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12 hours ago, APPLE1 said:

Don't providers automatically assume that? I assume that no matter what is being purchased most people check out the options.

No No.  Absolutely not.  Glad you asked.  I don't know if I'm arrogant....ok, I do know that I'm arrogant :-)  And so if I get a message from someone, if they dont' say they are simultaneously reaching out to many, I assume they want me specifically, for whatever crazy reason :-)

But if they say their window is short and so they are messaging multiple people RIGHT NOW then I know I'm one of many.  Does that make sense Apple?

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4 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

No No.  Absolutely not.  Glad you asked.  I don't know if I'm arrogant....ok, I do know that I'm arrogant :-)  And so if I get a message from someone, if they dont' say they are simultaneously reaching out to many, I assume they want me specifically, for whatever crazy reason :-)

But if they say their window is short and so they are messaging multiple people RIGHT NOW then I know I'm one of many.  Does that make sense Apple?

Yes, and I appreciate the explanation and thought process.

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I don’t have a specific time to wait. I’ll reach out to multiple people as it’s rare I'm looking for a specific person, more looking to fill a specific schedule, and I like to have options. 

Took me a while to realize in the early days that providers don’t have dedicated 24/7 call centers servicing them so I don’t mind the varied response times - as long as we don’t get into the dynamic of them expecting me to be immediately responsive when they choose to engage, and that it should turn into a booking no matter what. 

If any only reply after I’ve made other plans, I’ll either politely decline or say now won’t work maybe later (and if they show fury at that, they go on the crossed out list). And if they’re reasonable I may even engage a little with full disclosure I’m getting info for the next time and it saves back and forth if there is a next time.

 

 

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On 2/24/2024 at 9:46 PM, nycman said:

I used to be a "wait 24 hours" guy.

But after looking back and doing the math, I figured out if a guy hasn’t responded in 2 to 3 hours he’s either not going to or it’s not worth it.

And guys who respond will immediately get my attention fast. They’re almost always worth it.

I get that in your experience if he doesn't respond in 2-3 hours he's not likely to, not that I can explain why that might be, I don't understand the last part of that sentence, nor the next graph.  The escorts who respond in SHORTEST order in your experience prove more "worth it" because why? 

What is it, apart from the obvious of being constantly on-call call boys, that makes them seem best DURING THE SESSION as opposed to those (of us) who are on our own time?

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It depends. If I’m feeling frisky, sometimes I wait for an hour and if he doesn’t respond then I move on. But if I’m planning ahead and want to do a longer session I normally give them 12 hour courtesy window. After 12 hours I assume they are not interested and move on. 

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On 3/27/2024 at 12:21 PM, Rod Hagen said:

But if they say their window is short and so they are messaging multiple people RIGHT NOW then I know I'm one of many. 

And as a provider, how do you view and treat potential clients who say that?

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7 hours ago, Rod Hagen said:

I get that in your experience if he doesn't respond in 2-3 hours he's not likely to, not that I can explain why that might be, I don't understand the last part of that sentence, nor the next graph.  The escorts who respond in SHORTEST order in your experience prove more "worth it" because why? 

What is it, apart from the obvious of being constantly on-call call boys, that makes them seem best DURING THE SESSION as opposed to those (of us) who are on our own time?

I think you may have taken what I said the wrong way, maybe not. 

You’ve attached causation where I merely noted an association.

He’s not "more worth it" because he responded promptly. Nonetheless I my experience, men who take their business seriously tend to respond promptly and that professionalism often carries over into an amazing performance when we’re together. Does that make sense?

Obviously they’re not 100% tied together, but in over 20 years of hiring I have noticed an association. If I have to chase anyone down to commit to a time and place, I usually regret it in the end.  I’m a straight forward man who respects other people’s time/energy/money, and I expect the same in return. It’s the same with boyfriends, friends, co-workers, escorts, employees and bosses. If I’m the one doing all the heavy lifting, I better off with someone else.

