Extortion advice?

[DWnyc]

On 10/22/2023 at 2:38 PM, MikeBiDude said:

I've never had a provider NOT return a call/text from my iPhone burner app. Never. But the Burner does prevent  provider's rants if things don't work out.

Same experience (never really had a provider not return a call) and most people I’ve discussed this with use burners. It’s more like duh, why would you do anything else? 

And btw @JTtorretto many if not most  providers I know also use burners. Similarly I would expect nothing else. Given that many providers sometimes disappear and reappear, often with new profiles and names and numbers, something tells me they must have good reasons to use burners themselves. 

 

[robberbaron4u]

Does anyone have any knowledge as to what has become of Danny, the escort of reference, in this matter? Having had a brief acquaintance with him, I was aware that he had "issues" for which he had sought professional counselling apart from having endured a wretched home life. 

[+ azdr0710]

20 minutes ago, robberbaron4u said:

Does anyone have any knowledge as to what has become of Danny, the escort of reference, in this matter? Having had a brief acquaintance with him, I was aware that he had "issues" for which he had sought professional counselling apart from having endured a wretched home life. 

I believe "Danny" is a London provider who was attempting to blackmail @secgoo ......the provider extorting @Rgsnva , the original thread subject, is not the same

[robberbaron4u]

19 minutes ago, azdr0710 said:

I believe "Danny" is a London provider who was attempting to blackmail @secgoo ......the provider extorting @Rgsnva , the original thread subject, is not the same

Yes, thank you for the clarification and amplification as to the particular provider. In my own experience with him, I did not have any "problems". I know that, having been "stiffed" on his fee and marooned on Ibiza, he had become very wary of clients' representations to him.  Too, as noted, he had a rather bad "shake" in life. And, yes, I know "who hasn't". Nonetheless, I came across a thank you note he had written to me, a small gesture, and, I was given to wondering what had become of him. 

[secgoo]

Danny/Dillon/EnglishKnight/KnightBoy is still actively trying to blackmail/extort money from people. 

I still have users of this forum message me directly for advice, one guy as recently as this weekend.

On Saturday I discovered the solicitor who has previously dealt with Danny so my advice has now changed to contact this solicitor...

Tim Thompson - Kangs Criminal Defence Solicitors | VAT & Tax Solicitors

WWW.KANGSSOLICITORS.CO.UK

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Tim is a Partner and the Head of the Tax Litigation Team at Kangs Solicitors. An experienced litigation solicitor, Tim...

 

 

[secgoo]

Also, Danny/Dylan/KnightBoy/EnglishKnight is a member of this forum with multiple accounts (not just the two accounts he used to defend himself when I posted my original warning about him). He is using these accounts to harass members of this forum so my advice on that topic is to message the moderators in this channel...

https://www.companyofmen.org/forum/127-ask-a-moderator/

[SouthOfTheBorder]

On 10/12/2023 at 4:29 AM, Peter Eater said:

It is one thing to say the situation sounds odd, and pose questions because of it. It’s another to say the story “doesn’t pass the smell test.” Translation: You’re a liar.

there are many things posted in this forum that “don’t pass the smell test” - and it’s usually obvious. 
For the clients here that have long history of hiring, or providers with years of experience - it’s easy to spot stories that don’t make sense, are a one-sided version of events, or just absurd statements/questions not based in reality.  

As for contacting lawyers - bad advice & costly. A simple letter from a lawyer can cost $3500 and it’s just that - a letter.  Going beyond a letter will get expensive quick at $350 - $700 per hour. Restraining orders are not simple things to get and that’s even more money.  Maybe filing a police report would help, but the police will want to know the exact circumstances of meeting the blackmailer & number of times meeting the person. Lying to the police is terrible advice - when they figure out the truth (and they will), then the complaint will be completely discredited. 

While vast majority of providers would never blackmail - it’s always a good idea to limit the personal information disclosed.  Providers usually do the same unless they have public social media in their real names.  One of the main reasons to hire is to keep things private & discreet.  

