rojjodc Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I sometimes get uncomfortable if a provider does that because it reminds me of the old personal ad days, but maybe I am overreacting. Thoughts? Example that probably okay but seems to be yelling or emphatic about it: RippedMuscle on Rent.Men RENT.MEN View my profile on Rent.Men But I am not sure about this.... DaddyPhoenixXXX on Rent.Men RENT.MEN View my profile on Rent.Men + Vegas_Millennial and MikeBiDude 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, rojjodc said: I sometimes get uncomfortable if a provider does that because it reminds me of the old personal ad days, but maybe I am overreacting. Thoughts? Example that probably okay but seems to be yelling or emphatic about it: RippedMuscle on Rent.Men RENT.MEN View my profile on Rent.Men But I am not sure about this.... DaddyPhoenixXXX on Rent.Men RENT.MEN View my profile on Rent.Men Both of these ads are very well written (and hot!🔥). The first says no drugs, and the second says only natural born men. Both are meant to not waste time of potential clients and the escort by those who want to do drugs or those who don't have a penis. 🍆 It's similar to listing top only or bottom only in the ad. Why waste everyone's time if the provider can't give you want you want? ⏰ I did have one escort tell me before our meeting that his pet peeve was long toenails. 🦶 I was sure to trim mine the morning of our meeting. That pet peeve was best left out of his ad (which it was) and communicated directly. My personal pet peeve is trigger warnings. ⚠️ ⚠️ We have a young guy at work who during every meeting says either "trigger warning" or "sensitive topic" or "safe place" before he asks any question. Questions can be as mundane as "who is driving to the meeting tomorrow", but he always precedes them with a warning. It's so ridiculous it's funny. 😆 Edited April 17, 2023 by Vegas777 Added emojis to lighten the tone and to cater my response to a younger audience who are accustomed to "trigger warnings". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marylander1940 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Vegas777 said: Both of these ads are very well written. The first says no drugs, and the second says only natural born men. Both are meant to not waste time of potential clients and the escort by those who want to do drugs or those who don't have a penis. 🍆 It's similar to listing top only or bottom only in the ad. Why waste everyone's time if the provider can't give you want you want? ⏰ I did have one escort tell me before our meeting that his pet peeve was long toenails. 🦶 I was sure to trim mine the morning of our meeting. That pet peeve was best left out of his ad (which it was) and communicated directly. My personal pet peeve is trigger warnings. ⚠️ We have a young guy at work who during every meeting says either "trigger warning" or "sensitive topic" or "safe place" before he asks any question. Questions can be as mundane as "who is driving to the meeting tomorrow", but he always precedes them with a warning. It's so ridiculous it's funny. 😆 you'd be amazed all the times an escort listed himself as a top and SO many guys in this forum saying "oh, why doesn't he bottom", or escorts who write in the ad "I only bottom for clients" and SO many on here saying "I want him to top me". I guess that young man is a millennial... watch your mouth in front of him or he'll sue you, seems to be too sensitive. He should watch Bill Mahr but I'm sure he already cancelled him. Back to subject I don't mind "preferences", but I certainly dislike and won't hire providers who claim they won't see clients of X, Y or Z ethnic groups. Funny yesterday I said the exact phrase... Is NOT accepting clients who do PNP a good choice by some escorts? + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie21 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Definitely no drugs. Definitely be clean (as in showered). These things aren’t unusual or especially controversial. + Vegas_Millennial, marylander1940, NickInAtlanta and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 I don't think stating "no drugs" is the same as expressing a pet peeve. I think of a pet peeve is something that annoys you that might not annoy a lot of other people. Someone expressing a desire to not be around people who are under the influence of something is just setting a limit or condition. As to the second ad, it sounds like he wants to be fucked all night long with the guy cumming inside of him repeatedly. Makes sense that he only wants clients who were born male if that's the kind of experience he has to offer. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Naturally born men? So he is not willing to see anyone delivered by c-section? Strange restriction.... 🙃 + Vegas_Millennial and mike carey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuriousByNature Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 3 hours ago, arnemgreeves said: How does he know who is a "natural born man" or not? Plenty of trans men look superficially like cis men. Same as plenty of trans women look and act like cis women. If they need to be genetically male, maybe he runs a blood test and searches for the Y chromosome... lol + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 16 hours ago, CuriousByNature said: Naturally born men? So he is not willing to see anyone delivered by c-section? Strange restriction.... 🙃 Perhaps he meant naturally born citizens … CuriousByNature and + Vegas_Millennial 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, DWnyc said: Perhaps he meant naturally born citizens … I think citizen may be another sensitive topic, 😂 CuriousByNature and DWnyc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Once hung out with a provider who was ex army. we had a nice chat about his political views with mutual consent … he then said he would not on principle see clients who were citizens of (the people’s Republic of) China. I rolled my eyes and said “if you don’t want to see Asian clients why not just say that …” He then said, no, given his ex army status and views on them as our #1 Enemy it was a point of principle and then went on to list all the other countries in Asia and said he would be fine with citizens from there. