$400 is TOO MUCH

[Pd1_jap]

Many financial gurus claim to know the best economic indicators. It's usually housing, bonds or consumer discretionary. 

I personally think the escort index is the most reliable measure of the economy. 

Edited May 22, 2023 by Pd1_jap
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[+ BenjaminNicholas]

$400 is too much... For you. 

And that's fine. 

But don't speak for the entire industry, especially the working guys who can and do charge that rate without any push back. 

[coriolis888]

35 minutes ago, IamAdamRose said:

We’re in a recession & in expensive living times….. if you don't wanna pay the rate, there is plenty of other options or there is always the hookup apps where you can find it for free or go to a sex club

Seriously, every provider has a set rate & client has to respect that, if you dont like it do what I mentioned above, its that simple

 

I don't mean to be argumentative, however, the above post does not reflect reality.

The poster reminds us that we are in a big recession then goes off to offer an unrealistic alternative of going to a sex club and/or using free hook-up apps.   He further says that the provider sets his rate and that clients must accept those rates.  Again, not realistic.  

If a provider asks for too much money, most clients skip over and find a different provider.  

If too many providers ask too high a rate, and continuously gets turned down for the high rates, provider rates will come down. 

It goes both ways.  The recession hits the client and also hits the provider. 

It is just a matter of time before providers realize that their rates are out of line with reality.     

 

[+ keroscenefire]

To me the "per hour" thing is actually a bit passe at this point. I'm increasingly interested only in longer sessions including overnights. I would rather save up and do one longer session at like $1200 once every three months or so then do 4 one-hour sessions at $300 in that same time period. 

To me it's about priorities, and I'd rather prioritize an amazing longer experience with a great guy than a subpar 1 hour experience that feels rushed. 

[Moke]

5 hours ago, Milo Janus said:

San Francisco

I hope 400 doesn’t become the norm in SF, but there are lots of guys that charge less.  here are a few good ones that are 300 or less:

VersLilDevil on Rent.Men

RENT.MEN

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View my profile on Rent.Men

 

SFGoodBoy on Rent.Men

RENT.MEN

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View my profile on Rent.Men

I was going to post Max.. but he seems to be offline today-  maybe out of town?  

[IamAdamRose]

1 hour ago, coriolis888 said:

I don't mean to be argumentative, however, the above post does not reflect reality.

The poster reminds us that we are in a big recession then goes off to offer an unrealistic alternative of going to a sex club and/or using free hook-up apps.   He further says that the provider sets his rate and that clients must accept those rates.  Again, not realistic.  

If a provider asks for too much money, most clients skip over and find a different provider.  

If too many providers ask too high a rate, and continuously gets turned down for the high rates, provider rates will come down. 

It goes both ways.  The recession hits the client and also hits the provider. 

It is just a matter of time before providers realize that their rates are out of line with reality.     

 

“Unrealistic” these alternatives are not unrealistic, you have one fellow here who says he went to a bathhouse & mentioned how it made him question paying a provider… so yeah that “unrealistic” claim is a mediocre statement, & again…. Just because so & so doesnt like my rate, there is another provider who can meet his demands.for example Im a femme non binary who are in a small niche on RM so my rate is what it is because their isnt alot of providers like me.. so my rate is what it is, RM nowadays i dont do much business on mine is more TS Escorts & Mega personals but prices are all the same

Edited May 22, 2023 by IamAdamRose

[+ Tygerscent]

I guess clients can always try to drive the prices down… Then again, it’s a bit like trying to drive the prices for hotels down that used to be $150 that are now four to $600 a night, the airline tickets that used to be two and $300 that are more like six and $700 Meals that used to be $25 but are now 80…  Unfortunately, as the cost of the rest of the world goes up, so do peoples wages, and when they don’t problems arise

[+ Tygerscent]

I guess clients can always try to drive prices down… But, it’s like trying to drive prices down on the hotels that used to be $150 that are now $450 and $600 a night or the airline tickets that used to be $250 or $350 that are more like $600 and $700… or that meal in a restaurant that used to cost $25 that is more like 60 or $80 now~ (don’t forget the tip).