[secgoo]

Indeed it can be costly but I know of a client on this forum that has been blackmailed into sending nearly £2000 to a provider (they never met).

Seeking legal advice is totally dependent on the personal circumstances and financial situation.

[SouthOfTheBorder]

2 minutes ago, secgoo said:

Seeking legal advice is totally dependent on the personal circumstances and financial situation.

exactly correct.  

However, it’s usually people with very little experience with lawyers that are quick to recommend getting a lawyer.  The first thing they always offer is a letter & that can mean nothing in a legal context, except if it’s a Cease & Desist.  Beyond that, it’s filing an actual lawsuit and that is completely unrealistic in the circumstances described. 

In my professional life, I worked with dozens of lawyers on every subject imaginable. It’s never quick, easy or inexpensive- even for obvious egregious basic things.  
Lawyers are in the business to make money - not get justice served. Even if you happen to find an honest attorney interested in offering real help, it’s still insanely expensive.

 

[robberbaron4u]

3 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said:

there are many things posted in this forum that “don’t pass the smell test” - and it’s usually obvious. 
For the clients here that have long history of hiring, or providers with years of experience - it’s easy to spot stories that don’t make sense, are a one-sided version of events, or just absurd statements/questions not based in reality.  

As for contacting lawyers - bad advice & costly. A simple letter from a lawyer can cost $3500 and it’s just that - a letter.  Going beyond a letter will get expensive quick at $350 - $700 per hour. Restraining orders are not simple things to get and that’s even more money.  Maybe filing a police report would help, but the police will want to know the exact circumstances of meeting the blackmailer & number of times meeting the person. Lying to the police is terrible advice - when they figure out the truth (and they will), then the complaint will be completely discredited. 

While vast majority of providers would never blackmail - it’s always a good idea to limit the personal information disclosed.  Providers usually do the same unless they have public social media in their real names.  One of the main reasons to hire is to keep things private & discreet.  

Odd? Yes, indeed. Very "funny". Funny " peculiar", not funny "ha ha".

[robberbaron4u]

5 hours ago, secgoo said:

Danny/Dillon/EnglishKnight/KnightBoy is still actively trying to blackmail/extort money from people. 

I still have users of this forum message me directly for advice, one guy as recently as this weekend.

On Saturday I discovered the solicitor who has previously dealt with Danny so my advice has now changed to contact this solicitor...

Tim Thompson - Kangs Criminal Defence Solicitors | VAT & Tax Solicitors

WWW.KANGSSOLICITORS.CO.UK

---

Tim is a Partner and the Head of the Tax Litigation Team at Kangs Solicitors. An experienced litigation solicitor, Tim...

 

 

This solicitor's specialty is white collar, corporate crime in the capacity of a defense man. Given that position in the game, he would be defending Danny. 

[secgoo]

I don't know his reasons for doing what he's done previously, I'm just passing on the company info for someone who has helped another victim 

[LookingAround]

So much misinformation in this thread. Non-lawyers crowing as if they know everything and with certitude. 
If you are the victim of serious extortion you need a good attorney. Often criminal defense attorneys represent victims as well. 
Find a really good attorney and go from there. 

[JTtorretto]

On 11/16/2023 at 6:46 PM, LookingAround said:

So much misinformation in this thread. Non-lawyers crowing as if they know everything and with certitude. 
If you are the victim of serious extortion you need a good attorney. Often criminal defense attorneys represent victims as well. 
Find a really good attorney and go from there. 

EXACTLY this... 

 

"If you are the victim of **serious extortion** you need a good attorney".

 

An example: Jarek Wentworth, who attempted to extort 1.5 million from Republican donor Donald Burns.

THAT is serious actual real extortion.  
 

An escort whos not been paid in full and is owed 200-500 (for example) is NOT "committing" "extortion" tho that word is often used by sleazy creeps trying to out hustle escorts and underpay.

[LookingAround]

Correct.