+ robear Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Porn gets made that sells to somebody, it's purely market driven, good intentions aren't gonna bring in paying subscribers. That said, there's something out there for everybody, especially in this age of post-studio era, do-it-yourself porn. I personally have always found conventional commercial porn, and the men hired to perform in it, deadly dull, of no real interest at all. I certainly have never paid for it. There's plenty of porn out there featuring performers similar to every one of the models shown at the top of this thread. (With the exception, perhaps, of the model whose features suggest Down Syndrome.) The markets for "niche" performers are obviously smaller, but they certainly exist. Somebody just revived the venerable "Bear Magazine" brand, which was seen as game-changing in the late-80s. It was the first time a commercial producer really stepped outside the presumed tastes of gay porn customers of the time, and was met with runaway success. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted September 18, 2023 Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 Bone Flexx, Sailor Blue & Aiden Storm 2 of the performers have "average" bodies by American standards. thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decatur Guy Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) While physical appearance matters to me, it's not the most important thing. I care more about the vibe, the scenario and what they're doing. Plus, I find a pretty wide variety of types attractive. I'm not hooked on a particular body shape or younger/older or one particular ethnicity, etc. So I'm all for porn casting a wider net. My ideal porno scene: Two masculine, verbal tops talking a shy, reluctant bottom into having sex and then pushing his limits. And if they happen to be "average Joes" vs. model looks, that's fine. Edited September 21, 2023 by Decatur Guy marylander1940, Boaxxx, SouthOfTheBorder and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 50 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said: That may be. But I'm not looking to sleep with everyone in the whole world. The few thousand I've attracted so far has been plenty. Similarly, I don't need to find the few escorts that are out of my price range and try to get them to discount their rate for me based on my handsome good looks. There are plenty of escorts out there. And while I've hired fewer of them in the U.S. since RentMen prices were taken down, the ones I do hire I see more often if only because I know what price to expect and what service to expect. 59 minutes ago, DWnyc said: As an aside - when I’ve seen pics of spouses of providers - or in some cases even met them - while many are indeed magazine cover gorgeous like their partner … they’ve often been surprisingly “normal” and sometimes do fall into “not good looking” / “less good looking” buckets some of us obsess over. Including obese. The kind you wouldn’t expect to say typically”I’m dating a porn star …” I'm just quoting you guys on here not to drag another thread out of subject and to bump this interesting thread. If SO many providers are truly into overweight men how come, we don't see them represented in gay porno? pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, marylander1940 said: If SO many providers are truly into overweight men how come, we don't see them represented in gay porno? Because professional pornography is made for the customer's fantasy, not the performer's 😉. Edited March 14 by Vegas_Millennial Changed provider to performer Monarchy79 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 (edited) I would personally be happy if I see more diversity when it comes to guys who don't have tattoos. Is that even possible nowadays? Edited April 29 by marylander1940 liubit and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 56 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: I would personally be happy if I see more diversity when it comes to guys who don't have tattoos. Is that even possible nowadays? I find it so funny that some people here are obsessed with tattoos. Only a little over a quarter of men have even one tattoo. Most of the guys in porn don't have any. Most of the providers don't have any. So I don't know why you and others are obsessed with the maybe half - if we adjust for generations where younger people might have more - of providers and porn stars have them. 32% of Americans have a tattoo, including 22% who have more than one WWW.PEWRESEARCH.ORG 69% of adults say they got any of their tattoos to honor or remember someone or something. 47% say they... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 35 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: I find it so funny that some people here are obsessed with tattoos. Only a little over a quarter of men have even one tattoo. Most of the guys in porn don't have any. Most of the providers don't have any. So I don't know why you and others are obsessed with the maybe half - if we adjust for generations where younger people might have more - of providers and porn stars have them. 32% of Americans have a tattoo, including 22% who have more than one WWW.PEWRESEARCH.ORG 69% of adults say they got any of their tattoos to honor or remember someone or something. 47% say they... Tattoos are more common among in shape younger guys, most pornstars have tattoos unless you only watch BelAmi. Obsessed? Is just an observation. pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 39 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Tattoos are more common among in shape younger guys, most pornstars have tattoos unless you only watch BelAmi. Off the top of my head, I can think of four providers with no tattoos who are young, and in shape. Two of them also do porn. I can understand not being into someone heavily tattooed. But if a guy has one or even a few discrete tattoos but is otherwise your type, I cannot fathom caring about it. But we're also due for the quarterly hysteria over guys wearing nail polish, so what do I know? Bokomaru and pubic_assistance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 20 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said: But we're also due for the quarterly hysteria over guys wearing nail polish, so what do I know? Yup. Count me in, on THAT one. * yuk * claym and marylander1940 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, KensingtonHomo said: But we're also due for the quarterly hysteria over guys wearing nail polish, so what do I know? Send me a link, I miss that one! pubic_assistance and + KensingtonHomo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsc Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 On 9/13/2023 at 10:35 AM, KensingtonHomo said: I prefer more average and diverse-looking guys in porn. Similar to what advertising and porn have done to women, gay men constantly