MikeBiDude Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Moderator comment: the moderators have received a few reports on this thread. Let’s be sure and discuss this topic in a non-political manner, and try and avoid any attacks against other posters or hateful comments. Moderators are following this topic/thread. Cooper, CuriousByNature, Beancounter and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I hadn’t realized until now that O.J. and I were the same age. And while prostate cancer got him in the end, it hit me at 59 and I beat it. Back at the time of the trial, I had a young roommate who was an escort and looked after my dog when I was travelling on business, which was a monthly occurrence. I remember on the day of the verdict, we were watching it live on TV and he bet me O.J. would get off. I was in disbelief when the verdict came down. Later I realized I was basing my judgement from the vantage point of my privileged white upper economic and social status. People who felt oppressed by the system didn’t see things the same way. My roommate was a good looking kid in his early 20’s who was learning how to exploit the system despite his lack of education and other advantages. He moved out when he found an elderly sugar daddy to move in with and he no longer had to pay rent to me. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 58 minutes ago, Luv2play said: I remember on the day of the verdict, we were watching it live on TV and he bet me O.J. would get off. I was in disbelief when the verdict came down. Later I realized I was basing my judgement from the vantage point of my privileged white upper economic and social status. People who felt oppressed by the system didn’t see things the same way. I think it's a really good point you raise about our perspectives being based on the various types of privilege we experience - both those we are aware of and those we might not be aware of at the time. I understand that many people saw this case as being bigger than an accused person and two fatalities, and that it represented something deeper in their hearts and minds. But my thoughts keep coming back to the victims and their families. I can only imagine how painful it must be to lose family members, and then watch as a jury of hundreds of millions of people weigh in on the possible guilt or innocence of the accused. And then to realize that a majority of people believed in the guilt of the accused, but that many of those were still satisfied with the verdict because of what it meant in a much larger, historical-sociological context. The context and loss for the Simpson and Goldman families was much more personal, but they were the ones who had to bear the burden of historic wrongs when OJ was acquitted. Marc in Calif and + Charlie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 And on a much, much, lighter note.... Q. What does John Elway have in common with OJ's getaway vehicle? A. They are both slow-moving, white Broncos. BTC wsc, + WilliamM, + DERRIK and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I read in the NYT today that as a result of Nicole Simpson’s death many improvements were made in California and other jurisdictions to deal with spousal abuse and intimate partner violence. Reviewing the case and its particulars I don’t think Maureen Dowd got it right by comparing it to Othello. This was more than jealousy, it was about a person with controlling behaviour and a penchant for violence. Here in Canada some jurisdictions are declaring domestic violence an epidemic. Whether that will lead to better outcomes remains to be seen. It is a daunting task to control someone’s behavior when they show a willingness to kill their spouses and then themselves. There is little that can deter that kind of behavior imo. Marc in Calif and Jarrod_Uncut 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod_Uncut Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2024 at 7:06 PM, Luv2play said: it was about a person with controlling behaviour and a penchant for violence. Here in Canada some jurisdictions are declaring domestic violence an epidemic. Whether that will lead to better outcomes remains to be seen. It is a daunting task to control someone’s behavior when they show a willingness to kill their spouses and then themselves. There is little that can deter that kind of behavior imo. That sounds very familiar, kinda like…the gay scene. Ha. Who woulda thought. Go to a gay bar on any given busy night, you’ll see somebody bashing it out with their partner. I’ve seen it first hand. They probably aren’t going killer style with it but, it exists. Not that I’m diluting the events that occurred, but I don’t buy into the frenzies because it’s people dealing with that stuff all the time and nothing gets done. The whole OJ thing was bigger than race. It was a turning point. Like one poster earlier said, it paved the way for the general fascination of courtroom drama and even stuff like “forensic files”, all stuff that I googled…many of those shows first premiered in the mid 90s after the trial. Fox News True Crime Newsletter: OJ Simpson death, murder trial started fascination of courtroom drama APPLE.NEWS Stay up to date with the Fox News True Crime Newsletter, which brings you the latest cases ripped from the... Moderator’s note. This message has been edited. Political content removed. + Charlie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welshman Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 When the story was reported in the United Kingdom, it was handled by the BBC's entertainment reporter (as he was best known in the UK for the Naked Gun series of films) but the main focus was the criminal trial where the BBC reported he was found not gulity in the main trial, but guility in a civil lawsuit. pubic_assistance and Marc in Calif 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luv2play Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, Welshman said: When the story was reported in the United Kingdom, it was handled by the BBC's entertainment reporter (as he was best known in the UK for the Naked Gun series of films) but the main focus was the criminal trial where the BBC reported he was found not gulity in the main trial, but guility in a civil lawsuit. That says quite a bit, doesn’t it. When spousal abuse and violence mostly affects women (the odd case can be a man as victim), and it is treated by the media as an entertainment story, the situation is not going to be treated in a sensitive way that leads to a true understanding by the public of what is going on. