Client Profiles: what's actually helpful to providers

[+ Alabastrine]

Hi Providers, 

I had seen another poster on these forums mention it was helpful to set up a client profile on rentmen. I was about to go do that, but was curious about what type of info providers actually find helpful, as well as any "do's" and "dont's" for newbies who might otherwise put something silly or in a shade of gray (legally speaking, and not in the "fun" way...). 

[Boaxxx]

Great question. I look forward to hearing what providers have to say.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

It's not what you have in a profile.  

It's how you compose the private message.

Be clear.  Be direct.  Be kind.  

[+ Jamie21]

Nothing. I don’t look at them. Your initial message tells me everything I need to know, even if it’s ‘hey’….Especially if it’s ‘hey’. 

Name. Preferred date, time, duration, location, where you found my details (so that I know you’ve read my profile/website) and any specific requirements. That’s all you need to do. 

[56harrisond]

Initial message discussion:

 

[Erbenle]

Jamie21. Your response is perfect and makes sense, but wow…that “Hey” is so tempting—I am a 63 year old guy and I’m fearful some of the providers I reach out to will laugh in my face (well, laugh in my face to my photo the screen, ha).  
 

What do younger providers think of being with older guys? Are they grossed out? I’m clean, groomed, considerate, respectful, and I take clues from my provider. Seriously, I feel like a good respectable client…and the people I’m with usually seem to react positively to me.  
 

Thats’s sometime why I say “Hey” instead of my stats and such in my initial message.
 

Jamie21…I will continue with stats, appointment details, requests, and where I found their information. thank you for your insight.

Thanks for clarifying!  

love you guys! Thanks. 

Edited May 9 by Erbenle

[+ KensingtonHomo]

I can't speak for Jamie21, but me and my husband are in our 50s. Very similar to your vibe. We're good not fantastic shape, we take care of ourselves, and our experience is that most providers enjoy us as clients. 

[DznNYC]

Maybe I’m the anomaly here, but I definitely read client profiles.  And I appreciate it when they have enough information to skip over the basic questions.  Any shortcut through the vortex of endless chat is helpful.  

Typically, I let potential clients make the first move.  But if I see a particular profile visiting mine over and over, I’m not above sending them a hello.  If they have a profile, it’s much easier to discern whether or not that’s worthwhile.  

Even a general reference to your sexual preferences helps me to know if you might enjoy what I have to offer.  If you’re looking for Dom top bears, that’s not me.  If you’re looking for twinks, also not me!

On a practical note, the number one deal breaker I encounter is hosting.  I don’t live alone, and as part of that I’ve agreed not to bring clients into the home.  Clearly stated in my profile, but 99% overlooked.  (SO many times, we’re ALMOST ready to book it, when the client is SHOCKED to learn I can’t host.) If you mention your hosting preference in a profile, that could save a lot of wasted time.

A client profile doesn’t need to have a photo!   (See literally a hundred other threads here about clients sharing photos.)

And if advanced age is an issue for a provider, they’re in the wrong business!  Not sure how a provider provides without a genuine love of older men.  That should not be a concern  

More client profiles please! 🙏🏻 

[Archangel]

7 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

Nothing. I don’t look at them. Your initial message tells me everything I need to know, even if it’s ‘hey’….Especially if it’s ‘hey’.

I’m glad you said that. It seems we have apologists here for providers who reply with such responses but argue it’s not any kind of indicator. It is. If you as a provider can understand something from “hey,”…especially if it’s “hey,” so can clients 🙂 

To the OP – I don’t see it as at all necessary to have a profile as a client. I don’t typically reach out over RM so he wouldn’t be able to look me up anyhow.

Edited May 9 by Archangel

[Archangel]

1 hour ago, DznNYC said:

Any shortcut through the vortex of endless chat is helpful

Ironic how long your post is 😉 

Maybe I’m an anomaly here, but I don’t understand fully the aversion to texting and chatting. Here and in general. People will often say they are so busy they don’t reply to texts etc. I don’t find texting is at all a major imposition on my time. What I believe is the actual issue is texting means accountability to someone else, to a degree on their terms, and that rubs people wrong. In a personal setting, I can see that as more legitimate than in a professional sense. I handle all texts related to work aa soon as I see them and until I’m sure who texted me is satisfied.

I will also say that the line I quoted above and others like it that inveigh against “endless messaging” or the like are a huge turn off. Do you want my business or not? It’s as welcoming as a “no loitering” sign.

