$400 is TOO MUCH

[Milo Janus]

If you're a lawyer or a Doctor, I'm sure $400 is not a problem.  But for average Joes, this is simply highway robbery!!  There has to be a line of demarcation when enough is enough, and I say that is $300.  I get the old supply and demand side of economics, but there must be common sense.  It's just buggery, not creating new art or writing a play.  My solution (tongue and cheek, so to speak) is that customers form a union and demand LOWER fees, or we go on strike!

But seriously, guys, $300 is more than enough.

[ChasingGirth]

I agree but most guys these days charge $400 minimum 

[cany10011]

16 minutes ago, Milo Janus said:

If you're a lawyer or a Doctor, I'm sure $400 is not a problem.  But for average Joes, this is simply highway robbery!!  There has to be a line of demarcation when enough is enough, and I say that is $300.  I get the old supply and demand side of economics, but there must be common sense.  It's just buggery, not creating new art or writing a play.  My solution (tongue and cheek, so to speak) is that customers form a union and demand LOWER fees, or we go on strike!

But seriously, guys, $300 is more than enough.

Pre-pandemic, I used to balk at 300. It is high, but this is the market right now in NYC. A lot are asking for more in the 500 or 600 range. I think RM not posting rates is making it more of a sliding scale and if the provider knows where you live, he may price his services accordingly. I only pay that much for one of the my regulars as he is very generous with his time and we have really good chemistry. If he were an unknown, I'd say he would be out of his mind for asking that rate. In most places in Europe, you can get stellar service for 200 euros and an overnight for 500 to 600. 

Edited May 21, 2023 by cany10011

[Cliff]

Post 4 of a potential 6.37 kajillion replies to the OP…

Here’s what we know, guys: Escorts can charge whatever they want. We, the clients, can pay that rate or find lesser-priced escorts. Or not hire at all, and simply date our dominant hand. It’s that simple. There is no union to strike against, no Groupon deals, not even a well-endowed (ha ha) support group to shoulder the myriad emotional turmoil this financial burden may inflict upon us. Do I think $400 is a lot of money for an hour of shenanigans? Fuck yeah!  However, I prefer to look at it this way: If a hot, hunky, hairy, hung provider charges me $400 to let me have my way my him and in doing so gives me an inarguably unforgettable experience, I’m going to practically force that $400 on him and feel like my cash was well spent. And the day that splendid feeling evaporates is the day I stop hiring. Until then, I’ll continue to open my checkbook (and all of my orifices) and have the fucking time of my life. Cheers, my friends! 

[+ azdr0710]

ahhhh.......the semi-annual thread about provider rates.......right on time!!

here's a 214-post thread from 2019......"the more things change.........."

https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/108293-300-is-the-new-norm/

 

 

Edited May 21, 2023 by azdr0710

[+ Coolwave35]

This is why there is Bloomingdales and Wal Mart. Look in the windows at bloomies then go be happy with your discounts at Walmart. 

[coriolis888]

29 minutes ago, cany10011 said:

Pre-pandemic, I used to balk at 300. It is high, but this is the market right now in NYC. A lot are asking for more in the 500 or 600 range. I think RM not posting rates is making it more of a sliding scale and if the provider knows where you live, he may price his services accordingly. I only pay that much for one of the my regulars as he is very generous with his time and we have really good chemistry. If he were an unknown, I'd say he would be out of his mind for asking that rate. In most places in Europe, you can get stellar service for 200 euros and an overnight for 500 to 600. 

 

58 minutes ago, Milo Janus said:

If you're a lawyer or a Doctor, I'm sure $400 is not a problem.  But for average Joes, this is simply highway robbery!!  There has to be a line of demarcation when enough is enough, and I say that is $300.  I get the old supply and demand side of economics, but there must be common sense.  It's just buggery, not creating new art or writing a play.  My solution (tongue and cheek, so to speak) is that customers form a union and demand LOWER fees, or we go on strike!

But seriously, guys, $300 is more than enough.

"$400 is TOO MUCH"

It depends.

If the escort keeps his word and performs as agreed, the price is okay. 

However, too many providers spend time on their telephone while with a client. 

