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On 4/1/2023 at 12:41 AM, Vulgarii said:

It's fun encountering protective clients looking for budget prostitution, and it's more fun making fun of them when they try to haggle.

Clients are not obligated to make appointments and pay unilaterally determined rates just because a provider wants them to. It’s a mutually beneficial arrangement, mutually agreed.

Providers can have all the fun in the world making fun of prospective clients if they feel they have the means. But that time and energy might be better spent thinking up strategies to be more responsive to market forces. 

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6 hours ago, DWnyc said:

Clients are not obligated to make appointments and pay unilaterally determined rates just because a provider wants them to. It’s a mutually beneficial arrangement, mutually agreed.

Providers can have all the fun in the world making fun of prospective clients if they feel they have the means. But that time and energy might be better spent thinking up strategies to be more responsive to market forces. 

Yeah.

Clients should also be allowed to make fun of cheap prospective clients 😜 

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On 3/31/2023 at 9:26 PM, DWnyc said:

The penny pinchers as you refer to them finance the providers lives. They get tired of it? Let them Flfind people who can fund their expectations, unrealistic and grossly offensive as they may be.

I actually look at it completely in the reverse. 

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1 hour ago, omgazn said:

You mention you are finding a hard time with hotels. If you are staying in hotel frequently, then I sign up for those reward cards and membership. They often have deals/promotion that help reduce the cost.

I’m pretty sure he has done that already. 

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I will pay up to $300 max.  But I have found that over $200 what you are paying for is more the body than the experience.  You can't put a price on the connection you might or might no make.  The body will only get you so far.  Hiring can be of a ,whim and I will take the first guy available at whatever or sometimes I will see if several guys are available and go with the cheapest.  But I never haggle with a guy over his rate, and really don't like i if I say your are too high and he offers a lower rate.  I fear he will try to give less of him self, a discounted service for a lower rate.  

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On 3/31/2023 at 12:41 PM, tassojunior said:

fwiw - i'm not a provider but have them stay long-term often. 

i have 2 provider friends very similar in age, looks, what they do etc. one only advertises on RM and he is a porn star. the other only advertises on rentmasseur. the masseur actually sets a table up but he does all sexually just like the other. his base fee is $150 while the others' is $300. of course he gets more clients most of whom want "upgrades". from knowing their work for a month or two at a time, it's a toss-up who makes the most. the "masseur" has more clients, the RM gets bigger tips now. Both get many repeats. .But for pricing if RM doesn't draw, maybe rentmasseur will. it's like becoming a "discount" airline that upcharges for everything.

In DC there's a nice but often cheap small hotel (Embassy Inn) with no desk on 16th around R St that's very nice and surrounded by a lot of clients. Several providers use it. The Windsor Inn a block up is cheaper and nicer but has a desk for some rooms.

 

For real? In call masseurs seem to be always $200-$250 on RM.

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I’m amused over the degree of indignation that some escorts have over customers who ask for a discount. I wonder how many of these same guys are quick to leave early and cheat clients out of the last 20-30 minutes.

In general I would only ask for a discount if I’m bundling it with additional hours. Guys who leave    a few microseconds after I’ve come is a bit of a pet peeve. Extra brownie points for those who stay for a joint shower which should be a given

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4 hours ago, dbar123 said:

I’m amused over the degree of indignation that some escorts have over customers who ask for a discount. I wonder how many of these same guys are quick to leave early and cheat clients out of the last 20-30 minutes.

Don’t you realize? A provider is entitled to that! We clients should understand our place. We should be giddy to pay them for as little possible done! Smallest bang for our buck!

(Meant with all musterable snark)

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19 hours ago, dbar123 said:

I’m amused over the degree of indignation that some escorts have over customers who ask for a discount. I wonder how many of these same guys are quick to leave early and cheat clients out of the last 20-30 minutes.

This so much. In the last few years, I've only had exactly one provider give me the full hour (down to the minute, I noticed he had a clock next to his bed as I was leaving). He filled the remaining post sex time with cuddles, kisses and light conversation. 

"the session ends when the client cums" is something I've heard too many times not to irk me. Just recently I was asked to leave after 30 minutes, but still required to pay for the full hour. 

Others have filled the time by allowing me to take a shower... Completely alone. Those were expensive showers I could have taken at home.

18 hours ago, Jaroslav said:

Don’t you realize? A provider is entitled to that! We clients should understand our place. We should be giddy to pay them for as little possible done! Smallest bang for our buck!

(Meant with all musterable snark)

Honestly, you may be joking but I've really felt his attitude sometimes. And I think there are actually quite a number of clients who are so giddy just to be in the room with them these clients don't mind at all they're bring taken advantage of. Sorry I'm in a bit of mood today hahaha 😅

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Do you guys have a plan for 60 minutes or do you expect the escort to entertain you for 60 minutes without expressing what you want? 
 

When I’m with an escort for an hour, I spend the first 15 minutes asking about past clients searching for inspiration and explaining what I’d like to do. I love to hear about what they’ve done with other men and it revs me up. Then I move to 15 to 20 minutes of shirtless foreplay. I loooovvvveeeee to rub cock and ass through pants while making out. 
 

Then there’s getting down to the real fun for 20 minutes then a 10 minute recap and I’m satisfied. I couldn’t imagine not filling an hour when I’m paying for someone to indulge what I want.  I’m sorry you guys haven’t felt like you got your moneys worth before. 
 

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2 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

Do you guys have a plan for 60 minutes or do you expect the escort to entertain you for 60 minutes without expressing what you want? 

Yes I have a plan and I confirm all the details before agreeing to meet up. I ask the provider upfront if everything what I'm asking is something he can provide. Yet I've had the experience that providers will default to a preset  pattern, as if they've never read my texts, and try to get me off as fast as possible, even when I tell them to slow down or when I try to draw out the foreplay. 

Also, when I pay any other professional I do so because I trust their expertise and skill to lead for the duration of the agreed upon time (whether it be a therapist, coach,...). Why would I not be able to expect the same of escorts? I feel like you're  intent on putting the fault on the clients. Some providers just take advantage, it happens (and sadly a lot, in my experience).

How do you keep track of time during a session? 

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I once had a provider who himself finished a little early in the session. I don’t need or even want providers to finish and I always assumed they preferred it that way (ie save themselves for the next client).

He then said he was no good after that, and things became very awkward … he suggested we end and he’d make up the time (prepaid) in a future booking.  It was early in my hiring days and I didn’t know better and reassured him it was ok, I was actually flattered, it was hot watching him get excited etc … I guess I was the one giving him the BFE …

 

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8 hours ago, Wolfer said:

Why would I not be able to expect the same of escorts? 

How do you keep track of time during a session? 

Because what gets you off is different from what gets me off and what gets the man or woman reading this off is different than both of us. If I don’t tell a provider what I want I have to settle for what he’s offering, and that in my experience leads to bad experiences.  Providers have a menu of services and I choose what I want, and for how long I want it.  If a provider forgets what I’ve asked for or how I like something I remind them. 

When I hook up privately from grindr, if the dude can’t tell me what they’re enjoying and ask for what they want, I don’t want to spend an hour with them trying to guess either it’s torture. 

For your second question, with a clock. 

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