Lack of reviews a problem?

[+ keroscenefire]

Since RM made it so only paid memberships can review, the number of reviews has gone down drastically. There are new guys in Denver who go months without any reviews and many more that have only one review with profiles that have been around for nearly a year. 

I'm curious if there's any newer escorts (or escorts with new RM profiles) who've struggled with getting new clients because of the lack of reviews. And to clients, do you now take the lack of reviews with an even more grain of salt than you did previously? 

 

[big-n-tall]

If a "new" guy interests me, I do my best to research him... mainly to find out if he's an actual person escorting and not a scam. In the past I'd come here for whatever info I could garner and read the reviews I could find, if any. However, then as in now, a lack of reviews never stopped me from hiring someone. 

[NJF]

If the provider is relatively new, I don’t really care about the number of reviews. However, I would stay away from an established provider who started advertising several year’s ago but had only a few reviews. 

[+ APPLE1]

I've always taken the stellar reviews on rentmen, especially in a huge volume, with a grain of salt. I say that mainly because there are established providers who I continue to see (some in Denver) who have been on the site for 15-20 years and have only 15-20 reviews. At best, that's an avg of 1.3 per year.

That provider may have had only 1 review the first year.  Solely based upon the numbers, it may be a bad bet. However, when I consider that I had a great session, never left a review there, and other members here have given a great review, it really challenges the amount faith I can put in the just those numbers.

[ShortCutie7]

There’s also the whole Yelp theory that people are more inclined to bother writing a review if it’s negative.

[marylander1940]

Can we put together all past, present and future threads on the subject of guys without RM reviews? 

[soloyo215]

That's a shitty move from RM, but I guess as a company that advertises hustling, why not joining it.

I never trust reviews individually. I pay more attention to themes I find in reviews, that is, things that I see repeated multiple times. Number of reviews could be for many reasons, change of accounts, type of clients, etc.

For a new provider I think it's always a little bit of a struggle to establish themselves as a reliable ecort. I don't necessarily care about how many reviews.

[marylander1940]

8 minutes ago, ShortCutie7 said:

There’s also the whole Yelp theory that people are more inclined to bother writing a review if it’s negative.

Possibly... but on here it's so easy to snap at someone posting something about them, obviously a review takes more time and effort. 

[Simon Suraci]

13 hours ago, NJF said:

If the provider is relatively new, I don’t really care about the number of reviews. However, I would stay away from an established provider who started advertising several year’s ago but had only a few reviews. 

That would be me, at least on RentMen. I have fewer clients from RentMen and more clients hiring me for massage in the usual places. I offer deli services too though, and have a great many satisfied and returning clients. You would never know that from my RentMen reviews alone. I have more reviews on RentMasseur, my Booksy website, and some posted other places.

With all the red tape on the client end it’s no wonder people aren’t writing reviews as much as they used to. Of those, a lot of clients are not very descriptive when they do write something. “I had a good time”, things like that. It’s harder to get reviews now than ever. Plus I am relatively new on RentMen, only since 2022 - not that much time to gather reviews.

I offer no benefits or incentives to clients for writing reviews, so that puts me at a lower amount than some others who do. All this to say: you can’t make assumptions on provider quality, reliability, experience, or other factors based on number of reviews on one platform alone. There’s more going on in many cases.

[+ keroscenefire]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Can we put together all past, present and future threads on the subject of guys without RM reviews? 

I was actually more curious about if the recent RM changes causing a lack of reviews is a problem for both escorts and clients knowing that it's RM that's the problem. Not necessarily for any specific escorts. 

[56harrisond]

4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Can we put together all past, present and future threads on the subject of guys without RM reviews? 

 

Some review-related discussions:

 

 

 

[Jay DC]

I have always approached r/m reviews with a grain of salt. The odd questions they ask reveal little about an actual encounter. I was excited to figure out how to read the narrative part but found the overwhelming number of cloying accounts not to be very helpful either—“I never knew what love was until I met xyz”.  Lots of reviews also don’t necessarily equal lots of insight. I was looking at someone who had many reviews but there were 22 (yes I counted) from the same person. Many reviews but, as it turns out, only from three different people. I do look at who leaves reviews because there are a few who I know and a few whose narratives are genuinely insightful. If they endorse a provider then I’m good to go. I also do a search here to see if they have been discussed and that has been more helpful. I’ve had a great time with providers with no reviews but I do tend to book those with at least one review.  
 

I’m also a little relieved not to be able to leave reviews on r/m any more. I once had a client of a provider reach out to me demanding I compensate him for a bad appointment he had with someone I had reviewed well. He said if it hadn’t been for my review he would not have booked the appointment. And another time, I gave a four star review and then had some guy reached out to me demanding I retract my review, apologize and not slander the provider who “is the best that’s ever been”. He sent  me a questionnaire he wanted me to fill out so that he and the provider’s other fans could see where I went wrong. And if I didn’t comply, I’d pay the price. This wasn’t from the provider. It felt like someone trying to curry favor with the provider. On a four-star review! I contacted r/m and they shut down his account. 
 

reviews can be a good resource but they can’t determine chemistry. And just because I had a great time with a provider doesn’t mean everyone will. I put more stock in what a potential provider has written in his profile and how he communicates. I try to be very clear about what I’m looking for, where and when-all in the first message. I’m serious about hiring and don’t use the communication as part of the decision making process. They don’t have to interview for my position. Although I’m a talker, I try to get an appointment booked in three texts or less using as few words as possible. These guys are busy and don’t need lots of questions from me spread out over dozens of texts or email. Having said that, there have been a few times where the communication has steered me away from someone. I just tell them my plans have changed and apologize for wasting their time. I’ve only gotten a few negative responses back but I can live with being called a flake if it doesn’t feel right. I sometimes get questions from them but they have to do their due diligence also so I don’t mind. And while I’m glad not to leave reviews, I would feel obligated to get the word out if I ever felt threatened, cheated or unsafe with a provider. I’m  lucky that has never been the case. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