Many providers cannot get hard because they just finished with a previous client prior to meeting the current client.  That situation is a disservice to the client.  

Many providers use stolen photos or use old photos that do not show the way the provider looks currently.  In that case, I think the provider is charging too much.  

Many providers short the time they agreed with a client.  One hour is sixty minutes, not twenty or thirty minutes.  However, time shortages happen often without an adjustment of the fee.

Many clients insist on being paid upon arrival.  When that happens, the provider has very little incentive to keep the agreement with the client.  The provider has his money and the client is at the will of the provider whether the contracted services with be met as agreed. 

So, is $400 too much?  It depends on the above and other facts and circumstances not covered above.   

 

[+ Coolwave35]

1 minute ago, coriolis888 said:

 

"$400 is TOO MUCH"

It depends.

If the escort keeps his word and performs as agreed, the price is okay. 

However, too many providers spend time on their telephone while with a client. 

Many providers cannot get hard because they just finished with a previous client prior to meeting the current client.  That situation is a disservice to the client.  

Many providers use stolen photos or use old photos that do not show the way the provider looks currently.  In that case, I think the provider is charging too much.  

Many providers short the time they agreed with a client.  One hour is sixty minutes, not twenty or thirty minutes.  However, time shortages happen often without an adjustment of the fee.

Many clients insist on being paid upon arrival.  When that happens, the provider has very little incentive to keep the agreement with the client.  The provider has his money and the client is at the will of the provider whether the contracted services with be met as agreed. 

So, is $400 too much?  It depends on the above and other facts and circumstances not covered above.   

 

If you pay $400+ for an hour, I can assure you that 95% of the time you aren’t dealing with all the bullshit you mentioned. What you’ve written about sounds like a $250 an hour provider to me which is why you get what you pay for. 

[guru68]

It's worth it if it's worth it to the client - whatever the price is.

[coriolis888]

6 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said:

If you pay $400+ for an hour, I can assure you that 95% of the time you aren’t dealing with all the bullshit you mentioned. What you’ve written about sounds like a $250 an hour provider to me which is why you get what you pay for. 

[BaronArtz]

May I say that I have, in 2023, very satisfying erotic and sexual encounters with guys in NYC in the $200-300 range.  

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Milo Janus said:

If you're a lawyer or a Doctor, I'm sure $400 is not a problem.  But for average Joes, this is simply highway robbery!!  There has to be a line of demarcation when enough is enough, and I say that is $300.  I get the old supply and demand side of economics, but there must be common sense.  It's just buggery, not creating new art or writing a play.  My solution (tongue and cheek, so to speak) is that customers form a union and demand LOWER fees, or we go on strike!

But seriously, guys, $300 is more than enough.

If your choice is not to pay that go ahead and stick to your price. 

Btw where do you live?

 

[marylander1940]

50 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said:

This is why there is Bloomingdales and Wal Mart. Look in the windows at bloomies then go be happy with your discounts at Walmart. 

or he could try to get a diamond in the rough from craigslist... wait that doesn't exist anymore because of crime, right? So many muggings! 

[Milo Janus]

14 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

If your choice is not to pay that go ahead and stick to your price. 

Btw where do you live?

 

San Francisco

[Wanderoz]

1 hour ago, Coolwave35 said:

This is why there is Bloomingdales and Wal Mart. Look in the windows at bloomies then go be happy with your discounts at Walmart. 

But look at the selection now.  Bloomingdale's prices on Walmart offerings. 
InstaGram & Grindr are disrupting the market. 

[BuffaloKyle]

[marylander1940]

45 minutes ago, Milo Janus said:

San Francisco

I'm sure you have all different prices and kinds of me in that huge market.

