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Stop asking for happy ending right out of the gate. If we are on rentmasseur or massurefinder we will do full service.  But if you come in hot with your questions. We will turn you down. Read between the lines of the response, if we tell you the price that's the price and its a yes,  if you keep pressing for a happy ending we will think you are a cop and drop you. I feel like it's common sense.  Screenshot_20250106_132417_Messages.thumb.jpg.e7b17e9f59922415b7d7556b46d501ad.jpg

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1 hour ago, Brocklmt said:

Stop asking for happy ending right out of the gate.

Good luck with that request. There are way too many guys here who require some sort of guarantee. Many also have a laundry list of things, included in their fantasy, that, if not part of the service, will cause great anxiety. Personally, I have never learned how to control human behavior, especially the behavior of a horny gay man. Like I said, good luck with that.

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Too much is on the line for providers. Esp if you are advertising massage in the US. I personally don't take or respond to clients that cannot read between the lines. Also, I provide pleasure because I want to, it's hot. The moment I feel like I am demanded to, I am out.  But obviously this is not the case for many providers.

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2 hours ago, newportbeachdude77 said:

I don’t ask for it, I just hope it happens. But it’s not true that all guys on masseurfinder provide it. (Or if they do, it’s certainly a YMMV situation for many of them.)

But most providers do provide some sort of service. But you can clearly tell in their profiles if they do or don't. I get a lot of messages of guys asking for happy ending. The problem is coming straight out and asking a complete stranger. Then when I respond i'll be happy to help you with the massage. they asked the exact same question again. Which if you say you do it has potential to get you in trouble. You don't Know who's on the other line

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2 hours ago, d.anders said:

Good luck with that request. There are way too many guys here who require some sort of guarantee. Many also have a laundry list of things, included in their fantasy, that, if not part of the service, will cause great anxiety. Personally, I have never learned how to control human behavior, especially the behavior of a horny gay man. Like I said, good luck with that.

Oh I get the fantasy part alright, the craziest one was they wanted me to wear an adult diaper and goo goo gaga for them. Few people want to wrestle me and pin me down. there's a lot of done and still massage them after that's probably why I get a lot of repeats.  But it's the guy that cannot catch a clue, if they ask for mutual touch, i say yes there's a lot of grabbing involved because they're stretching done that we work in tandem.  That if i'm top or bottom , well , yes , i'm very versatile in the different types of modality is that I do. That I can work upper and lower back and front. BUT IF THEY WANT ME TO PHYSICALLY, SAY THAT I WILL DO IT.I HAVE TO DROP THEM. I then tell them what they did wrong and how to respond in the future.  But I can't work on them. 

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13 hours ago, Brocklmt said:

if they ask for mutual touch, i say yes there's a lot of grabbing

I have often heard providers complain about the "grabbers." You can tell by some of the discussions on this board, many men are too hungry for anyone's good. Their appetite for sex is insatiable. They grab instead of touch sensually. It reminds me of men who scarf down their food. Get it in as fast as you can because I need to feel the pleasure as quickly as possible. It's a message of desperation. These are not fun or enjoyable customers. I don't care what they are willing to pay.

If you are this type of guy, it is not easy to change. Because change requires a behavioral adjustment, and many refuse to see the forest for the trees, and face their own truth. The best and safest way to deal with a client like this is to let him go.

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57 minutes ago, d.anders said:

I have often heard providers complain about the "grabbers." You can tell by some of the discussions on this board, many men are too hungry for anyone's good. Their appetite for sex is insatiable. They grab instead of touch sensually. It reminds me of men who scarf down their food. Get it in as fast as you can because I need to feel the pleasure as quickly as possible. It's a message of desperation. These are not fun or enjoyable customers. I don't care what they are willing to pay.

If you are this type of guy, it is not easy to change. Because change requires a behavioral adjustment, and many refuse to see the forest for the trees, and face their own truth. The best and safest way to deal with a client like this is to let him go.

I think what you are getting at is showing respect.  When I meet someone new I try to read signals and even then I move carefully until I know what is Ok.  I always adhere to be nice and respectful and you will almost always have a great experience.  Act like an ass and you get what you deserve.

