provider is somebody you are paying, he is not your friend. You may be on friendly terms, but that is likely where it stops. Confusing a friendly provider for a friend is likely to get your feelings hurt. 
 

Most providers dont ask for orientation, so getting a reliable answer here is doubtful.

 

1 hour ago, ThroatCummer said:

Are you saying that a provider and a client can't become friends?

Shit, I should ask that one provider who asked me to move into his apartment with him. I mean it was tough because he had a ton of clothes and not much closet space, but when I finally packed up and moved he figured out a way to make room for both of our stuff. 

Don't judge. You have no idea of the dynamic between this poster and the provider and whatever relationship they may have. 

Don’t confuse the exception for the rule.  Your case is the exception, not the rule.  Feel free to disagree with my opinion, but don’t frame it as judgment.

 

Posted
8 hours ago, ThroatCummer said:

Are you saying that a provider and a client can't become friends?

I think this is a semantic thing, just like asking if someone hiring men for sex can be "straight".  It all depends on your definition.  I have many work colleagues (and even clients) whom I call friends, but the are in no way the same as my social friends or my childhood friends or my friends with whom I have (or had) a sexual relationship.  They're all described as friends, but the nature and the closeness of the relationships vary enormously.  

Posted
On 10/24/2025 at 8:35 AM, jackcali said:

I think this is a semantic thing,

It's about identity.

The same way trans people identify as something that we all know isn't actually true. But modern social theory says that we should respect the way that person identifies, not what is precisely true. 

"Straight" identity in men who are actually bisexual typically means their identity is based on their primary relationship status. Married to a woman, primarily attracted to women, or only romantically interested in women.

The old attitude of being "gay the second you stick your dick in a dude", is archaic. For examoke, I don't personally identify as "straight" just because  I'm married to a woman, but I have been told, plenty of times that I am not bi, but actually gay because I am also attracted to (some) men. In this case, these gay guys, who are happy to acknowledge some dude in a dress is a woman, will give ME a hard time, when I identify as bisexual. 

In the end, how a person identifies should be at least acknowledged, in spite of any contradictory information that may lead you to believe otherwise. Yes - the straight identifying m4m escorts are not actually straight. But we dont need to tell them how to express themselves same way you shouldn't call out a dude-in-a-dress for being a liar.

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