[guru68]

[ChasingGirth]

2 hours ago, Cliff said:

Post 4 of a potential 6.37 kajillion replies to the OP…

Here’s what we know, guys: Escorts can charge whatever they want. We, the clients, can pay that rate or find lesser-priced escorts. Or not hire at all, and simply date our dominant hand. It’s that simple. There is no union to strike against, no Groupon deals, not even a well-endowed (ha ha) support group to shoulder the myriad emotional turmoil this financial burden may inflict upon us. Do I think $400 is a lot of money for an hour of shenanigans? Fuck yeah!  However, I prefer to look at it this way: If a hot, hunky, hairy, hung provider charges me $400 to let me have my way my him and in doing so gives me an inarguably unforgettable experience, I’m going to practically force that $400 on him and feel like my cash was well spent. And the day that splendid feeling evaporates is the day I stop hiring. Until then, I’ll continue to open my checkbook (and all of my orifices) and have the fucking time of my life. Cheers, my friends! 

Love this 🙌🏼😂🙌🏼

[Enronnja]

I wholeheartedly agree. 400 is over the top, it's not like buttholes are scarce. What providers have to understand too is that, just as inflation is affecting their daily living, it's also hitting us, clients, hard, too. Which would you rather, 300 or none at all? Instead of demanding more, you could have more clients at 300. Yeah, I know, hosting, prepping for the meeting. But, if you stay a week in a city at an AirBnB and average 3 clients a day that's 4,500 per week at 300. On top of the benefit of building your reputation, it's a win-win for the provider.

Many of us are not rich like Mr. Thiel who can make you a sugar baby. We work long 9 to 5 jobs and have expenses, too. There is a provider who quoted me 400, I was more than ready to pay 300. But immediately moved on; it's a good thing I did. I went to my local bathhouse and got the same release just for the entrance price of $30 and was able to blow a couple of loads. The guy was sexy af, height was 6' 5', built, with a bubble butt to die for. Made me put things into perspective that I really going to blow 400 just because I wanted to scratch an itch.

Yes, I have paid 400 and even 800 in the past and regretted it. 400 was limp, no penetration, no kissing, just body contact, and my review rightfully put them out of business. 800, paid for the air ticket and service and although we did everything agreed, it felt rushed and used my toilet to douche.

So, why is this happening? Many factors which include the rise of OF, many have left the business for that, making quality providers more in demand. The pandemic I also believe hit the business hard and a lot left the industry. With so many tech companies laying off those rich tech workers, that money that used to come from tech-rich coastal cities is not there anymore. Rents have shot up also in these major metro too and just the expense of traveling I understand. These circumstances drive providers to push up their prices. But it's a catch-22, because what it ultimately means is a lot of us are less willing to pay. I see it just in my own savings.

I am planning to visit NY this summer and I have to admit, if I get quoted the 400 or more, I will just continue to pass. I've not been with a provider since November. I've supplemented this with my right hand and local bate club. Yesterday was my first time back at the local bathhouse since 2019 and surprisingly wasn't too bad. I plan to make it a regular visit every few months.

[bretts2002]

It’s not so much the pricing that has kept me from hiring.  I just can’t seem to find anyone that greatly interests me.

[Moke]

I get the supply/demand arguments. I also agree that 400 is more than i would ever spend. 
 

my 2 cents:  if you are passing for price, let the provider know VERY POLITELY why, so they know. Just a quick “sorry, too high” without haggling. So they know they lost your business. 

[jeezifonly]

There’s not a cabal of men-for-hire around the globe who, in a glamorous, secure location, set escort rates over cigars and brandy, the way a barrel of crude oil is priced.

An escort without regulars asks for the maximum the market will bear. A drop in client bookings can help them reassess their strategy. @Moke is correct - If it’s what’s preventing you from booking a meeting, tell them, and move on. 

[IamAdamRose]

We’re in a recession & in expensive living times….. if you dont wanna pay the rate, there is plenty of other options or there is always the hookup apps where you can find it for free or go to a sex club

 

Seriously, every provider has a set rate & client has to respect that, if you dont like it do what I mentioned above, its that simple

 

Edited May 22, 2023 by IamAdamRose

[acks0104]

Look at escorts the same way you look at a night out of entertainment, whether that's a movie or a nice meal. There are going to be cheap options and there are going to be expensive options, but you don't get to go to a restaurant and complain to them that they're charging too much for their meals. You know what you can do? Move on and find a different restaurant or form of entertainment. 

A few too many men create stress and drama for themselves over issues they can actually do something about, which is to just move on instead of complain about escorts valuing their time and services at a specific rate.