pressure each other to appear like the statue of David (or better). It's very unhealthy for us, individually and collectively. As others have said, porn for many if not most men is about a fantasy, an ideal, either in terms of the situation (romance or domination, for example) or in terms of the partner (the epitome of the physical form, as in handsome or muscular or both). For myself, the same applies to the escorts I might engage because I'm not looking to pay for sex with me in a mirror. If others, as you've said of yourself, are more into realism than fantasy fulfillment, your options and opportunities are more numerous and diverse, and you may be thankful for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsc Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 On 9/15/2023 at 9:06 PM, pubic_assistance said: Porn is fantasy. I don't fantasize about the fat neighbor. He fantasizes about me. Whose been telling my secrets? thomas, pubic_assistance and MikeBiDude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pubic_assistance Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 3 hours ago, wsc said: .....everyone is somebody's type. marylander1940 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeMaybeNot Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I think of OF creators like Seattle Dad who were denied entry intomporn but found a wide audience on their own. Body positivity in porn doesn't have to embrace people who look, well, like me, but there is room for sexiness in multiple shapes and ages. Guys with tummies can be hot, guys with big bellies can be hot, guys over 60 can be really hot, guys without strong muscle definition can be hot, etc. When I think back to the best sex I've ever had, it has mostly been with average guys who couldn't make 25 cents in porn. SouthOfTheBorder, + robear, + KensingtonHomo and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippoorwill Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 I just read "Playgirl" for the stories. thomas, wsc, + Vegas_Millennial and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ nycman Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 On 9/13/2023 at 9:06 AM, marylander1940 said: Magazines for straight men and women have relatively embraced body positivity. … and they’re going bankrupt. Coincidence? wsj.com WWW.WSJ.COM pubic_assistance, + Vegas_Millennial and marylander1940 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 19 hours ago, nycman said: … and they’re going bankrupt. Coincidence? wsj.com WWW.WSJ.COM Example: Men.com: Michael Jackman and Santana XXL - Gobble That Cock - QueerClick WWW.QUEERCLICK.COM New on Men.com: When Santana XXL meets Michael Jackman, his friend’s brother-in-law, and discovers that Jackman is spying on Santana through his sweatpants... + Vegas_Millennial and pubic_assistance 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubic_assistance Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 This nightmare would make my dick hide so far up my pelvis I'd need surgery to find it again. 56harrisond, marylander1940 and + JamesB 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeMaybeNot Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) I am not saying I am attracted to this guy or want to watch his porn, but that doesn't mean he isn't a human being worthy of respect. If people want to watch him, more power to them. There is an audience for him. No need to be unkind. Edited May 4 by MaybeMaybeNot Monarchy79, + robear, + Travis69 and 4 others 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boaxxx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: This nightmare would make my dick hide so far up my pelvis I'd need surgery to find it again. Dude, you don't have to be so degrading in your comments. You can simply say that he is not your type or this coupling doesn't pique your interest or don't say anything at all. But to be cruel, it's so not necessary. SouthOfTheBorder, MikeBiDude, MaybeMaybeNot and 4 others 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) Gay porno will never embrace body positivity for the same reason why body positivity has never been embraced in the gay community overall: ALL Men are shallow. This includes “victims” of body positivity. Men of all body types want the same range of physical aesthetics (lean, righted, muscled, athletic) in a man and are very discerning about it too. Men in general (of all sexual orientations), have a sense of hipocrisy when it comes to the requirements they have for others’ appearance…. A straight man will judge women’s faces and bodies with hard critiques as he hasn’t seen a gym since middle school and can’t find his penis because his apron beer belly has been obstructing it’s view for the past 20 years. And with gay men, it’s just about the same. I remember being in a social setting when this guy was whining about his inability to find a man….. when he told me what he was looking for, I figured out why he’s having problems…. He’s searching for 10s and he’s a universal 3 at best. Edited May 4 by Monarchy79 pubic_assistance, marylander1940 and Boaxxx 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boaxxx said: Dude, you don't have to be so degrading in your comments. You can simply say that he is not your type or this coupling doesn't pique your interest or don't say anything at all. But to be cruel, it's so not necessary. What he @pubic_assistancesaid reflects the actual reality of what gay men say to themselves and to each other when they see images like this. Hard Truth: Gay men (for the most part) are mean to each other. In fact, so mean, that there are tons of social media posts, Reddit threads and discussion points on the topic. Edited May 4 by Monarchy79 pubic_assistance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchy79 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 It’s also important to understand gay porn’s foundational beginnings…. One of the first gay porn studios (it was either Colt or Falcon), had strict requirements in their films….the actors were required to be: 1.) Young 2.) Fit 3.) White (preferably blonde). And in this particular studio, if black actors performed, they either played secondary roles (as like the hotel doorman or something), of if in a sex scene, could only Top and never Bottom. 4.) Masculine presenting 5.) and the soles of their feet had to be clean (there are a lot of films (of all genres), that neglected to address this issue and would accidentally capture male performers with dirty feet. This same studio was also made aware (in advance) of the pending AIDS epidemic, didn’t inform their actors and still pressured them into condomless sex, which killed an entire generation of young porn actors. Once I find the documentary, I’ll post it here. wsc, pubic_assistance, Danny-Darko and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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