 No Surprise that when the prices of everything else goes up but wages don’t, problems arise~ 

Complaining that the price of gas in 1975 was $.25 a gallon and now it’s six dollars or more but you want to only pay those 1975 prices is a bit of a moot point. Its a different world now~ 
 

Edited May 22, 2023 by Tygerscent

[coriolis888]

1 hour ago, IamAdamRose said:

“Unrealistic” these alternatives are not unrealistic, you have one fellow here who says he went to a bathhouse & mentioned how it made him question paying a provider… so yeah that “unrealistic” claim is a mediocre statement, & again…. Just because so & so doesnt like my rate, there is another provider who can meet his demands.for example Im a femme non binary who are in a small niche on RM so my rate is what it is because their isnt alot of providers like me.. so my rate is what it is, RM nowadays i dont do much business on mine is more TS Escorts & Mega personals but prices are all the same

Oh, good.

 

[IamAdamRose]

32 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Oh, good.

 

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[+ Italiano]

10 hours ago, BaronArtz said:

May I say that I have, in 2023, very satisfying erotic and sexual encounters with guys in NYC in the $200-300 range.  

Same here.

To assume that $200-250 means Walmart product is a bit condescending. 

I have had a very recent fabulous experience for $200 in NYC.

And I had a mediocre for 300. As a personal principle I would never pay 400.

Edited May 22, 2023 by Italiano

[+ Coolwave35]

2 hours ago, Italiano said:

I have had a very recent fabulous experience for $200 in NYC.

Once, I got an incredible New York strip at Outback Steakhouse. 
 

Once, a piece of lasagna from Olive Garden didn’t give me diarrhea. 
 

These are anomalies, not the norm. 
 

I don’t shit on bargain shoppers. I was simply trying to acknowledge their existence. 

Edited May 22, 2023 by Coolwave35

[+ Pensant]

14 hours ago, ChasingGirth said:

I agree but most guys these days charge $400 minimum 

Not in the two places I call home. $300 for one and $500 for two. And I’m speaking super lean and cute 21-27 year olds.

[+ Pensant]

13 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

If the escort keeps his word and performs as agreed, the price is okay. 

However, too many providers spend time on their telephone while with a client. 

Many providers cannot get hard because they just finished with a previous client prior to meeting the current client.  That situation is a disservice to the client.  

I’ve never encountered this. (OK, maybe once or twice). I’m either lucky or discerning. Or they just enjoy their time with me.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

12 hours ago, BaronArtz said:

May I say that I have, in 2023, very satisfying erotic and sexual encounters with guys in NYC in the $200-300 range.  

This. In my experience, the $400/hour crew tends to be younger, ripped OF types who are generally not worth the money. Older (30s), more experienced, and generally more skilled providers tend to charge in the $250-$300 range. 

It seems to me that a lot of clients prize youth, beauty and abs over actually skilled providers, so that drives up the price of the younger guys. 

[robberbaron4u]

In my recollection, the "going" hourly rate for a "superior grade"escort in the early 1980s was $150; factoring inflation over forty years, that would be $425+/- in "today's money". There are alternatives; I passed a very pleasant holiday with a,mature escort, aged 58, who in his youth, was one of the most sought after boys in the business. He is yet very easy on the eye, and, his attentiveness to me was a " five star" experience. Cost: $500, a figure he, himself, tossed out, for a long weekend. Just sayin', so please toss no sticks and stones my way.

 

[+ Pensant]

7 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

I would rather save up and do one longer session at like $1200 once every three months or so then do 4 one-hour sessions at $300 in that same time period. 

I think that makes sense after one has established a great rapport with the provider. When I’ve done that on the first meet-up, it hasn’t generally been a great experience for me. Also, since I’m a light sleeper, I often get two queen beds since I’m not into cuddling. Even when regulars stay overnight at my place, I put them in the guest bedroom with its en suite bathroom. Surprisingly, some spur of the moment overnights are gratis since the provider is happy not to drive late at night and gets to enjoy a well-appointed guest room with a great mattress and bed linens.