1 hour ago, Jay DC said:

I’m also a little relieved not to be able to leave reviews on r/m any more. I once had a client of a provider reach out to me demanding I compensate him for a bad appointment he had with someone I had reviewed well. He said if it hadn’t been for my review he would not have booked the appointment. And another time, I gave a four star review and then had some guy reached out to me demanding I retract my review, apologize and not slander the provider who “is the best that’s ever been”. He sent  me a questionnaire he wanted me to fill out so that he and the provider’s other fans could see where I went wrong. And if I didn’t comply, I’d pay the price. This wasn’t from the provider. It felt like someone trying to curry favor with the provider. On a four-star review! I contacted r/m and they shut down his account. 

Good move, and more appropriate than my response. My reaction to when a provider confronted me about a bad review was simply a variation of STFU followed by a block. You try to rip me off, you pay.

[nate_sf]

13 hours ago, APPLE1 said:

I've always taken the stellar reviews on rentmen, especially in a huge volume, with a grain of salt. I say that mainly because there are established providers who I continue to see (some in Denver) who have been on the site for 15-20 years and have only 15-20 reviews. At best, that's an avg of 1.3 per year.

As a provider, I never ask for or solicit reviews, and my numbers are in that same range. My RM profile has been active since December 2015 and I've received a total of 15 reviews, which works out to about 1.8 reviews per year. I greatly value these reviews, but they've come on their own, and I appreciate it when clients want to share their experience with others. However my business model does not rely on them.

That begs the question, would I have more business if I solicited reviews? I can't answer that. But at least from the perspective of a provider who does not solicit or rely on reviews, the changes to RM's policies don't appear to have had any impacts on my business.

My sense for new guys would be that their newness would overcome any issues with having few if any reviews. Presumably they'll attract clients who don't care about reviews. But I'm just guessing.

[Pd1_jap]

Is having a premium membership really worth it? How safe is their database? If they have my real name and credit card info isn't that a huge liability?

[NJF]

13 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

 Plus I am relatively new on RentMen, only since 2022 - not that much time to gather reviews.

You fall into the category of new providers lol. There were providers joined the RM back in 2014 and had just a few reviews. 

[+ keroscenefire]

9 hours ago, nate_sf said:

As a provider, I never ask for or solicit reviews, and my numbers are in that same range. My RM profile has been active since December 2015 and I've received a total of 15 reviews, which works out to about 1.8 reviews per year. I greatly value these reviews, but they've come on their own, and I appreciate it when clients want to share their experience with others. However my business model does not rely on them.

That begs the question, would I have more business if I solicited reviews? I can't answer that. But at least from the perspective of a provider who does not solicit or rely on reviews, the changes to RM's policies don't appear to have had any impacts on my business.

My sense for new guys would be that their newness would overcome any issues with having few if any reviews. Presumably they'll attract clients who don't care about reviews. But I'm just guessing.

Thanks this is helpful and interesting. I had a sense that the number of reviews is declining because of RM changes. It probably is but it also sounds like a lot of providers just don't get reviews very often. Thanks you for your perspective on this. 

[pubic_assistance]

18 hours ago, Jay DC said:

reviews can be a good resource but they can’t determine chemistry. And just because I had a great time with a provider doesn’t mean everyone will.

👏 thank you !

I don't understand why so many people don't "get" that.

I have had multiple gentlemen from C.o.M. ask me sexual questions about Masseurs. My answer is always YMMV

Escorts are not machines and masseurs aren't even escorts and no matter how good of an actor any of them may be...CHEMISTRY is going to vary from case to case.

[Simon Suraci]

6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

CHEMISTRY is going to vary from case to case

This is my opinion here, not speaking for anyone else:

Mutual physical attraction is not a prerequisite to good chemistry.

I’ve had excellent chemistry with conventionally unattractive men, and zero (if not negative) chemistry with conventionally attractive 10s. Also the reverse, and everything inbetween. We are more than our bodies and our looks. There is something spiritual and special about intimate contact with another human being that transcends the way we look. Good chemistry flows from that connection.

Feel free @pubic_assistance to disagree and I will agree to disagree. I am familiar with how strongly physical attraction factors into your hiring experience, and that’s fine for you. This is my perspective in light of my experience, without regard to how others see things. Physical attraction certainly can help fuel chemistry, but it’s not the end-all-be-all.

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said:

Feel free @pubic_assistance to disagree and I will agree to disagree. I am familiar with how strongly physical attraction factors into your hiring

Yes. I do hire because I am able to meet people who are better looking than I may be able to snag on my own, now that I'm over 50....but...

..that said. I absolutely agree that chemistry goes beyond looks.

I always tell people and this is the honest to God's truth: The hottest looking person I ever slept with was probably the most disappointing sex I've ever had.  And someone who I had initially rejected because they weren't "hot enough" ended up being some of the hottest sex I ever had. 

So..I agree. Chemistry is important

 

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[JamesB]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

The hottest looking person I ever slept with was probably the most disappointing sex I've ever had.  And someone who I had initially rejected because they weren't "hot enough" ended up being some of the hottest sex I ever had. 

This perfectly sums up my experience.