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ FrankR Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Now that OJ has passed, all those Non Disclosure Agreements are no longer in force. Keep an eye out - I am sure we will hear more about his “exploits”; especially those that happened pre-trial and never made the light of day. Marc in Calif and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 A few “degree of separation” things: -back in my “straight” days, my then gf worked for PepsiCo and we had a luxe day at the 1988 Rose Bowl. OJ was sitting in the row in front of us and we had a very brief and pleasant conversation with him pre-game. I believe USC lost to the Big Ten opponent. -in the early 90’s I dated a girl from the neighborhood whose best friend in high school was Denise Brown, Nicole’s sister. For 21 years I lived about a mile from the Browns’ house in Monarch Bay in south OC. -I bumped into Fred Goldman while he was working in the mens’ department at Nordstrom in Fashion Square, Scottsdale thomas, + FrankR, + azdr0710 and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Charlie Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 4 hours ago, Pensant said: A few “degree of separation” things: -back in my “straight” days, my then gf worked for PepsiCo and we had a luxe day at the 1988 Rose Bowl. OJ was sitting in the row in front of us and we had a very brief and pleasant conversation with him pre-game. I believe USC lost to the Big Ten opponent. -in the early 90’s I dated a girl from the neighborhood whose best friend in high school was Denise Brown, Nicole’s sister. For 21 years I lived about a mile from the Browns’ house in Monarch Bay in south OC. -I bumped into Fred Goldman while he was working in the mens’ department at Nordstrom in Fashion Square, Scottsdale Yesterday I was playing tennis with an elderly white married couple from L.A. whom I have known for several years, who spent much of the time between games reminiscing about their social experiences with O.J. before the murders. They thought he was an extremely pleasant and intelligent man, and were shocked by the murders, although they had no trouble accepting the claim that he was guilty. + WilliamM, + FreshFluff, + Pensant and 6 others 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 6 hours ago, Charlie said: Yesterday I was playing tennis with an elderly white married couple from L.A. whom I have known for several years, who spent much of the time between games reminiscing about their social experiences with O.J. before the murders. They thought he was an extremely pleasant and intelligent man, and were shocked by the murders, although they had no trouble accepting the claim that he was guilty. They probably didn't know him well + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 4/12/2024 at 1:09 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said: At the end of the day, it was a family dispute that turned sensational. OJ didn’t go out and kill some person at random. So by your logic is wasn't so bad because he just killed his wife (and a friend)? 🤔 + BOZO T CLOWN, + augustus, BSR and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Simpson died the same day as the.man who invented his signature Avis ad on TV Wow pubic_assistance and samhexum 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike carey Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Spooky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ augustus Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 First it was reported that Simpson died surrounded by family. Now it's reported he died with one person with him. Probably his attorney, who is paid by the hour to do so. + Charlie and + BOZO T CLOWN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSR Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 Fred Goldman said as recently as 2 years ago that his family had yet to receive a cent of the settlement that OJ owed them. I wonder if they and Nicole Brown's family will get anything now. marylander1940, pubic_assistance and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, BSR said: Fred Goldman said as recently as 2 years ago that his family had yet to receive a cent of the settlement that OJ owed them. I wonder if they and Nicole Brown's family will get anything now. Simpson's entire estate should go to the Goldman and Brown families. NOT a PENNY to anyone else. Surely this blood-thirsty lawyer wants HIS share. His vehemence and greed is astounding! The Goldman and Brown families should receive every penny O.J. had. O.J.'s children merely get his legacy: An outstanding athlete, a Hertz TV commercial, a couple of mediocre movies, and a MURDERER. BTC + augustus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 5 hours ago, augustus said: First it was reported that Simpson died surrounded by family. Now it's reported he died with one person with him. Probably his attorney, who is paid by the hour to do so. pubic_assistance and + augustus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, BSR said: Fred Goldman said as recently as 2 years ago that his family had yet to receive a cent of the settlement that OJ owed them. I wonder if they and Nicole Brown's family will get anything now. 26 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: Simpson's entire estate should go to the Goldman and Brown families. NOT a PENNY to anyone else. Surely this blood-thirsty lawyer wants HIS share. His vehemence and greed is astounding! The Goldman and Brown families should receive every penny O.J. had. O.J.'s children merely get his legacy: An outstanding athlete, a Hertz TV commercial, a couple of mediocre movies, and a MURDERER. BTC AGREED! + augustus and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ nycman Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 6 hours ago, marylander1940 said: AGREED! While MLK did indeed write that in his "Letter from Birmingham Jail", the phrase and concept go back much further. At least the 1800s….. Justice delayed is justice denied - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG marylander1940, + azdr0710, + Charlie and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 2 minutes ago, nycman said: While MLK did indeed write that in his "Letter from Birmingham Jail", the phrase and concept go back much further. At least the 1800s….. Justice delayed is justice denied - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG He's the one who certainly made it even more famous and most folks associate it with him until they google it and find out the truth. Let's go back to subject... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 17 hours ago, marylander1940 said: Let's go back to subject... Perhaps we have given Mr Simpson enough attention marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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