[LostUpstate]

I hired 2 escorts in the past 5 months, one was $300 and in his early 30s, a Brooklyn hipster type with long hair, and the second one was a stocky, hairy Latin guy who charged $250, but I gave him $280. Both were nice guys, and the first one looked exactly like his pics. The second one was on the heavy side and didn’t look like his pics, but he performed well. 

My hiring fantasy is a porn star who also has an OF and is asking $400, but after seeing his OF and what his likes and fetishes are in his private life, I’m less tempted to hire him because I don’t think we’d be a match in the sack. He’s definitely too rough and I’m more into a BFE, which I don’t think he would even be able to provide in his own private life. It’s a turn-off because I think he looks like a cold robot in person  

So we all have choices and you just have to move on and pass on someone if they’re too expensive, or just don’t provide the experience you’re looking for. 

[cany10011]

It also helps that ATMs allow dispensing of 100 and 50s… so much easier spending than if it were 20s…

[Medin]

4 hours ago, Pensant said:

Not in the two places I call home. $300 for one and $500 for two. And I’m speaking super lean and cute 21-27 year olds.

Agreed.  I keep track of all the rates I've been quoted and currently the average rate in the Midwest if $278/hour, and that is for hot guys that are in shape with decent reviews.  (I don't usually contact any that have poor reviews or a less than stellar reputations).  That rate is based on 32 quotes since the beginning of the year.  I got tired of some escorts insisting their rates were competitive so I started keeping my own market data.  $400-$500 may be the norm on the coasts but that's not the case in the rest of the country.  

[Rod Hagen]

I certainly can't see being flabbergasted by $400/hour rate of a male escort.  There's always going to be a dollar amount for any product or service that causes one's jaw to drop. 

$10 for fresh squeezed Orange Juice is becoming standard in California Restaurants (more in fancy restaurants) and as I told one waitress who was annoyed I wanted it WITHOUT ice, "That orange juice is 1% of my rent!" That chastened her (even if maybe she secretly hates older people who sit on Rent Stabilized units) and she came back with a glass full, no ice.  

My point is, whenever my jaw starts to drop at the price of one male escort and then another, I just remember what American female professional escorts charge (if you don't know, it's MUCH more than $400/hour) and then I calm, and move on (can calm be a verb without "down"?).

Edited May 22, 2023 by Rod Hagen

[+ sf westcoaster]

There are many things that I view as being over priced, but that does not mean that there is not a market for those items. We each have a choice to buy or not buy. If an activity/item  is beyond what I am willing to pay I move on and look for a viable alternative. 

Edited May 22, 2023 by sf westcoaster

[+ azdr0710]

9 minutes ago, Rod Hagen said:

$10 for fresh squeezed Orange Juice is becoming standard in California Restaurants (more in fancy restaurants) and as I told one waitress who was annoyed I wanted it WITHOUT ice, "That orange juice is 1% of my rent!" That either took her back, or she hates old people who sit on Rent Stabilized units.  Either way, she then brought me a glass full, no ice. 

gee, I've never seen true fresh-squeezed OJ come with ice in it at a restaurant......yeah, I'd definitely request no ice......I want OJ, not water!....thank you for that reminder to check with the server about the ice policy next time!

[HoseMaster]

18 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

If you pay $400+ for an hour, I can assure you that 95% of the time you aren’t dealing with all the bullshit you mentioned. What you’ve written about sounds like a $250 an hour provider to me which is why you get what you pay for. 

Not really.  I’ve had great providers back in the days of Craigslist and Backpage that were far superior to some of the ones that charged over $300.  Even today, there’s no correlation to how much they charge to how much is delivered.

[coriolis888]

16 minutes ago, sf westcoaster said:

There are many things that I view as being over priced, but that does not mean that there is not a market for those items. We each have a choice to buy or not buy. If an activity/item  is beyond what I am willing to pay I move on and look for a viable alternative. 

There are many things that I view as being over priced, but that does not mean that there is not a SMALL market for those items.