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23 hours ago, Brocklmt said:

Stop asking for happy ending right out of the gate. If we are on rentmasseur or massurefinder we will do full service.  But if you come in hot with your questions. We will turn you down. Read between the lines of the response, if we tell you the price that's the price and its a yes,  if you keep pressing for a happy ending we will think you are a cop and drop you. I feel like it's common sense.  Screenshot_20250106_132417_Messages.thumb.jpg.e7b17e9f59922415b7d7556b46d501ad.jpg

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I'm notoriously bad at reading between the lines, but, in my case I would take things in the opposite direction of what you're getting at.  I would never expect or assume that a masseur would be offering any 'extras', so I'm pretty sure I'd be completely oblivious to any signals.  Even if if the masseur took all of his clothes off and climbed up on top of me, I would probably convince myself that this was just part of the therapeutic massage.... 🤣

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To paraphrase the advice all over this forum when arranging an appointment, be it massage, quickie, overnight, or travel, you need to be clear about expectations. Otherwise, you’ll be disappointed. If I wanted a full service massage, I would ask. And if the masseur was cagey about it, I’d likely move on. There are other providers with less hangups that could overshadow time together. 

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12 hours ago, d.anders said:

I have often heard providers complain about the "grabbers." You can tell by some of the discussions on this board, many men are too hungry for anyone's good. Their appetite for sex is insatiable. They grab instead of touch sensually. It reminds me of men who scarf down their food. Get it in as fast as you can because I need to feel the pleasure as quickly as possible. It's a message of desperation. These are not fun or enjoyable customers. I don't care what they are willing to pay.

If you are this type of guy, it is not easy to change. Because change requires a behavioral adjustment, and many refuse to see the forest for the trees, and face their own truth. The best and safest way to deal with a client like this is to let him go.

Exactly this!

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Eh, my experience is that aversion to change spans all genera of personalities. It’s not just one type person; although there are plenty of types of things many people refuse to change. 

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Happy ending lol. I can tell I’ve come full circle.  Unless a whole lot of nasty filth is going  on, and I’m not bored, and not to tired, and I’m free for the day.  No. 

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6 minutes ago, d.anders said:

Showing respect for someone else is difficult to do if you don't respect yourself. Sort of like love.

True.  I see 2 providers now that left the RM platforms for the reasons you stated above.  The one just left and sent me a text yesterday saying he still wants to meet with me as long as I still want him.  He said I don't want to be there anymore (the RM sites) and don't want to meet new people.  You (me) are a very nice person and I love having you as a client.

This provider is one of the nicest people you will meet, so for him to be turned off by clients that he left the platforms says something.  And he is really good and very sexy, but maybe too sweet for his own good.

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18 hours ago, Archangel said:

To paraphrase the advice all over this forum when arranging an appointment, be it massage, quickie, overnight, or travel, you need to be clear about expectations. Otherwise, you’ll be disappointed. If I wanted a full service massage, I would ask. And if the masseur was cagey about it, I’d likely move on. There are other providers with less hangups that could overshadow time together. 

As a provider, i have to do what I can to keep myself safe. especially when the number is unknown and they come straight out asking for happy ending.  There ARE PLENTY OF signs to indicate what I OFFER. but I won't straight up admit to prostitution. 

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Clients are wary of being taken advantage of. They don’t want to waste their time and money on masseurs unwilling to meet their needs.

I get it, law enforcement is a real concern.  Clients hiring what they want is also a real concern. US laws make for an inefficient market. There is no perfect solution.

Accept the clients you feel comfortable seeing. Decline the ones you don’t. There is no standardized way to communicate about our services, nor is there a standardized way to offer them. You can’t ask the market to conform to your preferences regarding communication up front. It’s a fool’s errand. Some clients are more forward, some less so. Good luck changing that in either direction.

Until we in the US have more sensible laws concerning sex work, we providers unfortunately must navigate the murky world of communication about sex work services, making our own calls about who we see. It sucks, but it is what it is.

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