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfer Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, DWnyc said: given his ex army status and views on them as our #1 Enemy it was a point of principle and then went on to list all the other countries in Asia and said he would be fine with citizens from there. I would understand this if one of the heads of state, who are actually responsible for the country's action, came knocking to hire him that he'd refuse on principal. But to throw out a whole nation's citizens, implying they all fully agree with (or have any influence over) the nation's policies... Seems a bit uninformed. Edited April 19, 2023 by Wolfer DWnyc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MscleLovr Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 I’m not bothered about “pet peeves” as even the nicest guys seem to have some. And I prefer to know a guy’s likes and dislikes upfront: the info helps me choose someone compatible. MikeBiDude, + Vegas_Millennial and DWnyc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ robear Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 In the case of DaddyPhoenixXXX, one has to wonder why take the bandwidth to express that particular restriction? Gay- or bi-identified transmen make up the tiniest of demographics. Of that tiny subset, how many seek to hire providers? How likely is it that a transman would ever approach him as a potential client? There may be a backstory here that we don't know of course. Perhaps some encounter with a man without a penis so traumatized the provider that he feels compelled to shout to the universe, never again! But as has often been discussed in these pages, we all have preferences and biases, both providers and clients, and there are kind and respectful ways of honoring them. They don't have a to be explicitly expressed as a condition of engagement. DWnyc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 I really don't understand the confusion regarding DaddyPhoenixXXX. His ad specifically states he wants to be bred all night long. Even if a trans man has had bottom surgery, he still cannot ejaculate seminal fluid out of his penis. So his request for "natural born men" makes sense. If you want to criticize him for attempting to monetize his sex life (a discussion that's been had on more than one thread here recently), that's valid. You could argue that he shouldn't be looking for a certain type of sexual experience as an escort and it shouldn't matter to him whether the top can ejaculate or, for that matter, whether someone even wants to top him. But he's far from the only escort who markets himself as offering a specific type of experience. I just don't see the leap from someone basically marketing himself as a pig bottom to making him out to be anti-trans. He may have friends who are trans but just isn't into getting fucked by them because he wants his ass to leak cum after an encounter ends. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 Revisiting the OP and pondering a little, I have to say I agree the natural born male preference is quite a lot more than a “pet peeve”. If it’s such a problem for him he could figure it out discretely when confirming appointments in the way those requesting photographs do. And the experience he is offering surely rules out the few in that demographic that might approach him without reading between the lines. As @robear says above it’s a tiny demographic and the message is much louder than it needs to be. Stating it so boldly is unnecessarily hostile to that demographic (unless that was the intent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 I wish more escorts were as up front in their advertisements as the two in the original post 14 minutes ago, DWnyc said: Revisiting the OP and pondering a little, I have to say I agree the natural born male preference is quite a lot more than a “pet peeve”. If it’s such a problem for him he could figure it out discretely when confirming appointments in the way those requesting photographs do. And the experience he is offering surely rules out the few in that demographic that might approach him without reading between the lines. As @robear says above it’s a tiny demographic and the message is much louder than it needs to be. Stating it so boldly is unnecessarily hostile to that demographic (unless that was the intent). I wish more men for rent were as up front as the two men in the original post. Time is money, and their clarity saves a lot of time both for them and for potential clients who have different expectations than what the men offer. MikeBiDude, + APPLE1 and justanoldguy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojjodc Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 I actually don't have an issue with providers saying that they don't do drugs. But a provider statement about naturally born men just comes across as negative or a turn-off given the current anti-trans environment going on today that borders on hysteria to me. Of course, I am not sure why this statement would be made, but I wonder how many transmen would be answering his ad anyway. It just reminds me bad occurrences of US history with regards to race and gays, but I don't think we need to go into it any further here. + robear, DWnyc and Marc in Calif 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) Speaking of sensitive... A provider should disclose if he has sensitive nipples. What a turn on that would be to know! ... Unless he also lists nipple play as a pet peave due to the sensitivity Edited April 19, 2023 by Vegas777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianboyph Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 I think my only pet peeve is the flakiness and games that come with this. mike carey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWnyc Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Vegas777 said: I wish more escorts were as up front in their advertisements as the two in the original post I wish more men for rent were as up front as the two men in the original post. Time is money, and their clarity saves a lot of time both for them and for potential clients who have different expectations than what the men offer. Well these exclusionary ”peeves” could also be worth listing so those who find what is listed distasteful have the choice to avoid the provider. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ APPLE1 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 I often read criticisms of providers on here for failure of implied specific performance (ie. didn't feel like we were a match, seemed robotic and just going through the motions, couldn't get rock hard, didn't make me feel like he desired me, etc). When a provider says up front he only sees X, or won't see Y, aren't they really just telling us directly they can't give a good performance to X? Would it be better to lie and say they can perform well, or go into a long explanation of 'I am most attracted to X, so if you are Y, I can go through the motions because you paid me.' Along the same lines, should it be the same level of criticism expressed in this topic for a provider who says he's gay, not bi, and therefore doesn't see women? Full disclosure, I have never slept with a woman and never even seen pussy in real life! I don't consider myself sexist though. I mean some of my closest family has even married women. Hell, half of my parents are female! 😉 Walt and + Vegas_Millennial 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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