Yes, flakes occasionally respond promptly and sometimes the man of my dreams takes a little while to respond. You know, "box of chocolates" and all that crap. I mean Hell, I’ve been trying to get you to commit to dinner at Le Bernardin for decades, but hope springs eternal…….grin

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17 minutes ago, nycman said:

He’s not "more worth it" because he responded promptly. Nonetheless I my experience, men who take their business seriously tend to respond promptly and that professionalism often carries over into an amazing performance when we’re together. Does that make sense?

 

It makes sense that it makes sense to your experience, and maybe to most folk's experience, it just doesn't gel as well w/my feelings toward the business.  In any non-emergency business,  I associate a snap-response to snapping fingers as either weak or desperate. I regard escorts available on-demand as desperate and clients giving escorts two hours to respond as bossy.  I'm not saying it's a rational perspective, I'm not saying it probably hasn't cost me a lot of business through the decades, what I now see I am saying is I hate even the hint of being told what to do.

---> dinner at Le Bernardin for decades, but hope springs eternal…….grin

OR a meal at Musso and Frank's!  :-)

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On 2/24/2024 at 8:18 AM, marylander1940 said:

I would expect an explanation about why it took him so long.

 

If you'd hired him and he was really late, then I'd get requesting an explanation. 

But your not his boss and, on top of that, you haven't even hired him yet for your tryst, so why insist you're owed an explanation from the "pokey" escort about what you see as a delayed response? 

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't understand two things:  1. Why presume the escort is obligated to tell you "why it took him so long" and 2. what does his responding within your timeline have to do with him being good or bad at sucking your cock, or going to dinner, or whatever?

And this is a broader question for everyone, how does the escort being on-demand-responsive relate to his likely performance during the meeting?  

 

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Once when visiting London, I sent out a number of inquires for the next few days. Out of say 3, 2 responded and I was able to book them for the day and next. For 3rd day I sent out 2 more inquires. 3rd guy finally responds after >24hours. I politely mention I have plans already as I had responses to my second batch inquires. Guy freaks out saying I'm wasting his time even though I only had sent out one enquiry and had waited >24 hours and had moved on.

Usually in a city like London I find I get about a 30% non response rate. Some legit say a few days later that they were out of time. I apologize then saying I was only in town briefly so maybe next time.

Next visit to London I'm only in town for 2.5 days. Wondering what's too soon to book ahead? 

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4 hours ago, Jeff Meuller said:

Next visit to London I'm only in town for 2.5 days. Wondering what's too soon to book ahead? 

Depends on the provider. IMO a 'good' profile gives some indication of the provider's preference eg "2 or 3 days advance notice preferred, occasionally available at shorter notice".  Many variations on the the theme, in particular some work with same-day bookings only. If not mentioned in a provider's profile - ask!

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On 3/30/2024 at 11:23 PM, nycman said:

... men who take their business seriously tend to respond promptly and that professionalism often carries over into [the quality of the session].

A provider who has turned on the "Available Now" indicator on his profile is raising the expectations of potential clients.  He then has the opportunity to demonstrate his professionalism by responding to phone calls promptly (within half an hour is good, over an hour unimpressive). and by willingness to schedule an appointment that same day, within a few hours (i.e. not "I'm free this evening" to a morning enquiry).

I'm always impressed when a provider ticks both boxes, the more so if their call back shows that they've taken a short break from what they're doing to call back (e.g. "I'm at the gym atm, I'll be home around [time] and can see you from [time]").  I don't read desperation into this - keenness perhaps, and I don't see a keen provider as any bad thing!

What is NOT impressive is a provider with "Available Now" showing on their profile in the morning, who rings back several hours later on their lunch break from their day job, and offers an appointment that evening.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Jeff Meuller said:

Wondering what's too soon to book ahead?

To your point, every provider is different. Some prefer same day only because clients are less likely to flake. I don’t find this to be true.

Booking same day is a gamble. When he’s with a client, he can’t respond promptly, and maybe he can’t take a second or third client that same day anyway.

A few days notice should be fine for most. It gives time for the provider to finish with a client or whatever they are doing and get back to you same day or usually within 24 hrs. We have to plan our days to be realistic. Maybe two appointments per day spread out between morning and evening. It depends on what you need and how your guy works.

 

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