When I go to Lowes to make a purchase, I ask questions if I have them. I will keep asking questions til I’m sure what I’m purchasing is what I want. The associate doesn’t say in the middle of the exchange anything about it because it’s part of the job. Sometimes it’s not what I’m looking for and after asking all those questions, I leave without making a purchase. If it’s not at Lowes, it might be a place where salespeople get commission. That doesn’t affect my asking questions. They might invest energy into answering my questions but not make the sale. That’s how it is.

I once worked in retail. I know. You may not like customers who ask questions but it’s part of the job.

All that to say, “endless messaging” in an ad will disincline me greatly from reaching out. It sends the message that a potential provider is parsimonious with their offering and prejudiced about the meetup already before it’s even been discussed as a chore more than an opportunity. I want a provider who wants to give it his all, not one who wants me to understand from the get-go what we already know – “This is a transaction.” 

[italianboyph]

Not so much what's in the profile, it's more the direct transparency. 

[Archangel]

@DznNYC, I looked at your RM profile. Although you list yourself as a bottom and I wouldn’t be reaching out because of that, I do see you have this—

Quote

Willing to put in the time in advance to learn your needs, without judgement. You should feel safe asking me anything.

But here you seem to suggest that “endless chatting” vexes you. Which is it? If you put something like that, and weren’t a bottom, I might reach out to you thinking you were willing to actually do what you say. Yet here in the forum you seem to say the opposite. You seem to say here, “Get a move on with it; don’t waste my time!”

How exactly are you going to learn my needs if you have, without judgement, already judged that there’s a high probability for “endless chatting?”

[DznNYC]

23 minutes ago, Archangel said:

Ironic how long your post is 😉 

 

I actually really love communicating with potential clients.  Learning what makes guys tick is one of the great joys of being a provider.  I’m always very happy to engage. 

I fully believe in a thorough serious chat beforehand.  I think it can only make the experience better for both parties.  I get more excited to meet guys when I know more about them   

What I think you’re missing here is the massive population that uses RentMen as a source of free sexting, with zero intention of meeting up.  That’s when you get “endless messaging,” which only serves to exhaust and frustrate providers.  

 I think it bears keeping in mind when you reach out to a provider in good faith, they’re often drowning in messages from guys who are not acting in good faith.   

And thanks for checking my profile!   I appreciate you taking the time to clarify.  “Which is it?”  It’s very both. My willingness to engage makes me an easy target for lots of unserious conversations, which is why I chimed in here.  

But back to the topic at hand…. Some basic profile info - while not at all a requirement - can be helpful to move conversations along. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

2 hours ago, DznNYC said:

But if I see a particular profile visiting mine over and over, I’m not above sending them a hello.  If they have a profile, it’s much easier to discern whether or not that’s worthwhile.  

You reached out to me. And while we haven't connected yet, I remain interested. 

[BrickBuilder]

10 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

You reached out to me. And while we haven't connected yet, I remain interested. 

Oh Take the Nestea Plunge!

[Archangel]

@DznNYC, thank you for the clarification!

I myself love a good conversation. You can learn a lot, both in person and in text (chat or messages). I actually learned German and became fluent primarily through online chatting. If everyone is engaged, it can be rewarding.

Back to the topic: clients having a profile to check out presupposes communication through RM, it seems. I’m curious. Do most potential clients reach out over RM or via text? I prefer texting. I’ve never had an escort ask me to know my username on RM. 

[DznNYC]

23 minutes ago, Archangel said:

Back to the topic: clients having a profile to check out presupposes communication through RM, it seems. I’m curious. Do most potential clients reach out over RM or via text? I prefer texting. I’ve never had an escort ask me to know my username on RM. 

Seems in my experience that most reach out over RM.  Occasionally clients do have profiles there, and it’s nice to have some central details to grab onto for a conversation. 

Many reach out directly on WhatsApp or Telegram.  I generally don’t have a preference between that or RM for first contact.  Though I do appreciate being able to move a chat to text, if guys are amenable.

I do try to avoid SMS texting or iMessage with clients.  Partly because the encrypted apps add a small layer of protection for all involved.  And partly because it’s a helpful compartmentalization.  Nice to be able to keep texts with clients separate from texts with my mom.  🤷🏼‍♂️ 

[MuscleDaddyRWC]

I have a client profile really to have a couple pictures in case a provider weeds clients out based on age/looks. (I've had that happen)

But interestingly I wrote "prefer no draping" and it shows a "prefer no d******".  I didn't think draping would be a sensitive word.  And also curious what readers would think the word is!

[Archangel]

47 minutes ago, MuscleDaddyRWC said:

But interestingly I wrote "prefer no draping" and it shows a "prefer no d******".  I didn't think draping would be a sensitive word.

Raping, perhaps? Banning that specific word?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

11 minutes ago, Archangel said:

Raping, perhaps? Banning that specific word?

So, you're saying we also can't talk about Don D****r from Mad Men?

This is going to make the current rewatch I'm in mighty difficult.

[+ Jamie21]

9 hours ago, Erbenle said:

Jamie21. Your response is perfect and makes sense, but wow…that “Hey” is so tempting—I am a 63 year old guy and I’m fearful some of the providers I reach out to will laugh in my face (well, laugh in my face to my photo the screen, ha).  
 

What do younger providers think of being with older guys? Are they grossed out? I’m clean, groomed, considerate, respectful, and I take clues from my provider. Seriously, I feel like a good respectable client…and the people I’m with usually seem to react positively to me.  
 

Thats’s sometime why I say “Hey” instead of my stats and such in my initial message.
 

Jamie21…I will continue with stats, appointment details, requests, and where I found their information. thank you for your insight.

Thanks for clarifying!  

love you guys! Thanks. 

Hold up! I’m not so young 🤪. I wouldn’t worry about putting off providers who baulk at your age. You’re best to avoid those guys and to find out before you meet them! Decent guys will not be bothered. I’ve clients who are in their 70’s. I love it that they hire me. Fantastic guys. 

My issue with ‘hey’ is that it comes alone. ‘Hey’ …then nothing until I reply. Then it’s ’how are you’ 🙄. My heart sinks. It’s going to be a long exchange until we get to what he wants. I know he thinks he’s being polite etc but when you’ve responded to the same kind of approach 100’s of times it gets a bit challenging. It’s polite enough to just say ‘hello I like your profile/ad (or whatever) and I’d like to book a session on day / time’. We can take it from there. 
 

 

[Archangel]

My issue with “hey” is that it lacks any kind of seriousness that points toward a professional transaction. 

[BuffaloKyle]

I have my client page completely filled out. I think it's helpful for a provider as I can say in my first message check out my page for all my stats and information on what I am looking for and get into.

[Simon Suraci]

On 5/9/2025 at 2:23 AM, Jamie21 said:

Your initial message tells me everything I need to know, even if it’s ‘hey’….Especially if it’s ‘hey’. 

Name. Preferred date, time, duration, location, where you found my details…and any specific requirements.

Agree with this bit

On 5/8/2025 at 7:25 PM, BenjaminNicholas said:

how you compose the private message.

Be clear.  Be direct.  Be kind. 

Agree with this bit

AND

I do look at profiles, but not to check for pictures, age, body type, looks, race, disability, physical traits, or to discriminate based on any of those. I check profiles to glean any information I can about the client’s interests and preferences, to see if he would be a compatible client, or if their is something I can particularly speak to, like, “I noticed you mentioned you like to be rimmed. I’m an excellent rimmer and really get into it.” Or the client indicates he can only meet late night, or on short notice, or only wants outcall during the day. Things like that.

Client interests vary over time and by provider. Just because a client lists an interest or preference does not mean it will apply to me or to this particular meeting request he is contacting me for. However, the majority of the time, it tells me more or less what to expect and helps prepare me to do what I need to do to serve the client’s needs. This is particularly helpful when a client is less than forthcoming in their messages. They may feel uncomfortable asking directly, but the profile gives me a clue.

What may be true for one client 90% of the time that they write on a profile might be different with me, or for this specific session. A lot of times clients contact me precisely to get out of their comfort zone, to do things they normally wouldn’t, to try something different in a safe space. That’s good too. 

All that said, very few clients list any information on their profile aside from the obligatory username and home city. The city by the way is not always correct because people move and don’t update, or travel frequently and/or never hire in their home city, so it’s almost completely irrelevant. 

On 5/9/2025 at 9:37 AM, DznNYC said:

I appreciate it when they have enough information to skip over the basic questions.  Any shortcut through the vortex of endless chat is helpful.

Yes, definitely agree here

On 5/9/2025 at 9:37 AM, DznNYC said:

If they have a profile, it’s much easier to discern whether or not that’s worthwhile.  

Agree 💯 

Not every client has a profile, or if they do they have the settings set to private so I don’t see their visit. Some just view me, click the contact button and text. That’s fine with me too, as long as they are good about telling me upfront what their needs and preferences are.

[+ Alabastrine]

Thank you everyone! looks like it's a mixed bag where some providers do read profiles, yet it seems the communication etiquette and information in the initial outreach is still the most important. Couldn't hurt to do both in that case.